R.I.P Trayvon

[hand2handking]

I never said his word was gospel. I don't even personally believe everything he said.

You asked how we deduce what happened during a crime without video evidence. I told you. If you don't know the procedure, then you have homework to do.

I stand by my original statement. You and ninja have different views of what went down. They're BOTH probably different from my view. Doesn't make one of us more or less ignorant than the next. No one knows what factually and truthfully went down between TM and GZ unfortunately, so we're left to fill in the gaps with our imaginations. How you call someone ignorant for that, I do not know....

Which opinions are you assuming I agree with?

And if my 2010 = new, then yes. I'm taking ninja's opinion at face value. If he trolls other threads or has expressed something that gives you a preconceived notion of his beliefs, then I'm not hip.

Obviously. Why are we creating these phantom scenarios though?

*head explodes*

 

[reggiekiller]

I hear Fat Joe use the N' word regularly, he must be racist as hell now

But seriously.  The word cracker doesnt have anywhere near the impact, or the negative history behind it that the N' word does, so please, lets not act like its the same thing

Like blacks were going around calling a group of people cracka while in turn whipping, molesting, and being downright abusive with no regard for their humanity. Like cracka denotes human chattel...not even. 

Nah...cracka doesn't even have the same reach as ******. 

Come on bruh...

Cracka came into being as a response to ******. Eventually you start to reverse the tide, and after 400 years of being reduced to a byword then what would you really expect? 

Cracka doesn't even have the same historical attachments that are related to a word such as ******. 

The word "cracker" was a term used by slaves to describe plantation owners that evolved from the phrase "whip cracker"

so thats more demeaning than a word that was used to degrade blacks to below human form, while being called ******* while being whipped

 

[deuce king]

Black people cant be racists... Thats rich

"Creepy *** cracker" got that fat broad hosed

On da witness stand for a reason.....

I hear Fat Joe use the N' word regularly, he must be racist as hell now

But seriously.  The word cracker doesnt have anywhere near the impact, or the negative history behind it that the N' word does, so please, lets not act like its the same thing

oh because cracker and da N word are both casually exchanged equally in conversation in this generation

da media tried to play up this white vs black backstory and when it failed because zimmerman is actually hispanic they

pulled "white hispanic" out they *****...

at da end of da day self defense is what won this case..nothing else.

Zimmerman classified himself as WHITE according to the medical paperwork his filled out the very next day after he murdered Trayvon.  At the end of the day, George Zimmerman has the complexion for the protection, for the collection.  You however muchacho do not have the same fortune. 

umm both my parents are from da dominican republic, says so on my birth certificate & im fluent in spanish...try again.

im hispanic, more then zimmerman.

you need a intern job at al sharpton's office, im sure he can use a few more race peddlers around.

It's obvious my comment flew right over your head, but I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt only because it's Friday champ.  Had this been Monday or Tuesday you would have been in serious trouble my friend.  Now given my comment, I meant that George Zimmerman can pass himself off as being white in certain circles and get away with that claim.  YOU however ninjahood with your complexion would not be able to.  Hence the term "complexion for the protection for the collection." 

 

[gllahone84]

The word "cracker" was a term used by slaves to describe plantation owners that evolved from the phrase "whip cracker"

Ok, thanks for hitting up your source...

To describe plantation owners...you mean SLAVE owners? 

What kind of reply is this dank? 

That's even worse than what I put up...

 

[superblytrife]

Black people cant be racists... Thats rich

"Creepy *** cracker" got that fat broad hosed

On da witness stand for a reason.....

I hear Fat Joe use the N' word regularly, he must be racist as hell now

But seriously.  The word cracker doesnt have anywhere near the impact, or the negative history behind it that the N' word does, so please, lets not act like its the same thing

oh because cracker and da N word are both casually exchanged equally in conversation in this generation

da media tried to play up this white vs black backstory and when it failed because zimmerman is actually hispanic they

pulled "white hispanic" out they *****...

at da end of da day self defense is what won this case..nothing else.

Zimmerman classified himself as WHITE according to the medical paperwork his filled out the very next day after he murdered Trayvon.  At the end of the day, George Zimmerman has the complexion for the protection, for the collection.  You however muchacho do not have the same fortune. 

umm both my parents are from da dominican republic, says so on my birth certificate & im fluent in spanish...try again.

im hispanic, more then zimmerman.

you need a intern job at al sharpton's office, im sure he can use a few more race peddlers around.

I think what he was saying is that to the average person, you look like a black dude.  Which is true.  So no, you do not have the complexion for the protection, no matter how much you want to claim "hispanic".

