R.I.P Trayvon

[bilboshmangins]

Damn, he had on a hoodie and shoes too, more burglar tools. Crappy burglar though, If i'm robbing homes at night, how I'm gon get my screwdriver out the school locker when it's closed?

explain the female jewelry in his locker...he borrowed it from his mom for show and tell?

You can't explain it either, the only person who can is dead, but somehow you assume stolen. Assassinating his character, all which has nothing to do with the fact that a child minding his business, doing nothing at the time was shot and killed by someone with no idea what's in his locker, what's in his texts, his fighting background, none of that. Nothing. You keep going going under the guise of seeing things objectively, you're completely full of ****, you should know this. As many viewpoints as there are in this thread for either side, NO ONE is helping you fight your nonsensical battle. Go take a seat.

I never said he stole the jewelry. I said it was a possibility....so again, stop twisting my words around. Obviously, I have to see things objectively to come up with a verdict. I am using both side's (GZ and TM) witnesses and evidence. So in a sense, I'm looking at attorney's and witnesses' subjective opinions objectively...if that makes sense to you.

We dont know the certain truth, so all we can do is use all evidence/witnesses' statements provided to come up with the best verdict. And I agree with the jury.

You have a good day b.

not sure what u dont understand. Let me try to formulate this into 1st grade math.

locker(screwdriver + female jewelry) = possible burglary

what if he was using the screwdriver to fix the jewelry  for someone? Schools have screwdrivers...shop class etc.

 

[celticsfan9783]

im not sure if u read my previous replies, but the screwdriver and female jewelry is only supporting the statement that he may have possibly been a burglar. And this possibility is to contradict the media's portrayal of TM as being a saint.
It had nothing to do with home burglaries...although it could be possible.

So what is the point of bringing up the jewelry in his locker? He wasn't a saint. Most kids aren't. What's so intriguing about that?

emotions are lady like? how? im too objective?

I was talking about others actually.

 

[dayman]

i look like i lift to people who dont lift.

people who lift dont think i lift.

im getting there...went from 155 lb to 185 lb 14% bf, but im getting thee. I'm currently bulking and trying to get to 205 lb and do a cut after that. Hopefully I'll get there in 1 yr.

 

[dayman]

im not sure if u read my previous replies, but the screwdriver and female jewelry is only supporting the statement that he may have possibly been a burglar. And this possibility is to contradict the media's portrayal of TM as being a saint.
It had nothing to do with home burglaries...although it could be possible.

So what is the point of bringing up the jewelry in his locker? He wasn't a saint. Most kids aren't. What's so intriguing about that?

emotions are lady like? how? im too objective?

I was talking about others actually.

i completely agree most kids aren't saints. Like I said before, it was to contradict the portrayal of TM as being a saint and GZ as this cruel human being whose intentions was to murder TM. This debate occured a couple pages back, so you may have missed it.

My replies to this debate that we're having will seem pretty weird if people just joined in.

 

[gllahone84]

not sure what u dont understand. Let me try to formulate this into 1st grade math.

locker(screwdriver + female jewelry) = possible burglary

The elevator doesn't reach the top floor...

 

[bilboshmangins]

i look like i lift to people who dont lift.

people who lift dont think i lift.

im getting there...went from 155 lb to 185 lb 14% bf, but im getting thee. I'm currently bulking and trying to get to 205 lb and do a cut after that. Hopefully I'll get there in 1 yr.

you're not very bright are you?

 

[dayman]

not sure what u dont understand. Let me try to formulate this into 1st grade math.

locker(screwdriver + female jewelry) = possible burglary

what if he was using the screwdriver to fix the jewelry  for someone? Schools have screwdrivers...shop class etc.

yea, that's a possibility, as well. Again...all possibilities....but in my personal opinion, a burglary seem most likely.

Not sure how u can fix necklaces with a screwdriver because my friend who fixes jewelry uses a lot of soldering equipment.

again, it's all possibilities, hence, i didnt jump into conclusion calling him a burglar.

 

[shady]

 

[thunderchunk69]

let's be serious though,

who here has gone to a high school where you're allowed to have a screwdriver in your locker?

I'm pretty sure most high school have a 0 tolerance for weapons and would have expelled.

 

[dayman]

i look like i lift to people who dont lift.

people who lift dont think i lift.

im getting there...went from 155 lb to 185 lb 14% bf, but im getting thee. I'm currently bulking and trying to get to 205 lb and do a cut after that. Hopefully I'll get there in 1 yr.

you're not very bright are you?

i dont get it...enlighten me?

you bolded my physical stats and provided the do u even lift meme....so...i thoguht u were mocking my stats. I know it's not amazing in the bodybuilding community.

 

[gllahone84]

let's be serious though,

who here has gone to a high school where you're allowed to have a screwdriver in your locker?

I'm pretty sure most high school have a 0 tolerance for weapons and would have expelled.

Ya'll dudes provide the entertainment for a slow work day...I tell ya

 

[dayman]

let's be serious though,

who here has gone to a high school where you're allowed to have a screwdriver in your locker?

I'm pretty sure most high school have a 0 tolerance for weapons and would have expelled.

what if theres a workshop class fixing jewelry?

 

[dayman]

let's be serious though,

who here has gone to a high school where you're allowed to have a screwdriver in your locker?

I'm pretty sure most high school have a 0 tolerance for weapons and would have expelled.

Ya'll dudes provide the entertainment for a slow work day...I tell ya

it's strange that you haven't given a strong rebuttal to any of my statements, yet.

still waiting.....

 

[bruce negro]

im not sure if u read my previous replies, but the screwdriver and female jewelry is only supporting the statement that he may have possibly been a burglar. And this possibility is to contradict the media's portrayal of TM as being a saint.

