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I don't know, why does Louis Vuitton charge $900 for those moon boot-looking things? Because they can.Originally Posted by Russ tha G
They're stuff is astronomical. What is really setting them apart? I mean, you can get crocodile luggage from other high-end designers for a good bit less than Hermes's prices. On another note, why'd they take $100k off the sticker for Pharrel? I'd think they'd let him pay full price because they know he can afford it. I doubt him carrying it works too well as a marketing tool.
And yeah, it's only brass. Their other jewelry isprices. I remember seeing a little charm (maybe half an inch in diameter) for a little over $1k.
Hermes' business comes from exclusivity and quality. Their stuff is made of the best stuff you can find and are all handmade. It has even beenstated that there are never 2 of the same bag and unique in it's own way because it is handmade.Originally Posted by Russ tha G
Didn't Hermes have a crocodile hoody that was around $80k?
They're stuff is astronomical. What is really setting them apart? I mean, you can get crocodile luggage from other high-end designers for a good bit less than Hermes's prices. On another note, why'd they take $100k off the sticker for Pharrel? I'd think they'd let him pay full price because they know he can afford it. I doubt him carrying it works too well as a marketing tool.
Originally Posted by curt2121
I pray to God that people don't try to ruin Hermes next. Some things just need to be left alone where they belong.
* just stating my opinion, NO HATE INTENDED. who am i to tell people how to spend their money. just interested in seeing the viewpoint of peoplethat wear these brands *Originally Posted by JayLove06
Finally, someone who can put into words what I've been feeling for a while. Good post!Originally Posted by dmbrhs
Okay, I've skimmed through about 40 pages of this thread and the one thing that comes to mind is this: logo abuse. Gucci, LV and Burberry are the main culprits.
The logo-heavy lines from those designers are not high fashion. They are constructed by these designer labels for two reasons: free advertising for the designer, and for the wearer to broadcast how much money they spend on clothes. Everyone knows how much a Burberry wallet, a Burberry polo, and a Gucci belt cost. And it's cheaply made. Burberry, for example, is the worst. Their wallets feel like plastic. They're terrible.
People obsessed with status symbols buy this stuff, but true high fashion (and fashion sense) lies in pieces that make sense with a wardrobe. If you're rockin' Sean John jeans with a Gucci belt, then you look like a fool. I have plenty of designer stuff, from Armani Collection to Michael Bastian, and even Burberry, but you'd never know who made what unless I told you. No logos.
I think it would behoove a lot of you to move past the logos and appreciate what some designers have out there based on how it all looks together, or at least how you can make it look with your wardrobe, rather than choose one item at a time that doesn't make sense.
And don't misinterpret this post, there's nothing wrong with the labels I mentioned early in this thread. They are pioneering fashion houses that have defined fashion for years (or 150, in the case of one of them), but they can be pulled off with better sensibility. LV is a relative newcomer to clothing, but the brand is ubiquitous. They have taken advantage of a marketing opportunity that costs them next to nothing.
There is no way that will happen.Originally Posted by curt2121
I pray to God that people don't try to ruin Hermes next. Some things just need to be left alone where they belong.
Originally Posted by 23k1cks23
* just stating my opinion, NO HATE INTENDED. who am i to tell people how to spend their money. just interested in seeing the viewpoint of people that wear these brands *Originally Posted by JayLove06
Finally, someone who can put into words what I've been feeling for a while. Good post!Originally Posted by dmbrhs
Okay, I've skimmed through about 40 pages of this thread and the one thing that comes to mind is this: logo abuse. Gucci, LV and Burberry are the main culprits.
The logo-heavy lines from those designers are not high fashion. They are constructed by these designer labels for two reasons: free advertising for the designer, and for the wearer to broadcast how much money they spend on clothes. Everyone knows how much a Burberry wallet, a Burberry polo, and a Gucci belt cost. And it's cheaply made. Burberry, for example, is the worst. Their wallets feel like plastic. They're terrible.
People obsessed with status symbols buy this stuff, but true high fashion (and fashion sense) lies in pieces that make sense with a wardrobe. If you're rockin' Sean John jeans with a Gucci belt, then you look like a fool. I have plenty of designer stuff, from Armani Collection to Michael Bastian, and even Burberry, but you'd never know who made what unless I told you. No logos.
