I dunno I mean we're just having a conversation, and regardless if it seems so, I'll be the first to tell you, it's not that serious. Ifthats too much for you oh well, go back to reading about the sexual failures of a bunch of dudes if that interests you more.
I'm kind of past it most of the points at the moment because feel we've both said enough to wrap our heads around the opposing ideologies, I'mjust dancing around details now
RF, as far as the bold look to minor details point you mentioned goes, for me personally I like to be critical of both. If I'm gonna spend cake onsomething, I need both. I like my monogram Gucci athletic jacket because its got the full monogram body and because its got the little details most overlook. I think its crazy that the zipper has a black leather pull with a red/green stripe on the side of the leather. I've neevr seen another brand do that so itadds to it to me. Then if its like a gucci army shirt its got a great cut and material to make it awesome, and thenthe obviously 5mm gucci stripe adds asplash of branding.
I guess the other thing I'll disagree on is, how we view mongramming. you've got me wrong, I love it too because it sends an obvious message and thebrands that do it well make it look great, but to me its always gonna be shameless branding. I guess the way my mind works it I can't call ANYTHING withmonograming or obvious branding (ie: green/red stripe, logo patch, etc) subtle. I know EVERYONE sees it, and everyone who wears it wants them to, so its hardfor to accept that its not a major part of their reason for wearing it. I just won't present it anyway if I'm wearing it, because if it wasnt theresplenty of brands and piece from these brands that do the same stuff without it.
as far as the whole tattoo/hawian thing goes, I'm going off of the style names and descriptions given out by the gucci company on their official webite,andI think that says it all. I think what they tried to do was give it an italian or sicilian tatoo influence if anything. The mermaids and trinacria type styleof sicilian folk art just gives it that flare to me. To then toss that back to what the other dude said, how can we continue running with this idea that thesedesigner brands are SOOO trend setting and so gound breaking f they run directly too tattoo trends (gucci) and streetwear trends (LV) long after they'vecharted? What should we expect in 2011? Gucci and LV flannel collections? Its just more evidence to me that that genre recieves more credit then it deservesand people run with the concept
AF1 stuff- its not JUST the white, its the white paired with all the details I've mentioned that further proves te point
as far as the rest of the footwear stuff goes. I like sneaker looking sneakers and work style boot looking boots. Subtle and classic looking footwearbores me because I HATE formal shoes and all those styles relate back to that. Maybe it plays into why I have no problem doing the sneaker/formalwear thingbecause I work in fashion and entertainment. I never want to have to wear shoes in any setting unless I really REALLY want to like for a wedding or humanitarian award gala or something. I don't do formal office settings where I'm below anyone that their idea of what looks proper has any bearing onme, more often then not dressing MY WAY get me recognized in a good way. I've had owners of multi-million dollar lisciencing company stop meetngs, to takeme aside and ask me what made me want to pair italian jeans with, designer silver chains, rockstar thermals, and japanese vasity jackets. the only othersetting I know are clubs that try to play classy, and I'm usually gonna know who I need to know, or know someone who does so I get in however I want. Ipay attention to brands that try to be more conservative, I just don't have the desire or feel the need to participate beyond nownig them asreferences.
I don't wear Jordans or really nikes at all either. Its usally Vasque boots (what I'll say has long been to Jersey what Wale says nike boots are toDC), then its blk/white chucks, and blk/white shell toes. Those are classic style sneakers to me, and they send that message eevrytime, which is what I want, All other shoes have to be a great style that suits me if they are designer, crazy off the wall dope and wild if they are a regualar brand to even get lookedat, or just be an exact match for the outfits I want em for. Hate A-cups (will never think they don't look like alien shoes) Elans lacked enough classicchuck details and color combos to work for me, and brand like feragamo and bally sneakers tend to be TOO basic to have the stylistic qualities I look forpersonally to significantly different from most regular brands styles to be viewed as TIMELESSLY classic
I mean as far as the femine thing goes, alot of it to me links to being so excited to play by OTHER people rules. kanye and Co spend so much time talkingabout how what they do is classically fashionable and this and that that it just screams of that follower ideology. hip hop culture was basically born out ofrebellion, granted it became pop culture, but much on its own terms, so I dont see the need to be so focsed on someone elses rules when looking at fashio fromthat perspective. Beyond that running around with a crew of modern looking "dandies" kinda continues to push the point. Let's be serious theylook like !++#! eye fr the black guy. Some of its classy, but the way they carry it, just make it look more feminine. Dudes hit it on the head they look likedave chappelles vision of Rick james and co, I really can't see it any other way
I don't see why people who respect kanyes style get offended, are YOU running around win red sports coats and riding gloves? are you runnig around withacrew of dudes carrying colorful briefcases jut for te look in the ame manner women do purses? ya'll cool with dudes wearing tights? why worry, thefeminiscity is not comnig offa the small things of the situation
