elpablo21
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Well everything is getting dumber by the second here so we might as well get used to it.
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We've been there before:
How public attitudes of Martin Luther King Jr. have changed since the 1960s
About eight-in-ten American adults (81%) say civil rights leader Martin Luther King Jr. has had a positive impact on the United States.www.pewresearch.org
From the archives: 50 years ago, mixed views about civil rights but support for Selma demonstrators
In 1965, America’s verdict on Selma was clear: Polling showed the public clearly siding with the demonstrators, not with the state of Alabama.
Change is scary; rapid change is scarier. The masses will respond accordingly.
MLK the man had various waxing and waning of popularity but civil rights movement was popular.
Civil rights was a case of a broadly popular movement overcoming minoritarian interests.
people have rid themselves of this "arc of history bends towards justice" naivete. There is no guarantee that your political and social preferences will just magically win out over time.
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aepps20
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OUR PRESIDENT ELECT SAVED COOKING WITH KIYA LFGGG
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The civil rights movement was popular in principle (hence high support for the law), until folks saw what it would take to actually make everybody enjoy the same rights (enforcement).
And sentiment kinda soured.
It's the same with housing, trans rights, or any other kind of issue that challenges our existing social/economic structure. It's very easy to express support for marginalized groups in the abstract. It's the enforcement part of the law that separates those who actually support them from those who are indifferent to their fate.
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The Civil Rights movement was so popular none of its most prominent figures were killed or incarcerated. Abolition was also very popular since americans had fallen for misinformation about the slave industry. Misinformation that is thankfully now being rectified in texas textbooks.
atlsfinest
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Nelly should have just said "the check cleared" instead of trying to normalize Trump and say Joe Biden is the real racist
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TikTok
A great source of information/misinformation and 20v1s
A great source of information/misinformation and 20v1s
aepps20
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Will Nelly perform Tip Drill for da degenerates?
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again you are just acting like this is all gravity and fated to happen, its not.
sentiment soured after his death partially because of the violent protests that erupted post MLK assassination.
actions matter, nothing is inevitable.
its not all the same. all those issues race, sex, gender, are wildly different and have wildly different political trajectories.
you want to say its the same because it absolves you from actually reckoning with public opinion and on the ground politics.
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It clear that the Democratic parties grip on low trust men of color is weakening.
i don't how to win them back,
but I don't think it will be via scolding.
i don't how to win them back,
but I don't think it will be via scolding.
atlsfinest
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Democrats really gave Trump a layup by giving him an opportunity to become a hero. He's going to look even better among young voters because now Trump will be known as the man who saved the TikTok (Even though Trump is the same guy who initially thought of the TikTok ban in the first place).
Democrats are really lost in the wilderness until they find better leadership.
Democrats are really lost in the wilderness until they find better leadership.
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Nike Jordan
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It's January 2025.
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All these "The Dems goofed and handed Trump an easy win" arguments just seem lazy when you consider what lead to this.
Again in practice what people are saying is "The Dems should have dropped support all for Ukraine and Taiwan because they should have predicted that Trump would have won the election, with a swing in young voters no one saw coming, and eventually flip flopped on the issue after ByteDance cut a deal with him over dinner"
Again in practice what people are saying is "The Dems should have dropped support all for Ukraine and Taiwan because they should have predicted that Trump would have won the election, with a swing in young voters no one saw coming, and eventually flip flopped on the issue after ByteDance cut a deal with him over dinner"
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Air Champa
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"show proof that Trump is a white supremacist"
As if any amount of proof would change his mind. Ninety nine out of a hundred times when somebody ask for proof of something, they'll just stick their heads in the sand when they get it.
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Getting a "Get Out" vibe from this, with the algorithm standing in for the mansion.
Birtherism
Central Park 5
Mexicans aren't sending their best
The Muslim ban
Sure Nelly, he's a changed man...
Biden gave billions to HBCUs and gave $300/month/child to low to middle income families, but I see Trump's $250 million to HBCUs and a single $1200 stimulus check for months of quarantine weigh more.
Go get your paper and stop treating people like fools
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This **** was so predictable im shocked the Simpsons didnt announce it first 
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my post has nothing to do with fate.
I was just pointing out that public opinion is not always in line with what's right.
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"The Dems should just ignore the laws for feel good outcomes"
Trump disregards a Supreme Court decision and gets praise. What the **** is wrong with this young generation?
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When you understand that Trump is an agent….thats doing the service of BRICS & Oligarchs…..everything is crystal clear
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Heard Trump saved Tik Tok by Executive Action?
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Part of the law said the President can delay the ban for 90 days if ByteDance as a buyer and is the process of divesting. So basically the President can give an extension to get a sale done.
Trump annouced he will sign such an executive order on Monday, so ByteDance is thanking him.
They still have to sell the company in 90 days, they probably have to annouce who they are selling to this week, or ease the ban goes into affect.
He can't save it by strictly executive actions, esepcially today, when he is not even president yet.
Right now, it is just an extension
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I'm are sure all the cryto bros that whined about Pelosi for years will be totally cool with this...
Trump will let cryto markets be a ****show, to enrich himself.
And if companies and foreign governments a method to pay him off
Trump will let cryto markets be a ****show, to enrich himself.
And if companies and foreign governments a method to pay him off
