Rap About Nothing: Hip Hop Chat Thread

[VARNELL HILL]

Everyone went Gold/Platinum back then.

Naughty By Nature

EPMD

Redman

Keith Murray

That's off the top of my head...i know im leaving out many. 

2Pac was also a "NY dude" during his first 2 albums...both platinum. 

 

[Maximus Meridius]

i tried doing my due dilligence getting into gangstarr and illmatic and **** and i wasnt feeling it

hov cam mase puff x nore had their share of tough beats

i dont think all 90's rap is dust

the consumer felt the same way bc until wu and bad boy were ny rappers really selling like that? especially in comparison to the West who had pretty much pop stars (as far as their success) w snoop dre pac

Aight bruh just leave it at that.


NY _'s sold records. Run DMC was the first hip hop anything to go platinum.


Wu Tang sound was grimey as hell and they sold. DMX sound was dark and grimey and sold damn near as much as Bad Boy.


This whole NY sound is dusty is some new **** that a few kids say cuz it's not what they used to. People ain't say that back then. They was buying the records, these records was all over the radio.

 

[law3001]

ATCQ beats were far from boom bap
Same with Pete Rock

 

[Maximus Meridius]

ATCQ beats were far from boom bap
Same with Pete Rock

Exactly. Same dudes that swear Kanye is a God know nothing about where his sound came from.

 

[law3001]

Big daddy kane didnt make Boom bap
Busta Rhymes didn't make boom bap
Rza was doing wild **** with his production to call it just booom bap os ignorant and clerly shows you don't listen to the music

The bomb squad was boom bap?
Eric Sermon?

 

[law3001]

Also my mans said Gangstarr and illmatic like that was it

 

[tay1]

Also my mans said Gangstarr and illmatic like that was it

Was the gucci face in your avy the same face you made when you read that he said that?

 

[6pac]

 

[Hahahaha]

YO WHAT UP NAWGHTY!!!!!!!!!!



This thread is in shambles though. Wayne and T Pain with classics, son said Carter 1-3 changed rap and were all classics. Hahahahaha, I hope some of y'all don't have kids.

T Pain got some classic singles and made an impact but money has ZERO classics. ZERO.

Wayne, is mentally slow and his bars are trash for 50% of the time. FOH

Someone brought up Lil Jon and that's an interesting one because Lil Jon really pushed a new sound and damn near his whole album was hard every time. I don't think he has a classic though but he got two albums that are close. Damn he got joints.

 

[Magic33]

Straight from LA's mouth, he alluded to it when he was on Elliott Wilson's Rap Radar podcast awhile back. Real ATL Freanik type **** back then lol talking about how they hired mostly girls to be around and what not, and he said it playfully but you can kind of get the sentiment that he was deadass serious lol

And the rumors of him with a young usher have been pretty persistent for awhile now.

I didn't hear any of this on a Rap Radar pod

Just look at LA Reid...

Look at his face.

Him, Steve Stoute, all them ****** are playing for the other side

No facial hair

Don't even get me started on jay "the snake" z snakish ways

You have a Jay-Z name detector?

Everyone went Gold/Platinum back then.

Naughty By Nature
EPMD
Redman
Keith Murray

That's off the top of my head...i know im leaving out many. 

2Pac was also a "NY dude" during his first 2 albums...both platinum. 

Naw, everything wasn't going gold or platinum. Far from it. Stuff like DITC, Royal Flush, Mic Geronimo, Big L, McGruff wasn't going gold. It's why a lot of people only had one or two albums.

You just typed a bunch of nothing. Just cuz you was around during the Temptations era don't mean you right. People was definitely calling those albums classics and it take no 10-20 years.

No, you're just debating something you don't know about as usual.