I think it would behoove a lot of you to move past the logos and appreciate what some designers have out there based on how it all looks together, or at least how you can make it look with your wardrobe, rather than choose one item at a time that doesn't make sense.
And don't misinterpret this post, there's nothing wrong with the labels I mentioned early in this thread. They are pioneering fashion houses that have defined fashion for years (or 150, in the case of one of them), but they can be pulled off with better sensibility. LV is a relative newcomer to clothing, but the brand is ubiquitous. They have taken advantage of a marketing opportunity that costs them next to nothing.
i agree with you 2 completely. lets be honest, 99% of you guys wear these brands because it shows how "rich" you are, and its what the rappers are wearing. if you were truly a fan of luxury/designer brands you wouldn't care how big or small a logo is. but also 99% of us if we pay the price, we want people to know what the brand is. some people i think just drop the cash to buy these luxury items and then go around and bash on hypebeasts thinking they aren't one. most dudes that are on this fade right now were nowhere to be seen a year ago. same dudes with all the mitchell and ness jerseys/jackets collecting dust in their closets.
Originally Posted by RFX45
Hermes' business comes from exclusivity and quality. Their stuff is made of the best stuff you can find and are all handmade. It has even been stated that there are never 2 of the same bag and unique in it's own way because it is handmade.Originally Posted by Russ tha G
Didn't Hermes have a crocodile hoody that was around $80k?
They're stuff is astronomical. What is really setting them apart? I mean, you can get crocodile luggage from other high-end designers for a good bit less than Hermes's prices. On another note, why'd they take $100k off the sticker for Pharrel? I'd think they'd let him pay full price because they know he can afford it. I doubt him carrying it works too well as a marketing tool.
The other part is exclusivity, charging an extreme amount of money to keep it with the rich and that is how they want their brand image to be. It is not just for brand image but also a somewhat of a advertisement. Giving Pharrell a discount is a good move as it may have pushed him, not only did he made the purchase, but it made the news too. If Pharrell bought it without a discount, it is just another celebrity who purchased it, but since they do not give discount, by doing so with a famous, influential person, it made the news and now other celebs will follow in his shoe and Hermes will make much more money from young celebs or other spoiled young people that loves or follows Pharrell's trend. making news will reach more people than just a regular day in Pharrell shopping.
Thats the reason why it won't get too popular. There leathe is so soft tho. I have seen some belts at a couple of High End resell stores heremy mom shops at. There were like $250.Originally Posted by RFX45
Originally Posted by curt2121
I pray to God that people don't try to ruin Hermes next. Some things just need to be left alone where they belong.
Hermes will be a bit difficult to get into, they do not have a big logo nor are they very creative/trend oriented with their stuff.
Now if NT all of a sudden start wearing nothing but $5,000 suits with $500 tie and a $5,000 briefcase and then you can start worrying.
It will still be exclusive to the rich as most of their items even has a long waiting list, at least those damn bags women seem to love.
Originally Posted by houstonsnk
Thats the reason why it won't get too popular. There leathe is so soft tho. I have seen some belts at a couple of High End resell stores here my mom shops at. There were like $250.Originally Posted by RFX45
Originally Posted by curt2121
I pray to God that people don't try to ruin Hermes next. Some things just need to be left alone where they belong.
Hermes will be a bit difficult to get into, they do not have a big logo nor are they very creative/trend oriented with their stuff.
Now if NT all of a sudden start wearing nothing but $5,000 suits with $500 tie and a $5,000 briefcase and then you can start worrying.
It will still be exclusive to the rich as most of their items even has a long waiting list, at least those damn bags women seem to love.
no problem, R I'll try to break it down
The Jersey Shirt wrote:
THOUGHTS ON WHAT HIGH FASHION IS
i dunno just to speak on the branding/ no branding $*%% I feel kind of on the outside looking in because the whole "high fashion" concept is knida bunk to me. I don't really agree with the definitions people put out there so I just don't look at it that way. I think depending on where you stand and what you do can push you either way on it. to me personally the whole more formal look has no precedent in my life, so why would I think the only way to be HIGH FASHION is to wear what i consider to be very bland outfits, no matter what brands make it. I've spent plenty of time studying the details of the stuff people are saying that makes things HIGH FASHION, and all I can conclude is that its just not that simple. I've seen the more formal stuff these brands put out and its not really dfferent from stuff other people put out, so its hard for me to say what realy looks better or why it should be high fashion.
