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Originally Posted by sickickz23
Originally Posted by JordansRMyCrack
Originally Posted by sickickz23
The downfall or demise of JB is 50% of JB producing the lackluster shoes, and 50% of the buyers who buy the products.
Let's look at it from another example. Toyota, and Honda, year after year, have proven to be the top automakers for this country due to overall sales. It's no secret. Toyota and Honda has proven to be quality cars. They would not dare to compromise the quality and say, "hey these buyers will buy anything with a Toyota or Honda badge on it, so let's cut corners on some the cars. The consumer will never notice."
The consumers that buy cards are obviously much smarter than the consumer for JB. But looking at that example, the automakers Ford, Chrysler, and GM. They keep offering money saving deals for the consumers to purchase their cars. Why are they doing that? Simple. Buyers are steadily declining, and they need to attract them with enticing offers. You'd never see that with a car maker that is #1 in America.
"no matter what people say, these will sell out come release day" is a cop-out to me. Meaning, "what can I do about it. Nothing at all." One person voicing their disapproval is better than none. And then 2 turns into 3, 4 and so on. I want to see down the road, one day, that a butchered re-retro black cement III's or butchered bordeaux retro VIIs, not sell out, and send a message to JB, that enough is enough. Bad sadly, a lot of people are miseducated of the whole JB issue. Due to age, or whatever else the reason is.
"Oh well, there's nothing we can do about it. It is what it is. I'll just settle for the these."
Excellent points. The Toyota/Honda analogy was dead on! They know American consumers love buying their cars b/c of their own reputation. Yes, if they "cut corners", the American people would surely know about it. Why? Because they would be educated enough, in one way or another, to know the difference. The typical consumer for JB products, for the most part, do not know the difference. They just buy it b/c it has a Jumpman on it.
I'll give an example: My g/f's sister's husband bought his son some Jays to show off. He was like "yeah look at my boy. He's got the Jordans on." I was like, "no, those are not Jordans......those are Big Funds." I schooled him on the numbered Jays thing (hopefully he knows now), but he thought if it had a Jumpman, they are Jordans regardless of design, quality, shape, and/or color. My point is even the retro numbered Jordans fall into this category. Just b/c a shoe has a Jumpman on it, doesn't make it close to the OG Jordan shape/mold/quality numbered Jordan.
Let me give another analogy that we all can relate to. Take for instance toilet paper: At my work, toilet paper is supplied (thank goodness) but it's the cheap, rough, aloe-free, one-ply kind. If that was all I knew, then I would be great. However, I know of Charmin and love how soft and sturdy it feels when I wipe. Being that I know of Charmin, I don't use the work toilet paper but use my own roll that I brought from home. This is equivalent to saying Jordan WAS like Charmin but now is like work toilet paper, which--by the way--appropriately belongs in the toilet along with most of these recent retro JB releases. Ultimately, the work toilet paper and current releases of JB shoes still are, indeed, toilet paper and JB shoes, but they are not at all like they used to be.
This is where the education part comes in. If the typical, average consumer that buys a numbered Jordan from time to time cannot tell the difference of a retro vs OG model (simply because they do not know any better), then of course JB is going to continue to make crappier shoes to save unnecessary costs and reap in more greedy profits. Most companies do. Anyone remember health care 10 years ago? Same thing. Now we get worse care but at higher costs.
The fact of the matter remains that we are getting crappier Jordans that are altered with each release. And JB is doing it "because they can." It's no excuse--it's just pure fact. It won't change until people talk/write/post/voice out displeasure against JB's retro releases. And if so-called petitions don't work, then people have to "talk" with their dollars. But simple economics will dictate JB's future. Supply vs Demand. If JB continues to make crap products but they still get bought, JB will keep on continuing to make them. It is people like Sickkickz and others that should voice out their dissatisfaction in an attempt to not only educate the ignorant masses, but to also have their disapproval of JB's tactics be heard.
Sadly, I believe JB is no longer a company of PRIDE but of GREED instead.
Thanks and great points as well.
sadly we are in the vast minority and maybe one day, that will all change.
"One persons perception of truth, is another persons perception of hate." Especially on NT
Vast minority for now but what happens when all the kids jump ship and we are the only viable sector for JB to fall back on? Fact is, the era of theJordan trend is coming to an end and I believe once this happens we will have an opportunity to have our voices heard.
Also, one point about your Honda/Toyota analogy. Talk to anyone who owned a Ford or GM truck from the 70's or the 80's. They will tell you that thosethings would last FOREVER. Both of those companies decided to sacrifice quality and that eventually led to their downfall. Companies like Toyota and Hondastay on top because their main focus is on quality and innovation, not on cutting costs.
