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People hate liberals…but they should REALLY hate white liberals to lending credibility to this POS.
One of the worst and most dangerous people in politics. Just a shameful dude.
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Gavin is a little too smug for his own good.The appeal of Biden and Trump is that they could win a large enough majority of the most politically favored (unfairly) voting bloc. Midwestern voters, especially white men.
Like if we are throwing names out there, I think it is wise to at least know why they would be a good candidate.
Newsom seems like he would not be that great.
Is kamala going to act in as pres while he recovers?
What's your beef with Newsom? As a CA resident, I think he has done a good job. He seems to listen to his voters and for the most part, he's been making the right moves. But like any other person, he's definitely not perfect.The appeal of Biden and Trump is that they could win a large enough majority of the most politically favored (unfairly) voting bloc. Midwestern voters, especially white men.
Like if we are throwing names out there, I think it is wise to at least know why they would be a good candidate.
Newsom seems like he would not be that great.
I don't have a beef with him. I think he has been a good governorWhat's your beef with Newsom? As a CA resident, I think he has done a good job. He seems to listen to his voters and for the most part, he's been making the right moves. But like any other person, he's definitely not perfect.
Nobody in the country really wants anything to do with California except people in California. No offense it’s just the stereotype.
Why don't you think he'll make a good presidential candidate?
I believe that he is more appealing to the democratic base than Biden.
Republican Party pulled out of debatesI just want him to run so he can get petty with DeSantis during the debates lol
Of course Biden would have blown him out in 2020. Biden was way more popular and Newsom didn't start getting wildly known until around that time Biden would've won in 2016 as well had he ran.To win the presidency, the Democratic base is not enough. He has to win a ton of independents as well. I don't Newsom does anywhere close to as good with white men as Biden did also.
If Newsom ran in 2020, Biden would have blown him out with ease. Seems to me the main reason people are throwing his name out there is because inflation and Joe Manchin are screwing over Biden so bad, and has made up so unpopular, people think there should be a new candidate in 2024. Newsom as made himself some sort of left wing DeSantis. A powerful high profile governor that seems like the better choice than running the old embattled party leader.
Ok I get that.
But on paper, Newsom just doesn't seem uniquely appealing.
I don't think Newsom can win the Dem primary unless the party all choose to support him from the jump.
Remember how this line of thinking played out when it came to Hillary?Of course Biden would have blown him out in 2020. Biden was way more popular and Newsom didn't start getting wildly known until around that time Biden would've won in 2016 as well had he ran.
However, I disagree with him not doing good with white male independents. I mean, if they voted for Pres Obama, anything is possible.
But that's still subjective. I also think the key would be getting the younger voters out to vote, which I think Newsom has the appeal to do.
I am also not referring to him running in 2024. yeah, I am fully aware of how Manchin and Sinema has railroaded Bidens agenda.
The reality is, no matter who the dems nominee is, they are going to need a dem congress to get anything done. We already know the repubs aren't going to work with anyone.
Hillary just didn't appeal to the young voters. They saw her as an out of touch old lady.Remember how this line of thinking played out when it came to Hillary.
Putting electoral hopes on young voters just seems like a bad idea to me.
The bloc just doesn't vote at a rate high enough to protect the Dems if they underperform else where.
Why don't you think he'll make a good presidential candidate?
I believe that he is more appealing to the democratic base than Biden.
If Hillary match Biden's splits with independents, she would be president. Turning out your base and convincing swing voters are the two most important. But I don't think her lost can mainly be put on her lack of appeal with young voters.Hillary just didn't appeal to the young voters. They saw her as an out of touch old lady.
Dude you are using one of the best political talents in modern history to argue that Newsom would be appealing.Also, I am not putting all hope on the young voters. What I am simply implying is that, if he can get a decent amount of independents and appeal to young voters to get out to vote, then he'll be good. Same thing Obama had to do. One complaint that we see from younger voters is that candidates seem old and out of touch. Newsom doesn't come off as out of touch. At least from what I've seen.