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Originally Posted by TheHealthInspector
Originally Posted by NobleKane
ofcourse its that serious. if the rrod could have a class action lawsuit and ea sports can have one why not this? they let peoples private info out....
let? you say that like a crime wasnt committed
of course theres lawsuits, bunch of opportunists that feel victimized
Originally Posted by TheHealthInspector
Originally Posted by NobleKane
ofcourse its that serious. if the rrod could have a class action lawsuit and ea sports can have one why not this? they let peoples private info out....
let? you say that like a crime wasnt committed
of course theres lawsuits, bunch of opportunists that feel victimized
Originally Posted by UnkleTomCruze
Originally Posted by And I Love It
No you are wrong. Sony was not storing the information how they were legally supposed to.Originally Posted by UnkleTomCruze
Sony is offering a service that you are under NO OBLIGATION TO SUBSCRIBE TO. You say they are collecting personal information, I say you're GIVING THEM personal information.
Where's the accountability on your part?
You don't have to be part of PSN. You really don't.
But you actively choose to, and in doing so you need to be aware of the liabilities associated with said action.
Should Sony be held accountable? Yes, to a certain extent.
But is it right to blame Sony, solely, for this? Absolutely not.
Why aren't the hackers (ANONYMOUS) being held accountable for this? Why haven't disgruntled subscribers to the PSN done something about the hackers who not only compromised the security of the network, but most likely also stole the "personal" info of subscribers for their own personal gain?
People honestly aint even looking at the big picture here. This is wayyyyy bigger than Sony, understand that.
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Any network that handles credit card information has to conform to PCI-DSS security specifications including never storing or transmitting that information in plaintext, and also submit their network to annual third party security auditing to prove it?
Sony stored your credit card numbers and everything in plain text. I am sure the hackers will get in trouble as well. But Sony was stupid and could have avoided this easily.
And where am I wrong?
You respond to my post/points as if I was arguing that Sony is not to be held accountable for this. This is not what I am saying.
The real villains here. The ones most responsible--sony is responsible too, but to a lesser degree--are the hackers. They're the folks who started this, and they're the very same folks who've likely stolen your personal info.
Hell to put things into greater perspective, let's remember how and why this all went down.
Why was Sony hacked in the first place?
Y'all/we created the very monsters that are terrorizing us now, and for what--free games.
Sony is the easy target, and that's why they're being sued. That's really what it boils down to. We're all too lazy and afraid and cheap to go after the real bad-guys here. Hell, we ARE the bad guys since the hackers hail from our ranks
Like I said earlier, this is bigger than Sony. That's why I am bothered by this.
See Sony can be regulated. Sony can be policed. Sony has to play by the rules or they'll be punished
Hackers don't. They are free to do w/e the hell they please with no consequences.
Who are you going to turn to when they decided to gang up on you?
Big picture y'all, big picture...
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How on earth is Sony liable/being held accountable when this is all happening because of some hackers? I'd honestly really like to know. ridiculous.
Originally Posted by UnkleTomCruze
Originally Posted by And I Love It
No you are wrong. Sony was not storing the information how they were legally supposed to.Originally Posted by UnkleTomCruze
Sony is offering a service that you are under NO OBLIGATION TO SUBSCRIBE TO. You say they are collecting personal information, I say you're GIVING THEM personal information.
Where's the accountability on your part?
You don't have to be part of PSN. You really don't.
But you actively choose to, and in doing so you need to be aware of the liabilities associated with said action.
Should Sony be held accountable? Yes, to a certain extent.
But is it right to blame Sony, solely, for this? Absolutely not.
Why aren't the hackers (ANONYMOUS) being held accountable for this? Why haven't disgruntled subscribers to the PSN done something about the hackers who not only compromised the security of the network, but most likely also stole the "personal" info of subscribers for their own personal gain?
People honestly aint even looking at the big picture here. This is wayyyyy bigger than Sony, understand that.
...
Any network that handles credit card information has to conform to PCI-DSS security specifications including never storing or transmitting that information in plaintext, and also submit their network to annual third party security auditing to prove it?
Sony stored your credit card numbers and everything in plain text. I am sure the hackers will get in trouble as well. But Sony was stupid and could have avoided this easily.
And where am I wrong?
You respond to my post/points as if I was arguing that Sony is not to be held accountable for this. This is not what I am saying.
The real villains here. The ones most responsible--sony is responsible too, but to a lesser degree--are the hackers. They're the folks who started this, and they're the very same folks who've likely stolen your personal info.
Hell to put things into greater perspective, let's remember how and why this all went down.
Why was Sony hacked in the first place?
Y'all/we created the very monsters that are terrorizing us now, and for what--free games.
Sony is the easy target, and that's why they're being sued. That's really what it boils down to. We're all too lazy and afraid and cheap to go after the real bad-guys here. Hell, we ARE the bad guys since the hackers hail from our ranks
Like I said earlier, this is bigger than Sony. That's why I am bothered by this.
See Sony can be regulated. Sony can be policed. Sony has to play by the rules or they'll be punished
Hackers don't. They are free to do w/e the hell they please with no consequences.
Who are you going to turn to when they decided to gang up on you?
Big picture y'all, big picture...
...
How on earth is Sony liable/being held accountable when this is all happening because of some hackers? I'd honestly really like to know. ridiculous.
Originally Posted by eteam o2
It should include all PSN users affected by the outage.
Originally Posted by eteam o2
It should include all PSN users affected by the outage.
Sony had laugable security, sony is very liable and this class action lawsuit is perfectly valid.Originally Posted by UnkleTomCruze
How on earth is Sony liable/being held accountable when this is all happening because of some hackers? I'd honestly really like to know.
I'm about as anti-corporation as the next anarchist, but comon, this is ridiculous.
A bank gets robbed by a bunch of armed thugs; in the process, customers of the bank lose online banking services. Do we now sue the bank for failing us?
Is this honestly where we're at as a society?
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Sony had laugable security, sony is very liable and this class action lawsuit is perfectly valid.Originally Posted by UnkleTomCruze
How on earth is Sony liable/being held accountable when this is all happening because of some hackers? I'd honestly really like to know.
I'm about as anti-corporation as the next anarchist, but comon, this is ridiculous.
A bank gets robbed by a bunch of armed thugs; in the process, customers of the bank lose online banking services. Do we now sue the bank for failing us?
Is this honestly where we're at as a society?
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