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Fans Are Spoofing Spotify With "Fake Plays," And That's A Problem For Music Charts

The spoofing could erode the veracity of widely respected Billboard chart metrics, especially since the fan campaigns appear to be getting more sophisticated.

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Blake Montgomery
BuzzFeed News Reporter

Posted on September 13, 2018, at 2:00 p.m. ET

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The Billboard charts have long been the gold standard by which musicians measure their success, but as recent tantrums by the likes of Nicki Minaj have highlighted, the rising influence of streaming services is upending that model — and giving die-hard fans a way to manipulate the data.

A recent release by the Korean pop group BTS prompted its superfandom, millions strong across the globe, to do just that by launching a sophisticated campaign to make sure the boy band reached No. 1.

The strategy employed by the so-called BTS Army went largely like this: Fans in the US created accounts on music streaming services to play BTS’s music and distributed the account logins to fans in other countries via Twitter, email, or the instant messaging platform Slack. The recipients then streamed BTS’s music continuously, often on multiple devices and sometimes with a virtual private network (VPN), which can fake, or “spoof,” locations by rerouting a user’s traffic through several different servers across the world. Some fans will even organize donation drives so other fans can pay for premium streaming accounts.

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“Superfans of pop acts have long been doing this sort of thing,” said Mark Mulligan, managing director of the digital media analysis company MIDIA Research. “But if a superfan has decided to listen nonstop to a track, is that fake? If so, how many times do they have to listen to a track continuously before it is deemed ‘fake’?”

One BTS fan group claimed it distributed more than 1,000 Spotify logins, all to make it appear as though more people in the US were streaming BTS’s music and nudge their album Love Yourself: Tear up the Spotify chart, which in turn factors into Billboard’s metrics.


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Billboard began incorporating streaming music into chart rankings in 2012 and announced in May that it had finalized changes to how streams are weighted for the Hot 100 (for singles) and Billboard 200 (albums). For streams on a paid service like Spotify Premium or Apple Music, about 1,250 song plays equal one album sale, but on free services, it typically takes around 3,750 streams.

The band reached its self-proclaimed chart-topping goal in May when Love Yourself: Teardebuted at No. 1 on the Hot 200. Love Yourself: Answer did the same in September.

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kat@rigagirls

https://twitter.com/rigagirls/status/998445147879755776

so let me summarize everything@BTS_twt fans accused kris fans of using bots, vpns bc they're salty he's #1 on itunes

meanwhile their fanbase is creating us spotify accts for non us fans, using bots to stream on yt (EXPOSEDT BY YT) and offering to pay for people to buy the song

2:07 AM - May 21, 2018
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While manipulating streaming plays is becoming a more widely used tactic, it’s unclear just how much of an impact it can have on Drake-level artists. But even if it’s just a drop in the bucket, the fraud could erode the veracity of the widely respected Billboard chart metrics, especially since the fan campaigns appear to be getting more sophisticated. Harry Styles fans weaponized Tumblr accounts and VPNs to promote his first solo single and album in 2017, but BTS fans took the blueprint further, creating tests for wannabe helpers to verify their devotion.

It’s not just the US, either: Rampant allegations of chart manipulation in South Korea recently triggered an investigation by the Ministry of Culture, Sports and Tourism.

After BuzzFeed News reached out to several people about the tactics, one tweet warning the community not to speak to this reporter racked up more than 8,000 retweets, another over 2,000.


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Fans also deleted tweets about sharing Spotify accounts, and dozens sent direct messages defending themselves.

Spotify didn’t answer questions about what safeguards are in place, but its user agreement does prohibit “circumventing any territorial restrictions applied by Spotify or its licensors” (free accounts streaming from locations other than their original ones will be deactivated after two weeks), as well as “providing your password to any other person or using any other person’s username and password.” Doing so could lead to suspension or termination of the account.

