***Official Political Discussion Thread***

[elpablo21]

 

[milestailsprowe]

How do you purposely meet with a Spy as a non government official to get dirt on a political figure and NOT go to jail? That should be a one way pass to super max unless you have a damn good reason

 

[blastercombo]

How do you purposely meet with a Spy as a non government official to get dirt on a political figure and NOT go to jail? That should be a one way pass to super max unless you have a damn good reason

Not all people who do that are bad people?

 

[plansb]

 

[dreamer23]

well damn...

 

[Belgium]

How do you purposely meet with a Spy as a non government official to get dirt on a political figure and NOT go to jail? That should be a one way pass to super max unless you have a damn good reason

Idk if that's necessarily illegal. Obviously the intent is there to obtain stolen information about a political rival from a hostile foreign government but I'm not sure what crime that would fall under, if any.
When a meeting is proposed to you by a Russian lawyer with direct ties to Russia's crown prosecutor and they offer to provide stolen emails on a candidate as part of the Russian government's support, responding at all is a sign of intent. Much less actually going through with the meeting, regardless of what was or wasn't delivered. It's a bit like taking up an offer to buy a load of drugs, whether or not the seller delivers you're there to buy drugs.


Speaking of Russia, Putin must be doing a victory lap in the Kremlin right now.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...p-amid-trade-dispute-iran-split-idUSKCN1IH1OH
EU's Tusk asks: 'With friends like Trump, who needs enemies?'
U.S. President Donald Trump has “rid Europe of all illusions” by quitting the Iran nuclear deal and driving trade disputes, the European Union chairman said on Wednesday, underlining the depth of trans-Atlantic discord.

The 28 worried EU leaders are gathering in the Bulgarian capital for discussions over dinner on Wednesday on how to salvage the nuclear deal and European business dealings with Iran from Trump’s sanctions and how to avoid a trade war in an escalating tariff dispute with the United States.

Tusk said the EU must be more united than ever before to deal with what he called Trump’s “capricious assertiveness”.

“Looking at the latest decisions of President Trump, someone could even think: With friends like that, who needs enemies?” Tusk told a news conference.

“But frankly speaking, Europe should be grateful to President Trump. Because thanks to him we have got rid of all illusions. He has made us realise that if you need a helping hand, you will find one at the end of your arm.”


European leaders are troubled by Trump’s “America first” rhetoric and inconsistent statements on NATO and the EU. Trump’s decision to pull out of the Paris climate change accord and the 2015 nuclear deal with Iran threaten Europe’s own foreign policy, which was long complementary to Washington’s.

“Europe must do everything in its power to protect, in spite of today’s mood, the transatlantic bond. But at the same time we must be prepared for those scenarios, where we will have to act on our own,” said Tusk, a former Polish prime minister.

Trump’s moving of the U.S. Embassy in Israel to Jerusalem this week has also upset many in Europe, though the EU has failed to condemn the move squarely due to opposition from the Czech Republic and Hungary, which are strongly pro-Israel.


TRANS-ATLANTIC CHILL

French President Emmanuel Macron has tried to charm Trump but that failed to prevent Washington last week from abandoning the Iran deal, which seeks to curb Tehran’s nuclear program in exchange for sanctions relief.

Speaking to lawmakers in Paris on Wednesday, France’s junior minister for Europe, Jean-Baptiste Lemoyne, said the U.S. behavior meant it was time that Europe stood up for itself.

“The extra-territorial dimension of U.S. sanctions is unacceptable. We must develop our economic sovereignty now. It’s a moment of truth for Europe,” he said.

German Chancellor Angela Merkel has strongly backed efforts to develop a collective European approach towards Trump’s unilateralism but she told the lower house Bundestag on Wednesday she remained determined to support trans-Atlantic relations.

The EU and the United States have traditionally been the closest of allies, working together also via NATO. But Trump has also lambasted his European peers for not spending enough on defense, raising doubts among many in Europe about his commitment to NATO and Europe’s broader security.

“The broader U.S.-EU security relationship is at risk,” a former U.S. envoy to the EU, Anthony Gardner, told the European Parliament on Wednesday.

 

[RustyShackleford]

well damn...

But has he been arrested doe?

If not, I'll have my nothing burger well done please. With some extra "Miss me wit that BS" sauce.

 

[Based Jesus]

I'm 1000% sure absolutely nothing will come from this

 

[Nike Jordan]

Going home while Black.

 

[Belgium]

https://www.thedailybeast.com/kreml...mp-in-2016-says-senate-intelligence-committee
‘Kremlin Used’ NRA to Help Trump in 2016, Says Senate Judiciary Committee
Russians used the pro-gun group to reach out to Trump, and possibly finance the campaign.

The Senate Judiciary Committee said Wednesday that the Russian government apparently used the National Rifle Association to help Donald Trump’s presidential campaign in 2016.

Documents suggest the Kremlin used the NRA to offer the campaign a back channel to Moscow—including a potential meeting between Trump and Vladimir Putin—and might have secretly funded Trump’s campaign, the committee said. One of the Russians named in the report even bragged she was part of the Trump campaign’s communications with Russia, The Daily Beast reported last year.

The NRA spent a record $30 million on Trump and the FBI is reportedly investigating whether any of the money came from Russia. U.S. law prohibits foreign money to be spent on elections.

Two Russian nationals figure prominently in the alleged scheme: Alexander Torshin, deputy governor of the Kremlin’s central bank, and his then-deputy Maria Butina.

Torshin met Donald Trump Jr. at the NRA’s 2016 convention in Tennessee and hosted an NRA delegation in Moscow in 2015. Torshin was previously accused by Spanish investigators of laundering money for Russian mobsters, an allegation he denied. (Last month he was sanctioned by the U.S.)

