***Official Political Discussion Thread***

[rillo561]

 

[rolaholic]

Thought this was interesting...

@Taniel:
May 2008, NYT/CBS poll: 60% of Clinton backers say they'd vote Obama

May 2016, NYT/CBS poll: 72% of Sanders backers say they'd vote Clinton

 

[Nike Jordan]

Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it.

 

[gry60]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...hpid=hp_no-name_opinion-card-b:homepage/story

As Alexander Hamilton watched the French Revolution unfold, he feared in America what he saw play out in France — that the unleashing of popular passions would lead not to greater democracy but to the arrival of a tyrant, riding to power on the shoulders of the people.

This phenomenon has arisen in other democratic and quasi-democratic countries over the past century, and it has generally been called “fascism.” Fascist movements, too, had no coherent ideology, no clear set of prescriptions for what ailed society. “National socialism” was a bundle of contradictions, united chiefly by what, and who, it opposed; fascism in Italy was anti-liberal, anti-democratic, anti-Marxist, anti-capitalist and anti-clerical. Successful fascism was not about policies but about the strongman, the leader (Il Duce, Der Fuhrer), in whom could be entrusted the fate of the nation.

To understand how such movements take over a democracy, one only has to watch the Republican Party today. These movements play on all the fears, vanities, ambitions and insecurities that make up the human psyche. In democracies, at least for politicians, the only thing that matters is what the voters say they want — vox populi vox dei. A mass political movement is thus a powerful and, to those who would oppose it, frightening weapon. When controlled and directed by a single leader, it can be aimed at whomever the leader chooses. If someone criticizes or opposes the leader, it doesn’t matter how popular or admired that person has been.

What these people do not or will not see is that, once in power, Trump will owe them and their party nothing. He will have ridden to power despite the party, catapulted into the White House by a mass following devoted only to him.

And is a man like Trump, with infinitely greater power in his hands, likely to become more humble, more judicious, more generous, less vengeful than he is today, than he has been his whole life? Does vast power un-corrupt?

This is how fascism comes to America, not with jackboots and salutes (although there have been salutes, and a whiff of violence) but with a television huckster, a phony billionaire, a textbook egomaniac “tapping into” popular resentments and insecurities, and with an entire national political party — out of ambition or blind party loyalty, or simply out of fear — falling into line behind him

 

[rico x hood]

Bringing up facism should be included in Godwin's Law.

 

[thestranger]

sds

 

[leavemeglazzies]

Drumpf's strategy of paying women to lie about being raped just when it's established that he will be running against Hillary will ultimately backfire. People (the majority of the US population, not the ones who voted in the Republican primary) are not that dumb, and will see right through this and how obvious it is that the fact the the story is coming out now and not throughout all these years is Drumpf's attempt to lie his way to the presidency. The insults, mud throwing, racism and bigotry that worked for him in the Republican primary will not work in the general election. Sooner or later he will have to talk about issues the country is facing and that will be the downfall of Drumpf since all his solutions are either stupid or flat out fantasies that would never work in practice.

 

[wubalubadubdub]

He doesn't have to pay any women to say they were raped or harrased by clinton. I don't know why some of you think all of that is completely made up.

There's definitely an overlap of people who wanted those duke kids thrown in prison but completely discredit any woman speaking bad on bill. Doesn't mean she isn't much better on women's rights and i don't know if voters care, but bill has definitely been involved with nasty ****.

 

[ninjahood]

Bringing up facism should be included in Godwin's Law.

Its da editorial board, what you expect

 

[gry60]

Bringing up facism should be included in Godwin's Law.

Its da editorial board, what you expect

https://www.washingtonpost.com/post...-make-sure-you-know-what-youre-talking-about/

The best way to prevent future holocausts, I believe, is not to forbear from Holocaust comparisons; instead, it’s to make sure that those comparisons are meaningful and substantive

How about either of you produce a sound counter-argument to what has been said about your candidate?

 

[harlemtothebronx]

Hundreds upon hundreds of pages.

 

[deleted]

"SJW" and "Communism" should also be added to Godwin's law

 

[rolaholic]

On point

 

[blco02]

Shooting near the White House, everything is on lock down. But don't worry, no danger to the president who is hard at work-golfing.

 

[rillo561]

True, he should be out there patrolling the streets.

 

[RustyShackleford]

True, he should be out there patrolling the streets.

You ain't heard brah, besides being the Commanded in Chief, Head of State, Chief Diplomat, and Head of the Government, apparently he has to be Batman too

 

[rexanglorum]

Shooting near the White House, everything is on lock down. But don't worry, no danger to the president who is hard at work-golfing.

You guys do say that government should be run like a business. In most big businesses, the CEO is usually golfing by the afternoon so you guys should be thrilled at the president's business like approach to his job.

 

[blco02]

Or he could be doing his job? Wait to play ******* golf on the weekend.

 

[deleted]

Shooting near the White House, everything is on lock down. But don't worry, no danger to the president who is hard at work-golfing.

Thanks for letting us know who the real bad guy is in this situation

 

[blco02]

You guys do say that government should be run like a business. In most big businesses, the CEO is usually golfing by the afternoon so you guys should be thrilled at the president's business like approach to his job.

CEO's don't get paid with taxpayer dollars and aren't running the free world. Wait till the weekend Barry, the optics are bad.

 

[blco02]

I've struck a nerve here with the truth

 

[RustyShackleford]

The only people that are upset by this are hardcore conservatives that are offended by everything Obama does

 

[rexanglorum]

CEO's don't get paid with taxpayer dollars and aren't running the free world. Wait till the weekend Barry, the optics are bad.

The CEO's of big banks are getting paid at the expense of the public and they do get to run parts of the government. In any case, you're missing the point. You guys say that government should be run like a business so what is so wrong with the CEO of the Federal Government golfing? That is what most CEO's do and you guys want the President to be more like a CEO.

 

[aepps20]

Brownie you doing a heck of a job b.

 

[rillo561]

Wasn't Bush reading to school children when the towers got hit?

Wasn't Bush on vacation at some ranch when katrina hit?

I know, It's probably the liberal media again. Only one side get held to the higher standard.