Apple Music and representatives for BTS did not respond to multiple requests for comment, nor did the three biggest music labels and distributors in the world: Warner Music Group, Universal Music Group, and Sony Music.

But experts say that unless there are truly effective safeguards in place, the ability to set up flash accounts to continually stream an artist’s music — and artificially boost its performance — exposes the Billboard system to fraud.


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“The standardized, readily available numbers from Spotify are putting the Billboard charts out of business,” said Peter Fader, a University of Pennsylvania professor of marketing who testified as an expert witness in the 1999 Napster trials and who has extensively researched the industry. “Music lovers are coming to look to Spotify for everything — not only for metrics, but for guidance on which artist we should be listening to, trends in the industry.”

Without detailed data from the major industry players, it’s unclear how many fans are using deceptive tactics to boost musicians and whether they have the power to materially affect the Billboard charts.

Billboard declined to comment to BuzzFeed News, but speaking to the Washington Postin July, senior vice president of charts and data development Silvio Pietroluongo said the company reacts “to the marketplace around us.”

“I think we were fairly nimble on downloading, and even more so on streaming, to make sure we’re reflecting where the music consumer is going,” he said. “Where that will end up, though, I don’t know.”

Sales tracking services Nielsen and the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) claim to have safeguards, but neither group would describe their methods. And accounting firm Gelfand, Rennert & Feldman, which for 35 years has audited sales figures for the RIAA, did not answer multiple requests for comment.


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BTS, whose fans launched a campaign to help the K-pop group reach No. 1 on Spotify.


“Anytime you have a metric, people will come up with a way to manipulate it,” Fader said. “It invites gameplay.”

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While that gameplay does not conclusively prove chart rankings and streaming numbers have been compromised, the industry’s silence raises questions, said journalist Markus Tobiassen, who broke the story on how Tidal inflated the number of times people had streamed famous artists’ albums, falsely boosting the counts by hundreds of millions of plays.

“While we were reporting on Tidal, we went to Billboard and the Norwegian charts and asked them if they counted the hundreds of millions of extra Kanye and Beyoncé plays,” he said. “They said they had safeguards in place, but they couldn’t give us a conclusive answer on whether they had identified them and discounted the extra plays.”

Based on his reporting and a study from the Norwegian University of Science and Technology, Tobiassen said it’s “highly unlikely” Billboard did.

The question is not so much whether these companies have safeguards, he said, but whether those protective measures have independent oversight. Royalties from companies like Spotify and Apple Music made up two-thirds of the music industry’s revenue in 2017. And Spotify metrics are now so important that they factor into album releases, touring schedules, promotion, and even artist collaborations.


“[Billboard] couldn’t give us a conclusive answer on whether they had identified them and discounted the extra plays.”



“It’s understandable that these companies don’t want to disclose their systems. Someone will then game them and adapt,” Tobiassen said. “On the other hand, there is a lack of third-party verification we know about, someone rubber-stamping this, as in other businesses. In the digital economy, that is lacking.”

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Reports like Tobiassen’s pressure trackers like Billboard to justify their counts as the streaming universe continues to expand, posting double-digit percentage growth year over year. In the first half of 2018, overall on-demand streaming increased 41.7% in the US, hitting 403.5 billion streams, according to Nielsen Music.

“Billboard is still groping in the dark to balance the data inputs, and they haven’t found the right ones,” Fader said. “When you start changing it so that you can’t compare today’s numbers with last year’s, that’s a problem.”

But streaming companies with subscriber bases in the millions ultimately can’t police everything, Mulligan said. And so as traditional “hard” metrics like downloads and purchases wane, the digital streaming cat-and-mouse game with fans may be an inevitable part of the future.

“A series of computers auto-generating repeated plays of a track is clearly a case of fake plays,” he said. “The audio streaming services have thus far been effective at nipping them in the bud. The bottom line, though, is that hardcore fans will always do what they can to help their favorite artists, and some degree of gaming the system will seep through.” ●
 

Very interesting article. Stans have been doing this for a cool min. I first peeped around when One Direction was killing it.

