***Official Political Discussion Thread***

[aepps20]

Crooked Hillary planted da speechwriter to sabotage da Donald's campaign b

That's exactly what it was. Libbies trying to confuse us using plagiarism politics.

 

[SC kid]

washed?

according to what metric? its a dead heat with da media pile on of Trump... frankly im starting to think Trump gonna have ya sick come November.

btw, Donald Trump JR

awesome speech.

Really?

According to what barometer? Its a decesaed hotness for trump even after hillarys fbi "thing" frankly im starting to think hillary will have some of you ill come november.

Btw scott baio, :x

Scott baio

 

[rillo561]

Plagiarist politics

 

[rolaholic]

Antonio Sabato jr might be even worse than Scott Baio :x

 

[rillo561]

Yep, and apparently there's a gay scene out there of him

 

[ninjahood]

washed?

according to what metric? its a dead heat with da media pile on of Trump... frankly im starting to think Trump gonna have ya sick come November.

btw, Donald Trump JR

awesome speech.

What's your take on the plagiarism gate ninja? You been awfully quiet?

someone already fell on da sword for that, and let's keep it a hundred...you think that speech controversy was gonna change anybody supporting Trump? have we not learned from da Drake Quentin Miller meek mill drama?

Everyone knows da broad had help writing her speech, whoever helped her effed up. is that gonna sway anyone not to vote for Trump? nope. if anything all it did was give Trump extra media news cycles to dominate.

 

[rolaholic]

Yep, and apparently there's a gay scene out there of him

Of course...he's an immigrant as well

 

[wavycrocket]

someone already fell on da sword for that, and let's keep it a hundred...you think that speech controversy was gonna change anybody supporting Trump? have we not learned from da Drake Quentin Miller meek mill drama?

Everyone knows da broad had help writing her speech, whoever helped her effed up. is that gonna sway anyone not to vote for Trump? nope. if anything all it did was give Trump extra media news cycles to dominate.

I'm asking how YOU view it....and what are your thoughts on The Trump campaign not owning it....and essentially lying fit 48hrs

 

[SC kid]

Man dat chick coulda recited the lyrics to a limp bizkit song and it wouldnt sway trumps supporters.

At the end of the day tho its definitely not a positive thing.

 

[011781]

I need proof that Mrs Trump is actually a real human being...  

 

[ninjahood]

washed?

according to what metric? its a dead heat with da media pile on of Trump... frankly im starting to think Trump gonna have ya sick come November.

btw, Donald Trump JR

awesome speech.

Really?

According to what barometer?

left coverage..

2016
Donald Trump Jr. breaks out on national stage
His affirmation of his father and rousing speech spark speculation about his own political future.
By NICK GASS and BEN SCHRECKINGER 07/19/16 10:47 PM EDT Updated 07/20/16 11:53 AM EDT


Donald Trump Jr. delivered a powerful testimonial for his father on the second night of the Republican National Convention, casting him as an everyman who hasn’t forgotten his Queens roots while raising his own national profile on a high-stakes night.



Hours after the younger Trump cast the decisive New York delegation votes sealing his father’s nomination, he doubled down with the rousing speech. Trump Jr. has taken an active interest in his family’s first political campaign, making himself a crucial adviser along with his adult siblings, and the speech drew immediate suggestions that he should run for office himself.

“Perhaps Donald Trump Jr. should run? His speech was excellent,” tweeted politically active talk show host Montel Williams, a frequent critic of Trump Sr.

Despite an allegation of plagiarism that surfaced in the speech’s aftermath -- a line closely resembled one from a recent story in the publication, The American Conservative -- many other of Trump’s fiercest critics were won over by his performance. Conservative commentator Dana Loesch tweeted that the speech was “great.”

Former Barack Obama chief strategist David Axelrod, while criticizing the speech, conceded its widespread appeal. “However polished, a very political-sounding speech. Not sure attack dog is the role candidate's son should be playing,” he tweeted. But he admitted in a follow-up tweet, “In fairness, folks I respect had [positive] reaction to Don Jr., responding to his powerful speech as meaningful validation of his dad.”

