Official Travis Scott x Jordan Thread ...

I'm almost 40 and had no idea people were free basing fentanyl at his concerts.
The fentanyl story is a farse.p
Well Dave and Kanye are literally two of the most revolutionary artists in their respective artistic spaces so it would take A LOT to see them getting cancelled. I’d say the closest we’ve come to someone on that level being cancelled is with Cosby, and even then, it was clear people turned their heads away from his behavior for literally decades, given how talented he was. Hell, there is a good chance that Michael Jackson diddled children but people still turned a blind eye to him when he was alive because of how talented he was and how massive his artistic achievements were.
I don't wanna derail the thread, but let's all remember we don't know for a FACT what happened in the cases of cosby, mj and r. Kelly. All we know is what we see on the msm, which i ALWAYS take with a grain of salt. NONE of us were there. I'm not saying they're guilty or innocent. I'm saying we know the msm is a bunch of liars, pushing agendas. We have to ALWAYS remember this! I do NOT trust them blindly about ANYTHING.
 
I'm 40 and I listen to travis. In a party setting, turning up with ladies, travis and pi'erre bourne are the vibes. That said, I'd never take my 8 or 11 year old sons to a travis concert or any concert by artists i listen to. Although kids listen to travis, probably bc of fortnite and jordan, it's adult music. The concepts and themes aren't for children.

Being 40 in '21 is a bit different from 40 year olds when we were kids. We are much younger old ppl in our generation, if that makes sense. Travis is not solely to blame for this, although he does have blood on his hands as well. In college, i was listening to 3-6 mafia bc i loved the frequency of the beats/production. Travis is the '21 hypnotize mindz from a production standpoint. Also, he has perfected autotune. From a sonic standpoint, travis is pretty much at the very top of the game. His production is so perfect, it doesn't even really matter how he raps or what he's saying.
40 the new 30 lol
 
The fentanyl story is a farse.p

I don't wanna derail the thread, but let's all remember we don't know for a FACT what happened in the cases of cosby, mj and r. Kelly. All we know is what we see on the msm, which i ALWAYS take with a grain of salt. NONE of us were there. I'm not saying they're guilty or innocent. I'm saying we know the msm is a bunch of liars, pushing agendas. We have to ALWAYS remember this! I do NOT trust them blindly about ANYTHING.
Definitely
 
The fentanyl story is a farse.p

I don't wanna derail the thread, but let's all remember we don't know for a FACT what happened in the cases of cosby, mj and r. Kelly. All we know is what we see on the msm, which i ALWAYS take with a grain of salt. NONE of us were there. I'm not saying they're guilty or innocent. I'm saying we know the msm is a bunch of liars, pushing agendas. We have to ALWAYS remember this! I do NOT trust them blindly about ANYTHING.
There's plenty of court testimony to read on Cosby and Kelly. You don't have to rely on the media.
 
These corporate sponsorships are the reason there were 9 year olds at the concert. Has nothing to do with irresponsible parents.
The parents were for sure irresponsible. A travis concert is NOT a place for a minor, PERIOD. There is no way around this. The sponsors, promoters, venue, etc. And travis all have to share in some bkame for this. I'd have NEVER taken my young sons to that concert just knowing the type of artist travis is. Not saying he's "bad," but it's for sure NOT for children. Not sure how anyone can argue this.

As we saw, the dad had his 9 year old on his shoulders and passed out. So if the dad is passed out, how can he protect his son when he falls? Even if he didn't pass out, a single man is no match for a crowd of 50k. Too many things could go terribly wrong beyond my control. I'd just have never done it under any circumstances. Like I said, I have an 8 and 11 year old son and I'd have laughed them out of the living room had they even thought about me taking them to such a place at their age. They have their whole lives to have such experiences. Definitely not necessary at that age.
 
There's plenty of court testimony to read on Cosby and Kelly. You don't have to rely on the media.
You really believe the court testimony of those women in the cosby case? I personally did not find them at all believable, but that's just me. Fake tears, fake emotion, etc. Stories not making sense or adfing up, etc. My discernment told me they are liars, but that's just me. One of his main accusers isn't even an actual woman! WTF!? Can't make this up....

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You really believe the court testimony of those women in the cosby case? I personally did not find them at all believable, but that's just me. Fake tears, fake emotion, etc. Stories not making sense or adfing up, etc. My discernment told me they are liars, but that's just me. One of his main accusers isn't even an actual woman! WTF!? Can't make this up....

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So you won't listen to the media or the actual accusers. Starting to think you just won't believe anything and instead believe what you want. All of then were lying?

And what do you mean by "not an actual woman"?
 
Way more people have died in plane crashes. Are parents irresponsible for taking kids on planes? How about taking them for a ride in a car?

I have no issue with the parent taking the kid to the concert. All up front and near the pit? I wouldn't, and he probably regrets it, but he was probably taking his kid to see his favorite artist and trying to make his kid happy. I have a hard time faulting him for that. At no point should a parent have to plan for his kid to possibly die at a concert.

Do you think this is a similar comparison? I would hope you're smarter than this. Obviously not.
 
