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There's a difference of opinion in these articles.

https://www.golfdigest.com/story/how-good-is-donald-trump-the-golfer says he's pretty good.

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport...-magazine-patently-unbelievable-a7997606.html this says he's not nearly as good as he says and has the stats to back it up. Particularly damning is the comparison to an all time great at the same age - who was posting similar scores.

My grandfather was a good golfer and his goal was always to beat his age - and he never quite managed it. Trump shooting a 73 would be impressive, and it's probably accurate to say that it's at least unlikely.

73 from the girls tees maybe.
 
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Why the hell would John Kerry attempt another run?
Kerry didn't even say he would run.

They asked him about potentially running in 2020, and Kerry said people should focus on the Midterms, that he is focused on activism, and talking about 2020 is a waste of time and a distraction.

Since he didn't "rule it out" it became a story. Kerry gave the proper answer, liberals need to focus on what is right in front of them, the Midterms.
 
https://www.businessinsider.com/put...aines-poroshenko-france-hollande-book-2018-9?


Putin made a telling blunder in a shouting match with Ukraine's president, France's Hollande says
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  • Russian President Vladimir Putin became enraged and conspicuously blundered during the 2015 Minsk Agreement talks with Ukraine, according to a book by former French President Francois Hollande.
  • Russia illegally annexed Crimea from Ukraine in 2014.
  • The US, EU, and other observers say Russia has slyly used non-uniformed soldiers posing as Ukrainian separatists to stoke a war there for years.
  • But when Putin was arguing with Ukraine's president, he appeared to slip up and admit he had troops in Ukraine.
  • He made a number of other embarrassing blunders at the meeting too, Hollande writes.


Russian President Vladimir Putin became so enraged during a shouting match with Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko that he revealed he was lying about Russia's role in a military uprising in eastern Ukraine, former French President Francois Hollande wrote in a book about his time in office.

In 2014, Russia illegally annexed Crimea from Ukraine and began to support separatists in the eastern part of the country through information warfare, direct shipments of weapons, and by deploying non-uniformed Russian fighters posing as Ukrainians.

Experts watching the campaign, which Russian said was not its doing, branded it a new form of conflict called "hybrid warfare." The strategy involves multi-domain fighting, economic pressure, and total distortion of facts on the ground.

But in a heated argument with Poroshenko at the 2015 talks to form the Minsk Agreement, a document that sought to end the conflict but which Russia has yet to implement, Putin became so angry he reportedly tripped himself up himself.


"Poroshenko and Putin constantly raised their voices with each other. The Russian president was so worked up, that he started threatening to decisively crush his counterpart's forces," an excerpt from Hollande's 2018 book "The Lessons of Power" reads, as UAWire.org notes.

"This showed that there are Russian troops in eastern Ukraine. Putin suddenly realized, and got a grip on himself," Hollande wrote.

But even after Putin got ahold of himself, his narrative continued to unravel, Hollande wrote.

In Minsk, Poroshenko asserted Ukraine's sovereignty as its leader. Putin would not admit to leading the separatist forces, and constantly had to frame his contributions to the conversation as speculation on what the separatists might say, if they were there.

Hollande wrote that Putin tried to delay the ceasefire between the fighting sides for weeks. When Hollande and Poroshenko brought up that Russia had been sanctioned as result of the fighting, and not a nebulous group of unnamed fighters, Putin "pretended not to understand or not to hear what we were saying."


"At seven in the morning after a sleepless night," both sides finally struck a deal that Putin could agree to. But Putin, maintaining he wasn't in control of the separatists, had to run off, Hollande wrote.

"Suddenly Putin said that he needed to consult with the separatist leaders. Their emissaries were in Minsk too. Where exactly? In some hotel or in an office neighboring ours? At least we didn't see them," wrote Hollande.

To this day the crisis in eastern Ukraine continues, with more than 10,000 dead so far. Russia still denies any official involvement in the fighting and remains under the sanctions imposed in 2014
 
How dare the DOJ indict 2 GOP congressmen and hurt the GOP's midterm chances :smh:
Disgusting behavior from Sessions, doesn't he understand they're supposed to be on the same team? /s


http://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...ssions-over-investigations-into-gop-lawmakers
Trump blasts Sessions over criminal charges against GOP lawmakers
President Trump on Monday slammed Attorney General Jeff Sessions over criminal charges brought against two Republican congressmen in recent weeks, suggesting that the Department of Justice (DOJ) had endangered GOP hopes of retaining both seats in the November elections.

The president was referencing charges against Reps. Chris Collins (R-N.Y.) and Duncan Hunter (R-Calif.), both of whom were early supporters of Trump.

The Justice Department charged Collins early last month with securities fraud and lying to the FBI about his efforts to tip off family members with nonpublic stock information to help them avoid hundreds of thousands of dollars in investment losses.

Collins, the first member of Congress to endorse Trump in the 2016 election, has professed his innocence, but suspended his reelection campaign. The insider trading allegations against him are from last year.

Weeks later, the DOJ charged Hunter and his wife, Margaret Hunter, with misusing $250,000 in campaign funds, and falsifying campaign records to the Federal Election Commission to conceal the purchases.

Hunter allegedly used campaign funds to pay for his family's dental work, his children's tuition, international travel for nearly a dozen relatives, fast food, golf outings and more.
The California congressman echoed Trump in his vow to fight the charges, claiming the DOJ has a "political agenda."

The president added in a tweet Monday afternoon that Democrats "must love" Sessions in the wake of the charges, likening his popularity to former FBI Director James Comey, whom Trump fired last year.

Trump also inaccurately claimed no Democrats voted to confirm Sessions, when Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.) did vote in Sessions's favor.

Trump's Labor Day attacks on Sessions mark the latest escalation in an already fraught relationship between the two men.

The president has become increasingly outspoken in his criticism of Sessions, saying the attorney general should have pushed to prosecute Democrats.

Trump told Bloomberg in an interview on Thursday that Sessions will remain in his job at least until the November midterm elections. The president declined to comment when asked if he would keep his attorney general on beyond that.

The president has repeatedly voiced frustration over Sessions's decision early last year to recuse himself from the investigation into Russian interference, stating that he would not have nominated the former Alabama senator for the job if he knew Sessions was going to do so.

During an interview late last month with Fox News, Trump claimed he only appointed Sessions, a key member of his campaign, because he “felt loyalty.”

He went on to blame the attorney general for failing to crack down on “corruption” at the Justice Department, and suggested Sessions was turning a blind eye to Democratic misdeeds.

In a rare rebuke of the president, Sessions said in a statement that he would “not be improperly influenced” by political pressure.
 
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This some special ****
I don’t think folks realize
Nike standing up for ck
Like what it actually means
 
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