You're perceived as black by many people, ninja.  Get over it already.  Embrace it like you embrace the word n**** on Twitter.  

 

[gllahone84]

Yo ninja is darker than me bruh...

 

[Chopper]

this damn thread. And GZ looks nowhere near white. How people think that is beyond me.

 

[ninjahood]

da second i seen zimmerman i knew i was from south america... unlike americans, da rest of da world doesn't see da world in just black and white.

bottomline is da zimmerman is not guilty because of self defense, his injuries were shown as being sustained from being under trayvon martin.

 

[gllahone84]

da second i seen zimmerman i knew i was from south america... unlike americans, da rest of da world doesn't see da world in just black and white.

bottomline is da zimmerman is not guilty because of self defense, his injuries were shown as being sustained from being under trayvon martin.

You'll have a hard time convincing your fellow Republicans of that. 

 

[dankenstien88]

I hear Fat Joe use the N' word regularly, he must be racist as hell now

But seriously.  The word cracker doesnt have anywhere near the impact, or the negative history behind it that the N' word does, so please, lets not act like its the same thing

Like blacks were going around calling a group of people cracka while in turn whipping, molesting, and being downright abusive with no regard for their humanity. Like cracka denotes human chattel...not even. 


Nah...cracka doesn't even have the same reach as ******. 


Come on bruh...

Cracka came into being as a response to ******. Eventually you start to reverse the tide, and after 400 years of being reduced to a byword then what would you really expect? 


Cracka doesn't even have the same historical attachments that are related to a word such as ******. 

The word "cracker" was a term used by slaves to describe plantation owners that evolved from the phrase "whip cracker"

so thats more demeaning than a word that was used to degrade blacks to below human form, while being called ******* while being whipped

Yeah... word makes me cringe whenever I hear someone say it because so few people have ANY idea what they're actually alluding to.

The word "cracker" was a term used by slaves to describe plantation owners that evolved from the phrase "whip cracker"

Ok, thanks for hitting up your source...

To describe plantation owners...you mean SLAVE owners? 

What kind of reply is this dark? 

That's even worse than what I put up...

Yes, slave owners.... my bad.

Didnt mean to rustle... just inform

 

[reggiekiller]

da second i seen zimmerman i knew i was from south america... unlike americans, da rest of da world doesn't see da world in just black and white.

bottomline is da zimmerman is not guilty because of self defense, his injuries were shown as being sustained from being under trayvon martin.

Because the American justice system hasn't shown VAST corruptions in justice when dealing with African Americans

Because Trayvon Martin was there to tell his side of the story and defend himself right?

I guess you're glad Casey Anthony got off too huh?

 

[celticsfan9783]

*head explodes*

Don't know why you're confused bro. Just because indisputable FACTS based on video aren't available, doesn't mean human beings can't come to conclusions based on other evidence such as witness testimony, trace evidence, etc. Is it flawed and imperfect? Hell yes! Where is the confusion though?

It sounds like you're in some fantasy land where you believe there can somehow be absolute universal justice. Impossible.

 

[hand2handking]

I see what you are trying to say but I've yet to be convinced. So if a mexican dude goes to an all black barbershop to get a fade, and the barbershop there tells him "No we don't cut people of your kind, leave." That's not racist? I'll be convinced if you can answer me that question lol

iswydt

but no its not racist. in an all black barbershop, that we have established as all black, the barber may just not know how to cut long, straight or curly hair, and rather than admit that and take a customers money for subpar service, he "kindly" referred him to another establishment.   if he said "and dont ever come back ****", that would be racist.

 

[superblytrife]

da second i seen zimmerman i knew i was from south america... unlike americans, da rest of da world doesn't see da world in just black and white.

bottomline is da zimmerman is not guilty because of self defense, his injuries were shown as being sustained from being under trayvon martin.

Good for you, but you live in America.  So does George Zimmerman and isn't that who we're discussing here?  

 

Stop trying to avoid the obvious truth, sir.  If you went into that police station and wrote down that you're white, they'd laugh your black *** out of that station.  Zimmerman?  Not so much.

 

[ninjahood]

da second i seen zimmerman i knew i was from south america... unlike americans, da rest of da world doesn't see da world in just black and white.

bottomline is da zimmerman is not guilty because of self defense, his injuries were shown as being sustained from being under trayvon martin.

You'll have a hard time convincing your fellow Republicans of that. 

so there's no such thing as black/hispanic/asian GOP members now?

