OFFICIAL Ye fka "kanYe West" x G.O.O.D. Music Thread - ¥$ (AKA YE X TY DOLLA SIGN) - VULTURES 2 (NOW AVAILABLE sorta)
- Sep 6, 2012
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Tbh.
When I found that Memories Fade sample, kinda knocked Coldest Winter off its pedestal for me.
Like dude just lifted that ish.
Still a banger though.
- Jul 11, 2006
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Late to this party, but two things I'd like to say:Boy stop.
This dumb **** been said on here several times and been proven wrong repeatedly.
Drake's been doing tapes since 06. Years before 808's.
And artists like Andre 3000, Cudi and several others, massive in their own right, had been on that as well.
Some of you are so focused on one artist you can't see the forest through the trees.
So I guess "ahead of it's time" is the term we use for an album no one really liked when it was out.....and that no one really checks for today either?
This dude really need to drop some new music to keep y'all occupied because y'all whylin' right now.
1. If you were really listening to Drake when his first 2 tapes dropped, you'd know he wasn't rapping/singing the way he does now until after 808s. He was more of the punchline rapper than he was the introspective/sensitive lyricist. He'd have a song or two singing yes, but it didn't sound like THIS. The aural echoey sound he's doing now, the types of things he talks about on every track... Even 40 admitted his production style is super influenced by Ye and 808s. In fact this was the reason Ye used to take shots at him. Cuz they jacked a style (that he himself appropriated and brought to rap.)
Drake even admitted admitted the influence Ye had on him: "In a 2009 interview, Drake cited West as "the most influential person" in shaping his own sound" http://www.mtv.com/news/1612262/drake-says-kanye-west-is-the-most-influential-person-on-his-sound
So Far Gone was a direct response to 808s. It even had beats off 808s on it...
2. As someone who was up on Cudi early from mutual friends, even before A Kid Named Cudi, I can tell you he was more influenced by Ye's sound than prob even he would like to admit.
The thing is though he worked on 808s and he was a big influence on Ye as well. I don't know that 808s becomes what it did if Cudi and all the other people he was listening to weren't around. So I'm not going to say 808s really influenced Cud's style.
I do think it made it marketable for him to all the way embrace the lane he was carving out though.
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I should add it's very possible that what Drake's doing right now is even better than 808s. So inspired or not he may have mastered that lane.
Depends on your tastes and opinion though, of course.
Depends on your tastes and opinion though, of course.
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Let me know... Do I still got time to grow... 
- Sep 23, 2012
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How do you deny the affect that 808's had on hip hop. AUTO TUNE WAS EVERYWHERE. T-pain did it and it was funny, kanye did it and people abused it to death.
- Sep 10, 2009
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@illphillip it's pointless man. The Love Below never happened in this thread.
- Jan 2, 2010
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The Love Below is better than 808's to me but 3000 was alone on a island with that sound. Nobody even touched it. When 808's dropped immediately I heard dudes using that style. 3000 probably influenced Kanye but that took like 5 years.
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- Sep 23, 2012
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The love below sounds nothing like 808's though 
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The love below sounds nothing like 808's though
That's not even close to the point but okay.
Y'all ****** have terrible understanding.
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- Sep 10, 2009
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True dat. But the Love Below making ballads, full on pop singing and weird whine-singing a viable option for full time rappers is what my point is but I think you get that.
- Sep 23, 2012
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That's not even close to the point but okay.
Y'all ****** have terrible understanding.
Then what were you trying to infer by mentioning the love below? Because an album about love with pop synths and hip hop bass lines isn't comparable to a whiny album about heartbreak with distorted vocals
- Jul 11, 2006
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Rappers were singing before that though... The Love Below wasn't the same lane as 808s. I get your point: a rapper makes an album with mostly singing. But that's really the only comparison to be made between that and 808s...
Singing or not 3 Stacks wasn't crying like a ***** on that the way 808s, Cudi, Drake, and The Weeknd were after.
The whole sound and feel of tLB was also totally different from 808s. You had people straight up denouncing Andre's album saying it wasn't even hip hop. No one said that about 808s.
Listen to Hey Ya then tell me what track on 808s sounds anything like that.
If you want to compare far left albums if anything The Love Below's reception was MUCH MORE like how Yeezus has been received.
Mainstream media, critics, and casual fans LOVE it meanwhile real hip hop heads and forum trolls initially hate it.
Then later (months to years) in hindsight they all claim they liked it, were down with it, and it changed the gam and influenced _______ whether or not they believed that when it initially dropped.
Just look at the way people talk about Yeezus, even in this thread, now that they've seen it live on tour as opposed to what they were typing in June 2013.
I feel like people have rewritten history on that Andre album.
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- Jun 21, 2010
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I'm the minority but I didn't like The Love Below then and I don't like it now. Respect to 3000 and rapping I think he is arguably top 5, but I just couldn't get into the love below. #FlameSuitActivate
Yeezus on release date was flames and will be in 2015. That's actually what I told my boys when they were dissing it. They'll understand yeezus in 2015.
Yeezus on release date was flames and will be in 2015. That's actually what I told my boys when they were dissing it. They'll understand yeezus in 2015.
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- Aug 6, 2012
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I wasn't in the thread when it came out so iono. But what makes Yeezus so great?
- Jul 14, 2007
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I'm the minority but I didn't like The Love Below then and I don't like it now. Respect to 3000 and rapping I think he is arguably top 5, but I just couldn't get into the love below. #FlameSuitActivate
Yeezus on release date was flames and will be in 2015. That's actually what I told my boys when they were dissing it. They'll understand yeezus in 2015.
it sucked
- Sep 10, 2009
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nako xl
You proving my point, honestly. TLB was WAY out there. I'm aware. That's what makes anything after it a result of seeing how out there a full time rapper could and would go.
- Sep 23, 2012
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Not sure what you guys are talking about with the love below. That's side of the CD is the reason white America ate up that album. It went Diamond and I promise you it wasn't from ghetto music or Morris Brown. What Andre did on that album was way more friendlier than 808's for the simple fact that there is another part of the album that's grounded in straight Organized Noise beats and typical Outkast. Kanye came off of a created beef with 50 and having his sound globally recognized to whining on tracks about how his heart has been broken in the course if one year. Very risky thing for him to do.
- Jan 8, 2006
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What's so risky about a breakup album in the 2000s? Marvin did the same ****, except better, decades before.
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- Jul 14, 2007
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Damn I forgot Marvin Gaye was a rapper
- Jan 8, 2006
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Oh, kanye was rapping on 808's? I thought it was auto-tune whining just a minute ago? Dude bit Here My Dear but in a *****y robot version.
You guys keep trying to make Ye more than who he is. He's not Prince, MJ or the Marvin of our generation. He inspired a lot of wack *** dudes to make more ****** music
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He's saying the fact that Kanye is a rapper, and to that point was only rapping, made it more of a risk. A singer singing about heartbreak isn't really anything to write home about. Kanye has an album where he's singing, pretty much exclusively, and he will never come out with an album like that again. It was a risk.
(Which is also why i'm confused about The Weeknd is being mentioned. He's a singer.)
(Which is also why i'm confused about The Weeknd is being mentioned. He's a singer.)
- Jan 8, 2006
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I mean, it's impactful for people that keep themselves in a strictly rap bubble. I don't think any musically sound people see this album as anything that has done anything special.