I think there’s always gonna be some opportunity for trickery in this ****. The question of if it’s really “fake” since it’s being done by fans vs the artist/team is interesting as well.

Honestly, I woul prolly prefer this rather than the sneaky **** labels were doing with physicals during the “golden era”. _’s going Gold and Platinum off “shipped” albums that were ultimately sent back to the labels for credit and just ended up sitting in a ******* warehouse somewhere.

If your fans are really that die hard it is what it is I guess
 
Just heard diddy's son rap on the hot 97 interview with his crew


I like it. Hope to hear more form dude in the future. Need hip hop to take a trip back down that lane
 
Music industry is filthy. I wonder how often this happens.
Michael Jackson fans around the world will feel a major sense of victory as Sony Music has conceded finally in court that they released three fake tracks sung by an impersonator. These songs, ‘Breaking News’, ‘Keep Your Head Up’ and ‘Monster’ appeared on the late legend’s first posthumous album, Micheal in 2010. It debuted at number 3 on the Billboard 200 with first week sales of 228k
http://hiphop-n-more.com/2018/08/so...-fake-michael-jackson-songs-posthumous-album/
 
Yall got me pocket watching now..

Fetty got serious about his money and took classes to help him manage and invest wisely. The rhymer tells XXL he took the classes because he wanted to learn the value of money and become more informed about the stock market. According to him, he flipped $1.3 million into $20 million in about a year. Fetty thanks his business manager for the assist and for helping him understand the true value of money.
You thanked your business manager for helping you turn $1.3 million into $20 million. What sparked you to do a successful investment and what advice do you have for artists who are trying to do the same with their money?

It was really my business manager Mark. He really was the one who helped me out a lot. He was like the “no” man to all the “yes” men. Like when it was becoming exceeding, like too much spending on cars and stuff, there was like a point where he sat me down and asked me a serious question where some people might’ve been like, “Who are you to ask me this question? Or say this to me? This is my mine.”

And he was like, “Yo, what does your money do for you?” and I was like, “What are you talking about? I make this and I made that and I have this and I’m about to have this coming in,” and he was like, “Aight, but when you stop doing shows, the money is just gonna sit there,” and I ain’t understand what he meant, so I actually got into the accident and I had no shows, so it was just like… mmmhhh, the number is not going up you know what I mean? Like I know it’s a good number and it looks good but in about three weeks I’m gonna have to pay my mom’s bills, my bills and this and that, you know what I mean?

So really he just made me kind of get myself involved in the investment field, like the stock field. At first it was him kind of working with me, more than working for me and he was just showing me as we went forward. Then when I got into it heavy that’s when I took it upon myself to put myself in the little financial classes and the business management classes and the money classes to learn the value of the money and how the money is working.

I learned the best ways on where to put your money, where to place it and how the stocks actually work versus how people make them work and how your supposed to watch them rather than looking at the iPhone or the newspaper. When you’re going to do something, this is something you gotta be consistent with and that’s really kind of one of the things that took my time in 2016, you know what I’m saying? Because I was really focused and I mean I did pretty good for myself [laughs].

People always ask me what I invest in, but I never say anything because I never wanna kill my strategy. Everybody has their own strategy and that’s one of the things you learn as being an investor. My advice would be once you find your way in, stay on it because it changes very frequently and happens very quickly and $10,000 can turn into zero or $10,000 can turn into $100,000. You just gotta know when to put your money in and put your money out.

 
his label situation must've imploded....no knocked to 69, but fetty was on fire, what happened to his handlers?

They mishandled him badly. They released too many singles from his first album. He had literally 5 hit singles when all he needed was trap queen. They shouldve saved the other ones for his next project. After those 5 singles, he had other songs but they didnt gain static.
 
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