Do you think this is a similar comparison? I would hope you're smarter than this. Obviously not.
It might not be exactly similar, but you did respond to a comment about people not dying at concerts using a link of 10 incident in history where people have died at concerts. Of course we know people can TECHNICALLY die at concerts, but that can be said of ANYWHERE AND ANYTHING. Your response implies that the risk of death should be expected or considered at concerts.
 
It might not be exactly similar, but you did respond to a comment about people not dying at concerts using a link of 10 incident in history where people have died at concerts. Of course we know people can TECHNICALLY die at concerts, but that can be said of ANYWHERE AND ANYTHING. Your response implies that the risk of death should be expected or considered at concerts.

Can I get a Mustang dad? Sure, because you can speed and be killed in a Kia too.

Catch your kid smoking weed. No problem, do it all you want, weeds never killed anyone.

Catch your kid having sex. No problem, AIDS isn't a death sentence and I'll help you take care of the baby. Herpes? Well you can take medicine for that.

No wonder we have so many messed up kids out here these days. Too many of you don't know how to be parents and instead try to be friends.
 
Do you think this is a similar comparison? I would hope you're smarter than this. Obviously not.
As far as people dying? Yes. It's extremely rare for someone to die at a concert. It happens, but it's not something you plan around to avoid. Thousands of kids have gone to a concert without incident. This wasn't the first parent that took his kid to a concert so blaming him is pretty gross.
 
Can I get a Mustang dad? Sure, because you can speed and be killed in a Kia too.

Catch your kid smoking weed. No problem, do it all you want, weeds never killed anyone.

Catch your kid having sex. No problem, you AIDS isn't a death sentence and I'll help you take care of the baby. Herpes? Well you can take medicine for that.

No wonder we have so many messed up kids out here these days. Too many of you don't know how to be parents and instead try to be friends.
Dude said "people don't die at concerts." You replied with a link showing "Top 10 concert mishaps and tragedies," CLEARLY in an attempt to illustrate that people do indeed die at concerts. I think we all knew he was speaking to the factual extremely low probability of death by concert. With your illustrated logic here, I could say the same about going to school, riding roller coasters, airplane travel, etc., all situations and experiences where death is an extremely low probability, and therefore isn't an expectation, and add links highlighting some top 10 tragedies in their respective fields.

What does my pointing that out have to do with this diatribe on AIDS, weed, speeding, or parenting?
 
What do you mean? Did some Corporae big wig provide the tickets? The parent is responsible for the child. That's how this works. At that age, the parent controls what that kid sees, hears, and goes to.
What I mean is if your kid can get a happy meal with Travis Scott’s face on it then you should be forgiven for assuming that your kid won’t die at one of his concerts.

Father of the year? Clearly not. But I think it’s wrong to place responsibility for the child’s death on the father.
 
What I mean is if your kid can get a happy meal with Travis Scott’s face on it then you should be forgiven for assuming that your kid won’t die at one of his concerts.

Father of the year? Clearly not. But I think it’s wrong to place responsibility for the child’s death on the father.

He failed his kid.

Ignorance is not a valid excuse. Also believing that a big corporation thats feeding your kid some of the most terrible quality and cheap processed food. Actually cares about your child’s well being outside of what toy they can add to a Happy meal to increase your chance of buying it is also wild.
 
This isn't a Tom Jones concert, where middle aged women throw their panties on stage. A parent should not allow their 9 year old kid at a Travis concert. When his fans are called ragers as one fan put it "because Trav is the best live performer and his concerts are literally insane. You can’t go to a concert and not rage. If you don’t leave with blood on you then did you even go?" Not to mention it was a standing only concert. It was basically a giant mosh pit with 50K fans. And if you still didn't know anything about his concerts before going, there's this documentary about Travis on Netflix that explains everything you need to know.
 
He failed his kid.

Ignorance is not a valid excuse. Also believing that a big corporation thats feeding your kid some of the most terrible quality and cheap processed food. Actually cares about your child’s well being outside of what toy they can add to a Happy meal to increase your chance of buying it is also wild.
I agree with many here that I wouldn’t let my kid attend the concert, especially since it’s not like it was a stadium seating type of situation, but just thousands of people standing in a general audience type of deal. But some of y’all are talking like he let his son play with a loaded gun. There was nothing even remotely or statistically dangerous or deadly about attending a concert, yet it’s his fault that his kid died in one of the most improbable and unlikely circumstances? That’s not on the dad one bit. Like I said, I definitely wouldn’t allow my kid to attend, even if I attended with them, but the reasoning wouldn’t be “because there’s a chance you’ll get killed son.”
 
Travis better settle soon. He's being sued along with Drake, Apple, Live Nation, and others for $750M by over 100 people.
 
Travis better settle soon. He's being sued along with Drake, Apple, Live Nation, and others for $750M by over 100 people.
That’s big company lawsuit money :wow::wow:

Is it $750 million each or $750 total between the parties.


Doubt they get all that most likely a Shoot for the moon, land in the starts type deal.
 
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