 

[ninjahood]

da second i seen zimmerman i knew i was from south america... unlike americans, da rest of da world doesn't see da world in just black and white.

bottomline is da zimmerman is not guilty because of self defense, his injuries were shown as being sustained from being under trayvon martin.

Good for you, but you live in America.  So does George Zimmerman and isn't that who we're discussing here?  

Stop trying to avoid the obvious truth, sir.  If you went into that police station and wrote down that you're white, they'd laugh your black *** out of that station.  Zimmerman?  Not so much.

zimmerman doesn't look white..is skin color all you guys see? thats pathetic...

and im not black.

 

[celticsfan9783]

YOU however ninjahood with your complexion would not be able to.  Hence the term "complexion for the protection for the collection." 

When you say complexion, are you talking purely physical characteristics?

 

[ninjahood]

da second i seen zimmerman i knew i was from south america... unlike americans, da rest of da world doesn't see da world in just black and white.

bottomline is da zimmerman is not guilty because of self defense, his injuries were shown as being sustained from being under trayvon martin.

Because the American justice system hasn't shown VAST corruptions in justice when dealing with African Americans

Because Trayvon Martin was there to tell his side of the story and defend himself right?

I guess you're glad Casey Anthony got off too huh?

my ******g gawd.... zimmerman was thrown to da WOLVES on live TV...if you think he DIDN'T get a fair trial i dunno what to tell you.

 

[gllahone84]

so there's no such thing as black/hispanic/asian GOP members now?

Yeah, you have your Rubio's who are used to bring in the Latino voters, along with a few other Hispanic political figures.

Similar to the way Herman Cain was thought to be a challenger to Obama based on race, but we saw the folly in that. 

Within the past year or so the RNC has established several programs which are aimed at attracting Latino voters. 

It's not sincere. 

 

[hand2handking]

Don't know why you're confused bro. Just because indisputable FACTS based on video aren't available, doesn't mean human beings can't come to conclusions based on other evidence such as witness testimony, trace evidence, etc. Is it flawed and imperfect? Hell yes! Where is the confusion though?

It sounds like you're in some fantasy land where you believe there can somehow be absolute universal justice. Impossible.

so if to understand, racism will always exist, and equality is impossible?

 

[reggiekiller]

da second i seen zimmerman i knew i was from south america... unlike americans, da rest of da world doesn't see da world in just black and white.

bottomline is da zimmerman is not guilty because of self defense, his injuries were shown as being sustained from being under trayvon martin.

Good for you, but you live in America.  So does George Zimmerman and isn't that who we're discussing here?  

Stop trying to avoid the obvious truth, sir.  If you went into that police station and wrote down that you're white, they'd laugh your black *** out of that station.  Zimmerman?  Not so much.

zimmerman doesn't look white..is skin color all you guys see? thats pathetic...

and im not black.

http://maxweber.hunter.cuny.edu/pub/eres/SOC217_PIMENTEL/dominicanidentity.pdf

The tribulations of blackness: stages in Dominican racial identity.

by Silvio Torres-Saillant

Racial identity and thinking in the Dominican Republic have been influenced by historical events 

that occurred in Dominican society and culture. Observers have pointed out that, despite 

widespread discrimination practiced in their country, Afro-Dominicans apparently refuse to 

express pride in their identity. A deracialized consciousness has pervaded the Dominicans’ 

concept of race.

 

[semf]

Any black man teaming up with a party that champions the thoughts of George Wallace is simply confused.

why can't a man have the freedom to choose his own political stance?

why does he have to have the same views as someone just because of their race?

 

[celticsfan9783]

And GZ looks nowhere near white. How people think that is beyond me.

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[celticsfan9783]

so if to understand, racism will always exist, and equality is impossible?

¿Que?

 

[superblytrife]

da second i seen zimmerman i knew i was from south america... unlike americans, da rest of da world doesn't see da world in just black and white.

bottomline is da zimmerman is not guilty because of self defense, his injuries were shown as being sustained from being under trayvon martin.

Good for you, but you live in America.  So does George Zimmerman and isn't that who we're discussing here?  

Stop trying to avoid the obvious truth, sir.  If you went into that police station and wrote down that you're white, they'd laugh your black *** out of that station.  Zimmerman?  Not so much.

zimmerman doesn't look white..is skin color all you guys see? thats pathetic...

and im not black.

No you're not, but you really believe that you're not perceived as being black by many whites (and blacks, for that matter)?

And whether you want to accept it or not, perception of race IS a factor in the justice system.