 

[Magic33]

yeah from the south and the west. definitely a lot of classic ahead of its time music from those regions. and coincidentally where is everyone u just named from [emoji]128064[/emoji]

most NY 90's beats were trash until puff came thru and started putting actual musicality and switch ups on top of the samples it instead of letting a loop and a drum break play for 4 minutes

i'd venture to say a lot of the usual suspects that frequent these conversations here would say that 3 6, no limit and cash money werent classic or timeless music because of the subject matter and lack of lyricism *that SOME of the ****** in these camps possessed* [emoji]129300[/emoji]

thats why i said until puff came along which would have been 95-96 when he really started getting in his bag

after that he raised the stakes as far as NY rappers radio and club potential

ofc just my take i wasnt around to witness the forgotten gems that history didnt glamorize

feel free to post some crazy pre 95-96 NY beats i like being proved wrong and put on to new music

i tried doing my due dilligence getting into gangstarr and illmatic and **** and i wasnt feeling it

hov cam mase puff x nore had their share of tough beats

i dont think all 90's rap is dust

the consumer felt the same way bc until wu and bad boy were ny rappers really selling like that? especially in comparison to the West who had pretty much pop stars (as far as their success) w snoop dre pac

A lot of misinformation and lack of knowledge in this

I'm not even going to discuss your taste in music.

But who educates you dudes on rap? Some of this stuff you dudes seem to pull out of your ***.

 

[kingfoamnyc]

yeah from the south and the west. definitely a lot of classic ahead of its time music from those regions. and coincidentally where is everyone u just named from [emoji]128064[/emoji]

most NY 90's beats were trash until puff came thru and started putting actual musicality and switch ups on top of the samples it instead of letting a loop and a drum break play for 4 minutes

i'd venture to say a lot of the usual suspects that frequent these conversations here would say that 3 6, no limit and cash money werent classic or timeless music because of the subject matter and lack of lyricism *that SOME of the ****** in these camps possessed* [emoji]129300[/emoji]

Who's alt account is this ?

 

[LebronHasMoreFinalsMVPs]

Cant see akademiks doing the show past june unless that bag is crazy.

 

[kevlar]

Who's alt account is this ?

Pretty sure it's the cat who posted the pic of you & your daughter

 

[kingfoamnyc]

Pretty sure it's the cat who posted the pic of you & your daughter

Makes way too much sense.

 

[a blinkin]

6 minutes in.

 

[Narcissist]

Joe droppin that ether on LA Reid 

 

[wavycrocket]

Budden not bad today. I liked how he touched on the "black rockstar" **** a Lil bit. There's a lot that goes into that.

 

[Maximus Meridius]

LA Reid just got accused of harassment. Surprisingly it ain't a dude.

Pretty sure it's the cat who posted the pic of you & your daughter

Makes way too much sense.

 

[Magic33]

You could tell how bad LA was when he gave Rick Ross a bag

Rick Ross was Fat Joe and Game status. He could get by and be very viable with his friends in the industry.

His record sales weren't equaling what is a major label artist today, especially if they don't want a 360. It's not even like Ross was once a big selling artist.

I like Ross' album, but he released a straight hip hop album with no radio appeal on a major.

LA Reid was never hip hop and knew about it. He just got lucky and had people around him that brought him Outkast and Rihanna

 

[wavycrocket]

Ross album did a 105k first week.

It actually surpassed expectations sales wise.

 

[firstclass]

Joe is not playing

 

[trynafeelmink]

Complex is absolutely gonna end up firing Joe if he keeps going at this rate of highlighting the figureheads of the music industry & talking about things that really go down. He keeps saying that he doesn't have to play those games at complex, as if complex isn't 100% owned by big media corporations. Verizon & Hearst own Complex, Joe could talk about any rapper he wants, some managers, maybe even some flack at label heads

but when your starting to call out the LA Reid's & the Doug Morris types & highlighting some of their behind the scenes dealings, you can guarantee that all it takes is a couple of calls and Joe might be seeing a release. Guts like LA, Doug, Lyor etc etc play the game & by laying the game they have all made friends with incredibly powerful media figures. I don't think Joe is gonna continue down this road for too much longer.

 

[Magic33]

LA might be done as a head of a major label. At this point the labels need to start bringing in new talent, and put the dinosaurs out to pasture who are used to operating the way things used to be. I couldn't sign artist today, so how could a 60 year old who was never involved in hip hop culture. People before weren't much older than the artist they were signing.

Ross album did a 105k first week.

It actually surpassed expectations sales wise.

Yeah, but I'm sure Ross doesn't have a 360

You're basically signing a artist to lose money on

Ross isn't a cheap artist. It's not like you're getting someone like Krit or Cole who can produce his own stuff. You have someone who acts like a major artist that isn't.

Ross is going to expect certain entitlements, because he looks at himself as a bigger artist than he is.

It's why Def Jam was letting him walk.

 

[P C H]

Joe said exactly what I was saying about LA. The sexual harrassment stuff has been there for years.