THOUGHTS ON HOW BRANDING IS USED AND PERCIEVED
To say it for the 1000th time I just feel obvious branding always takes precedent in peoples mind over any of these details whether they are there or not for the whole "stunting" concept many people stated. I feel EVERYONE likes the mongram (should read branded) stuff for the same reasons, they just use it in the different ways they can get away with. I feel plenty of both sides wear the branded stuff expecting it to carry a whole outfit, but that doesn't mean you can't wear the branded stuff and not have it carry the outfit as well. if you've got style, no matter where you're coming from it will always just be deeper, and you can just as easily remove the branding and the look still flys. Is a guy wearing the run of the mill "high-end" designer button up and trench coat with no branding more fashionable they Jadakiss wearing a $1200 leather polo vest, or Juelz wearing the Gucci madonna jacket that also have no branding? To me the answer is no. WITH THIS BEING SAID I just can't agree the more formal view IS BETTER.
THOUGHTS RELATING TO WHAT WAS SAID REGARDING EXAMPLES (RFX'S AND THE SEAN JOHN/GUCCI 1
I mean to me instead of pairing a logo belt with skinny jeans and a button up shirt, you can pair it with a pair of PRPS jeans, chrome hearts chain, and thermal and it can be just as good. I think any of the stuff by these fashion houses can be done ANY WAY, and as long as it has the right thought behind it its fashionable, because quite frankly everyone does not have to adhere to that formal lifestyle. Everything on every spectrum is just putting things together anyways, so put it together your own way BE FASHIONABLE AND YOU WILL SUCCEED
THOUGHTS ON HIGH END BEING A FAD NOW
I do see its current movement having very faddish qualities to it because quite frankly this post didn't really explode until fab became the gucci poster child about two years ago and kanye jumped ship on streetwear and polo. At the end of the day though if a person sticks with what they are doing in some way or another, not staying the same, but rather GROWING there Ideas of whats hot and why, fads become meaningless. I DO WHAT I LIKE AND WHETHER OTHERS DO IT OR NOT ITS HOLDS NO BEARING TO ME SO I NEVER FEEL IM IN TUNE WITH A FAD
CLOSING THOUGHTS
My biggest thing is that people just need to pump their brakes on these narrow views of whats hot, acceptable, whos doing it right or wrong because most people are not standing at the cross roads of it all. Its generally just I do it this way they do it that way and their way isnt as good because I don't do it that way. I always fnid it funny because as far as the way people in this post show it I've never even really seen how they wear the stuff to even pass a judgement. It's hard for me to say what looks good what way if theres not examples, just pictures of shoes on top of boxes. Rappers are showing it one way, Kanyes showing it another, and then I feel no one visable is showing it a way that people here are takling about it so its hard to judge
I HOPE THAT CLEARS UP WHAT I SAID, ILL DOUBLE BACK IF I HAVE TO
I thought so but I wasn't sure.Originally Posted by RFX45
Originally Posted by houstonsnk
Thats the reason why it won't get too popular. There leathe is so soft tho. I have seen some belts at a couple of High End resell stores here my mom shops at. There were like $250.Originally Posted by RFX45
Originally Posted by curt2121
I pray to God that people don't try to ruin Hermes next. Some things just need to be left alone where they belong.
Hermes will be a bit difficult to get into, they do not have a big logo nor are they very creative/trend oriented with their stuff.
Now if NT all of a sudden start wearing nothing but $5,000 suits with $500 tie and a $5,000 briefcase and then you can start worrying.
It will still be exclusive to the rich as most of their items even has a long waiting list, at least those damn bags women seem to love.
That's actually pretty cheap compared to Ferragamo's.
Originally Posted by dmbrhs
There is no way that will happen.Originally Posted by curt2121
I pray to God that people don't try to ruin Hermes next. Some things just need to be left alone where they belong.