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**Official USMNT Soccer Thread**
- Thread in 'Sports & Training' Thread starter Started by deepinthajeep,
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You missed the point entirely. The "best" team doesn't always win the trophy. A LOT has to go right for any team to make it to, and succeed in winning a cup final.
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I think Messi is gonna go off tonight, I hope not
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I think it's a flawed premise
Germany was a far superior team to argentina in the 2014 world cup final
having the best player on the pitch doesn't mean you have the superior side
which is why Portugal/Ronaldo haven't done that well internationally either
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The only premise is that anything can happen, being the superior team doesn't guarantee victory. Certainly nothing flawed about that.
Maybe I worded it poorly by saying "there's a reason Messi has no trophies," but again the only point was that being the favorite, like Argentina was for last year's Copa America, and the Copa America before that, means very little in the grand scheme of things. I certainly wasnt implying that Argentina were superior to Germany in 2014.
Portugal does poorly because they're not a great team, and their best player underperforms. Not a great recipe for succes. Argentina is a great team, but it's still very very difficult to win a major tournament as proven by their track record.
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I think you're being generous calling them a great team.. they're a good team
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If Argentina is only a good team then Portugal is straight *** cheeks and the USA should quit international football.
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To be honest I get why people think Messi is a great player and so is Ronaldo. Yeah Messi has won a boatload of championships at Barca, but to be the best in soccer, you have to win at the highest level which is with your national team. To me Messi cannot be called the greatest until he actually starts winning with Argentina. MARADONA has two World Cups, Messi nada. No copa Americas, no confederaciones, no world cups. When he does then and only then can put him up there with the GOD MARADONA
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I was impressed they made the world cup final in 2014 and beat the dutch.. and gotta give it to them for making it a game vs Germany in the final
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......I'm nervous
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Don't be, WE GOT THIS [emoji]133674693112[/emoji][emoji]133674693112[/emoji][emoji]133674693112[/emoji][emoji]133674693112[/emoji][emoji]133674693112[/emoji]
EddieDoyers
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USA will be fine
Pressure is on Argentina
Anyway as long as we don't lose 7-0 I will be happy with any close result
Pressure is on Argentina
Anyway as long as we don't lose 7-0 I will be happy with any close result
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3-2 USA
Kyle Beckerman smashes in the winner in extra time from 35 out
Kyle Beckerman smashes in the winner in extra time from 35 out
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John Brooks - The Sec. Of Defense
John "Cochran" Brooks.... The Defense
John "Cochran" Brooks.... The Defense
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see, as a fan, sure I just wanna see us put up a good fight and go down swinging......
but we are screwed if thats also the players mindset... If even one of the players out there has the mindset of "lets just not lost by too much", then we are in big big trouble.
These dudes gotta genuinely keep it in gear and believe that we will win (no pun intended)
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Where's the lineup at ? ...... Too much pride to bend over today! LETS GOOOO!!!!
DeadsetAce
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time to check out of work and head home to get in front of a TV. let's go 
2-1 good guys
2-1 good guys
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ummm Vegas has us as +780 underdogs..... if anyone is into online betting, mineaswell throw a few bucks our way
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So that means betting a dollar could get me 780??? **** it why not.
Also I'm assuming thats what that means cause I don't know how to read betting lines
Also I'm assuming thats what that means cause I don't know how to read betting lines
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ummm Vegas has us as +780 underdogs..... if anyone is into online betting, mineaswell throw a few bucks our way
So how much I get if I put down 100 and USA wins?
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Why not us.
Leggo.
-edit- my conversion skills are subpar at the moment
Leggo.
-edit- my conversion skills are subpar at the moment
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7800So how much I get if I put down 100 and USA wins?ummm Vegas has us as +780 underdogs..... if anyone is into online betting, mineaswell throw a few bucks our way
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Wondo.... ******* WONDO WHY
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Oh so betting a dollar only get's you 78...still **** it why not
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WHY THE **** IS WONDO STARTING