Republican messaging guru Frank Luntz told POLITICO he found the speech — in which Trump's eldest son demonstrated natural ease at the podium — “authentic.”

Trump Jr. used the speech as a vehicle to personally vouch for his father as an executive. “You want to know what kind of president he'll be? Let me tell you how he ran his businesses, and I know because I was there with him by his side on job sites, in conference rooms from the time I could walk,” said Trump Jr., an executive vice president of The Trump Organization, on the second night of the Republican National Convention.

The Manhattan businessman “didn't hide out behind some desk in an executive suite,” he said.

“He spent his career with regular Americans. He hung out with the guys on construction sites, pouring sheet rock and hanging -- pouring concrete and hanging sheet rock,” Trump Jr. remarked, correcting himself after transposing words. “He listened to them and he valued their opinions as much and often more than the guys from Harvard and Wharton, locked away in offices, away from the real work.”

All of Trump’s grown children, with the exception of Eric Trump, attended the University of Pennsylvania, and Donald, his eldest son, and Ivanka Trump attended Wharton.

But, Trump Jr. insisted, his father has “recognized the talent and the drive that all Americans have.”

“He's promoted people based on their character, their street smarts, and their work ethic, not simply paper credentials,” Trump continued.

“To this day, many of the top executives in our company are individuals that started out in positions that were blue collar. But he saw something in them, and he pushed them to succeed. His true gift as a leader is that he sees the potential in people that they don't even see in themselves.”

Other executives might have overlooked such job candidates because their resumes did not “include the names of fancy colleges and degrees.”

“The potential that other executives would overlook because their resumes don't include the names of fancy colleges and degrees. I know he values those workers and those qualities in people because those are the individuals he had my siblings and me work under when we started out,” he said. “That he would trust his own children's formative years to these men and women says all you need to know about Donald Trump.” Trump continued, “We didn't learn from MBAs We learned from people who had doctorates in common sense.”

Americans, the eldest Trump son also promised, are “going to get” their country “back better than ever before.”

“I know we'll get it back because I know my father. I know that when people tell him it can't be done, that guarantees that he gets it done,” Trump said. “I know that when someone tells him that something is impossible, that's what triggers him into action.”

Drawing on the story of his father’s career as a real-estate developer, Trump remarked, “When people told him it was impossible for a boy from Queens to go to Manhattan and take on developers in the big city, rather than give up, he changed the skyline of New York.”

In a speech that went beyond the usual praise of his father, Trump laid out the stakes of the election against Hillary Clinton in stark terms.

"We're going to put Americans first -- all Americans," he said. "Not a special class of crony elites at the top of the heap."

Declaring his father a qualified and ready commander in chief, the eldest son of the Manhattan mogul finished on a personal note, referring to him as "my mentor, my best friend, my father, Donald Trump."

Trump Jr. apparently enjoyed the political spotlight. “That was intense,” he tweeted after leaving the stage. “What a rush.”

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/rnc-2016-donald-trump-jr-225856

right coverage..

 

[Belgium]

I'm asking how YOU view it....and what are your thoughts on The Trump campaign not owning it....and essentially lying fit 48hrs

Good luck with that, Ninja is allergic to giving a direct answer to a question

 

[crcballer55]

 

someone already fell on da sword for that, and let's keep it a hundred...you think that speech controversy was gonna change anybody supporting Trump? have we not learned from da Drake Quentin Miller meek mill drama?

Everyone knows da broad had help writing her speech, whoever helped her effed up. is that gonna sway anyone not to vote for Trump? nope. if anything all it did was give Trump extra media news cycles to dominate.

I'm asking how YOU view it....and what are your thoughts on The Trump campaign not owning it....and essentially lying fit 48hrs

It's politics. Lying is all a part of it. You know... Like saying a months old video incited the riots in Benghazi. Or if you like your plan, you can keep it. Or we're creating lots of good paying jobs.

Political speeches are plagiarized all the time. (and here)

 

[wavycrocket]

^^^^That deflection. I'm simply asking another NT'er his thoughts on a recent topic.