It had nothing to do with home burglaries...although it could be possible.

So what is the point of bringing up the jewelry in his locker? He wasn't a saint. Most kids aren't. What's so intriguing about that?

emotions are lady like? how? im too objective?

I was talking about others actually.

i completely agree most kids aren't saints. Like I said before, it was to contradict the portrayal of TM as being a saint and GZ as this cruel human being whose intentions was to murder TM. This debate occured a couple pages back, so you may have missed it.
My replies to this debate that we're having will seem pretty weird if people just joined in.

Think it kinda boils down to whether or not you deserve to die just because you stole some jewelry (allegedly). People have trouble trying to decide whether or not the death penalty is "humane" for people that are convicted murderers, so I don't believe the fact that he was murdered by a stranger should be viewed any differently whether he was a saint or amateur jewelry thief.

 

[bilboshmangins]

let's be serious though,

who here has gone to a high school where you're allowed to have a screwdriver in your locker?

I'm pretty sure most high school have a 0 tolerance for weapons and would have expelled.

i think you're confusing a highschool with a prison...

some jurisdictions actually use screwdrivers for their intended purposes.

 

[thunderchunk69]

let's be serious though,


who here has gone to a high school where you're allowed to have a screwdriver in your locker?


I'm pretty sure most high school have a 0 tolerance for weapons and would have expelled.

what if theres a workshop class fixing jewelry?

tools are kept in class.

and I'm not even trolling, you guys can't be serious.
I've gone to 2 public high schools, they would have considered it a weapon and expelled someone for having it in their locker/bookbag.

but no, I wouldn't consider it a weapon, just stating rules.

I bet it was even in your rulebook/code of conduct they gave you in the first week of class, you're just pretending I'm making this stuff up

 

[bilboshmangins]

i look like i lift to people who dont lift.

people who lift dont think i lift.

im getting there...went from 155 lb to 185 lb 14% bf, but im getting thee. I'm currently bulking and trying to get to 205 lb and do a cut after that. Hopefully I'll get there in 1 yr.

you're not very bright are you?

i dont get it...enlighten me?

you bolded my physical stats and provided the do u even lift meme....so...i thoguht u were mocking my stats. I know it's not amazing in the bodybuilding community.

like I care about your bodybuilding stats in a trayvon martin thread? 

you're a simple dude.

 

[gllahone84]

i think you're confusing a highschool with a prison...

some jurisdictions actually use screwdrivers for their intended purposes.

 

[gllahone84]

it's strange that you haven't given a strong rebuttal to any of my statements, yet.

still waiting.....

sit down 

 

[bilboshmangins]

so now trayvon was using the screwdriver to shank people at school? (mind you you don't even know what type of screwdriver it was, what type of jewelry it was etc)

I see how you guys can think that Zimmerman was innocent now, make perfect sense!

 

[thunderchunk69]

so now trayvon was using the screwdriver to shank people at school?

because that's what I said...

I even said I wouldn't consider it a weapon, but I'm sure most high school do.

 

[dayman]

i look like i lift to people who dont lift.

people who lift dont think i lift.

im getting there...went from 155 lb to 185 lb 14% bf, but im getting thee. I'm currently bulking and trying to get to 205 lb and do a cut after that. Hopefully I'll get there in 1 yr.

you're not very bright are you?

i dont get it...enlighten me?

you bolded my physical stats and provided the do u even lift meme....so...i thoguht u were mocking my stats. I know it's not amazing in the bodybuilding community.

like I care about your bodybuilding stats in a trayvon martin thread? 

you're a simple dude.

well then, that's not a very good joke.

 

[bilboshmangins]

let's be serious though,


who here has gone to a high school where you're allowed to have a screwdriver in your locker?

I'm pretty sure most high school have a 0 tolerance for weapons and would have expelled.

what if theres a workshop class fixing jewelry?

tools are kept in class.

and I'm not even trolling, you guys can't be serious.
I've gone to 2 public high schools, they would have considered it a weapon and expelled someone for having it in their locker/bookbag.

but no, I wouldn't consider it a weapon, just stating rules.

I bet it was even in your rulebook/code of conduct they gave you in the first week of class, you're just pretending I'm making this stuff up

i guess people were getting shanked in shop class?

 

[dayman]

im not sure if u read my previous replies, but the screwdriver and female jewelry is only supporting the statement that he may have possibly been a burglar. And this possibility is to contradict the media's portrayal of TM as being a saint.

It had nothing to do with home burglaries...although it could be possible.

So what is the point of bringing up the jewelry in his locker? He wasn't a saint. Most kids aren't. What's so intriguing about that?

emotions are lady like? how? im too objective?

I was talking about others actually.

i completely agree most kids aren't saints. Like I said before, it was to contradict the portrayal of TM as being a saint and GZ as this cruel human being whose intentions was to murder TM. This debate occured a couple pages back, so you may have missed it.
My replies to this debate that we're having will seem pretty weird if people just joined in.

Think it kinda boils down to whether or not you deserve to die just because you stole some jewelry (allegedly). People have trouble trying to decide whether or not the death penalty is "humane" for people that are convicted murderers, so I don't believe the fact that he was murdered by a stranger should be viewed any differently whether he was a saint or amateur jewelry thief.

no one deserved to die in this incident. NO ONE. That's a horrible thing to say even as a theoretical question.

Like I said, my replies to this debate that we're having will seem pretty weird if people just joined in.

 

[harlemtothebronx]

We talkin' about screwdrivers. Not the case. Not the case. Not the case. We talkin' about screwdrivers, man.