Butina founded a pro-gun group in Russia before coming to the United States in 2015 when she immediately began ingratiating herself in conservative circles. Butina started a business with NRA member and GOP activist Paul Erickson.


In May 2016, the same month Torshin met Trump Jr. at the NRA convention, Erickson emailed a Trump advisor about setting up a meeting between the candidate and Putin.

https://www.feinstein.senate.gov/pu...18.05.15-transcript-release-findings-9-am.pdf

 

[rillo561]

I think it's proven he did left that off purposely. It's a joke how this guy is treated with kid gloves.

 

[elpablo21]

 

[MalcolmNewton]

Wake me up when he takes a mug shot. Too early to get all giddy.

 

[the qbz]

Going home while Black.

He got arrested for using big word in the wrong context

Contexting while black

 

[hipstermike]

It feels like when dems are in power, the gop's only purpose is to stop all their attempts at anything and prosecute them for any little thing they feel they could potentially prosecute for while the dems just try to work. Then the same thing happens while the gop is in power.

 

[Majorbread]

just saw this on the tl



delicious

 

[IATT]

 

[blastercombo]

These guys are rich and white. Nothing is going to happen except more unprotected sex with hookers

 

[IATT]

These guys are rich and white. Nothing is going to happen except more unprotected sex with hookers

 

[the qbz]

These guys are rich and white. Nothing is going to happen except more unprotected sex with hookers

Who wears protection during golden shower

Kinda kills the experience



Allegedly

 

[blastercombo]

Who wears protection during golden shower

Kinda kills the experience



Allegedly

A friend told me you take it on and off as needed. A friend

 

[ksteezy]

Went to Wholefoods to buy some grade A organic meat for these NothingBurgers I’m about to cook up tonight..

 

[Belgium]

Seems like the floodgates opened today, lot of developments.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/powe...4a123c359ab_story.html?utm_term=.530a5cdc5698
Russia favored Trump in 2016, Senate panel says, breaking with House GOP
The Senate Intelligence Committee has determined that the U.S. intelligence community was correct in assessing that Russia interfered in the 2016 presidential election with the aim of helping then-candidate Donald Trump, contradicting findings House Republicans reached last month.

“We see no reason to dispute the [intelligence community’s] conclusions,” the committee’s chairman, Sen. Richard Burr (R-N.C.), said Wednesday in a joint statement with its vice chair, Sen. Mark R. Warner (D-Va.), who added: “Our staff concluded that the ... conclusions were accurate and on point. The Russian effort was extensive, sophisticated, and ordered by President Putin himself for the purpose of helping Donald Trump and hurting Hillary Clinton.”

This marks the second of four interim findings the intelligence committee has said it will publicize before tackling the more consequential question of whether Trump and his associates colluded with Russia to influence the election’s outcome, allegations the president has denied and sought to discredit. The committee, which earlier this month released related findings on election security, is expected to publish a comprehensive final report this fall.

Wednesday’s announcement comes amid growing Republican scrutiny of the investigation led by special counsel Robert S. Mueller III, whose team also is examining whether Trump’s campaign coordinated with the Kremlin and if the president obstructed justice in a bid to limit the probe’s scope.

The Senate committee’s findings clash with the House GOP’s determination that the intelligence community did not follow its own best practices in concluding the Kremlin favored Trump in the election. The dispute — and the questions it now raises about which record of events is most accurate — could complicate the Republican Party’s messaging heading into the 2018 election season.

Trump has taken umbrage at the intelligence community’s determination that the Kremlin favored his candidacy over Clinton’s. The president cheered the House Intelligence Committee’s report, claiming on Twitter that it vindicated him by finding there was no evidence his campaign colluded with Russia.

Although the Senate Intelligence Committee has yet to weigh in on the collusion allegations, Burr and Warner have hinted for days that their panel’s interim findings on the intelligence community would depart from those reached by Republicans on the House Intelligence Committee. “I’m not sure that the House was required to substantiate every conclusion with facts,” Burr told reporters last week, promising the Senate panel would “have the facts to show for” its conclusions.

Warner said Monday that, “Everyone that we’ve ever had testify still stands by the full findings of the ICA,” referring to the intelligence community’s assessment. “We’ve had all the Obama officials, we’ve had all the Trump officials. Every person,” he added.

Asked Wednesday about the discrepancy between the two panels’ conclusions, Rep. Devin P. Nunes (R-Calif.), the House Intelligence Committee’s chairman said: “That’s nice.” He declined to elaborate. Nunes, who became the subject of an ethics inquiry last year, delegated day-to-day oversight of the panel’s Russia investigation to Rep. K. Michael Conaway (R-Texas) but remained peripherally involved, approving subpoenas and other related actions.

Conaway’s office did not immediatley repond to a request for comment.

House Democrats, who roundly disagreed with the House GOP’s findings, praised the Senate Intelligence Committee’s conclusions. Rep. Adam B. Schiff (D-Calif.), the House intelligence panel’s ranking member, said in a statement that he “fully concur with the conclusion of the bipartisan leaders of the Senate Intelligence Committee that the ICA’s determination that Russia sought to help the Trump campaign, hurt Hillary Clinton and sow discord in the United States is fully supported by the evidence.”

On Wednesday, Senate Intelligence Committee members met in closed session to discuss their findings with former Director of National Intelligence James R. Clapper Jr., former CIA director John Brennan, and former National Security Agency director Adm. Mike Rogers. None has wavered from the conclusions about Russian interference in the election, according to senators who were in the room.

Former FBI director James B. Comey had also been invited to testify about the findings to the panel, but did not attend.

 

[IATT]

 

[blastercombo]

This is all really bad in the eyes of anyone of any intelligence level but the reality is his backers don’t care. They’ve backed known pedo’s with zero hesitation.