But carry on with the deflection

 

[whywesteppin]

The problem with the speech is not so much the plagiarism itself but how it got in there and how it was handled.

It seems clear that the campaign a) did not properly vet the speech ahead of time, b) was ill prepared to do damage control after.

But ninja is right. This isn't going to dissuade his supporters. Nothing really will. Even people Trump has openly and repeatedly insulted will still back him.

 

[wavycrocket]

Good luck with that, Ninja is allergic to giving a direct answer to a question

Ye'een lying

 

[noskey]

But ninja is right. This isn't going to dissuade his supporters. Nothing really will. Even people Trump has openly and repeatedly insulted will still back him.

See: the Muslim man on CNN last night. Sad, really.

 

[ninjahood]

someone already fell on da sword for that, and let's keep it a hundred...you think that speech controversy was gonna change anybody supporting Trump? have we not learned from da Drake Quentin Miller meek mill drama?

Everyone knows da broad had help writing her speech, whoever helped her effed up. is that gonna sway anyone not to vote for Trump? nope. if anything all it did was give Trump extra media news cycles to dominate.

I'm asking how YOU view it....and what are your thoughts on The Trump campaign not owning it....and essentially lying fit 48hrs

did Hillary get harmed by lying about Benghazi to her ardent left supporters? no..same thing goes for this speech...what are u looking for, moral outrage for sampled segments of a old speech? this is politics b, folks gonna get away with what they can get away with.

we talking about potential 1st lady speeches b..its like arguing source mic ratings with puff daddy albums.

da aide involved already took da bullet, Trump JR already hit a HR batting clean up, we already on to da next one.

 

[rillo561]

This whole convention is playing to the base that already decided to vote for Trump. They aren't trying to get the independent or undecided voter.

He only took responsibility after the cover up.

 

[crcballer55]

The problem with the speech is not so much the plagiarism itself but how it got in there and how it was handled.

It seems clear that the campaign a) did not properly vet the speech ahead of time, b) was ill prepared to do damage control after.

But ninja is right. This isn't going to dissuade his supporters. Nothing really will. Even people Trump has openly and repeatedly insulted will still back him.

It's been clear from the beginning that Trump doesn't have a well organized campaign. There have been SO many mistakes that would have sunk any other candidate (except Hillary) but he's played the bully and victim role so well that it doesn't really matter what he or his campaign do for some people.

 

[Mr.Guy]

washed?

according to what metric? its a dead heat with da media pile on of Trump... frankly im starting to think Trump gonna have ya sick come November.

btw, Donald Trump JR

awesome speech.

Trump is gonna get washed bro watch. Minorities, women, and independents aren't voting for Trump enough for him to win. I won't be sick if he wins I couldn't care less.

did Hillary get harmed by lying about Benghazi to her ardent left supporters? no..same thing goes for this speech...what are u looking for, moral outrage for sampled segments of a old speech? this is politics b, folks gonna get away with what they can get away with.

we talking about potential 1st lady speeches b..its like arguing source mic ratings with puff daddy albums.

da aide involved already took da bullet, Trump JR already hit a HR batting clean up, we already on to da next one.

I've never met a Domitian from the heights that's a repub.

 

[Belgium]

Like Trump himself has said: "I could shoot someone and not lose any voters"

 

[ninjahood]

I need proof that Mrs Trump is actually a real human being...  

 

[rillo561]

Donald Trump groped me in his daughter's bedroom: Jill Harth

http://www.newindianexpress.com/wor...room-Jill-Harth/2016/07/21/article3539389.ece

 

[crcballer55]

Like Trump himself has said: "I could shoot someone and not lose any voters"

Which is scary. Look at the alternate candidate. She was responsible for killing 4 people (one being a friend) and hasn't seen any wavering of support.

I wonder what it will take for people to actually stand up for what they believe in instead of blindly standing behind a person. All I'm hearing this week is that Republicans should unite behind Trump because he's their nominee. Why? He's a Democrat that ran on a handful of red meat issues to Republicans and won the nomination. He's HARDLY a conservative by any stretch of the imagination.