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Interesting to se there is now a subreddit for exiting the red pill. Although Reddit played a huge part in radicalizing these dudes too.
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Some of the stories here are bonkers. But you can see step by step testimonials of how these dudes were drawn in, and how it’s ruining their lives overall. They wasting money, getting finessed, getting lonelier, angrier and more isolated…and getting no yambs. Like you said, there comes a time where there will be a social cost for this type of f-erry….and they are trying to find a way out. Especially since “the manosphere” is dying now.
And yeah, Writing it off as “ho-hum” , “boys will be boys” or “overhyped” is really missing the mark. And idk why osh kosh bosh is eager to do that, like we all don’t know why these boys feel this way, and why the people taking advantage of them…are doing it in a unique way that needs to be addressed. And there has to be some accountability. Plus, nobody was even talking about “censorship”. Idk how that talking point even comes up.
my argument is more nuanced than than "boys will be boys"
my point is people need to be clear eyed about the appeal of this content.
it AUTHETICALLY appealing, it's not manufactured by evil social media companies, or right wing billionaires.
it spreads on social media because the content is VERY engaging and generates TONS of clicks. because there is a big audience of people who love to watch and hate watch this content.
and it just sounds like a giant cope when people spin stories about evil right wing billionaires or uniquely toxic male influences corrupting the youth...imo none of that is new.
Young men have ALWAYS enjoyed misogynistic male power fantasy content.
I think the main difference today, is a larger portion of men aren't out growing that content.
and they aren't growing out of that content because there have been very big and very real changes in our social order that disproportionally impact men.
and men, especially less successful lower status males are naturally going to be drawn to reactionary media content.
That is the problem that needs to be addressed, if people want reduce the appeal of this content.
imo the other stuff is just not that important.