OFFICIAL NFL THREAD 2024-25: Week XVI “Merry Christmas ya filthy animals”

Yeah Ravens have been a mess all season. They have an incredible offense with Lamar and Henry but Orr is a terrible DC and have the 2nd worst pass defense in the league. Not to mention losses to the Browns and Raiders lol Not to mention that Justin Tucker is clearly washed and nobody, including Harbs/Lamar, wants to admit it.

So his defense sucks, his kicker sucks and his HC sucks but he’s winning games and has better numbers. Sounds like an MVP season.
 
Baker is having a career year, he’s been pretty good.
Yea the Bucs are a sleeper for me and getting healthy at the right time, probably last team I'd wanna play in the NFC playoffs.

They've beaten Detroit, Philly, LAC, DC and took KC to OT in spite of all their injuries. GB is 1-3 in their last 4 games against them too
 
This is tough because no one is elite. Stafford and Goff are close to each other. I like Love a lot more than I thought I would. Hurts is severely underrated. Jayden is a leader and a star.

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I agree with this take I'm regards to Hurts's perception amongst his peers



Feels like Lamar gets a bit of that as well.

He's not an elite thrower or anything but he's become a much better pro QB than I ever thought he ever would in college. Genuinely blossomed into a face of the franchise type of leader and QB.

He won't carry a team to a ring but I don't think you'll lose one either because of him. He's perfectly capable of winning and he would've been SB MVP in his first opportunity had they made one last stop.
 
I seen someone here call Hurts, Joe Webb with a fade. That is insane. Hurts been damn good outside of 2-3 games this season.


I think Lamar can definitely carry a team all the way. He has to play his game and stop trying to play someone else’s game. They choked against KC last year, all he had to do was run more cause there were wide open lanes. His arm has been great. He’s making ridiculous throws every week but they’re never talked about for some reason.
 
I root for Jalen but he got too many 100 yrd passing games with those weapons. AJ Brown said what he said for a reason. Even Saquon is a receiving threat. I don't know if it's Jalen or the OC.
 
I seen someone here call Hurts, Joe Webb with a fade. That is insane. Hurts been damn good outside of 2-3 games this season.


I think Lamar can definitely carry a team all the way. He has to play his game and stop trying to play someone else’s game. They choked against KC last year, all he had to do was run more cause there were wide open lanes. His arm has been great. He’s making ridiculous throws every week but they’re never talked about for some reason.
That last part of my post was about Hurts but I think Lamar could if he was a bit more selfish and more willing to go off script in the big spots :lol

If even his Mom watching could see what he needed to do against KC last year, he definitely could too :lol. Don't think Harbaugh would chew his head off either if he improvised in the name of making things happen for them.
 
I root for Jalen but he got too many 100 yrd passing games with those weapons. AJ Brown said what he said for a reason. Even Saquon is a receiving threat. I don't know if it's Jalen or the OC.
The way I look at it is he's been really good at doing what they ask of him. His record as a starter is up there with the elite of the elite.

They don't ask him to air it out 40 times a game, even when they didn't have Saquon, so he doesn't and that's OK.

Multiple ways to win in this league and often the most effective ways don't look the prettiest.

I'll always prefer a team working in tandem with a QB's strengths + weaknesses and individual skillset rather than forcing or trying to mold them into something they're not.
 
Darnold and Goff's numbers are similar. Darnold's was actually better before the 5td game Sunday.
 
Unlike Dak, Jalen delivers when needed.

They’ve got a back who is about to have damn near 2500+ scrimmage yards….

I ain’t seen Devonta Smith crying. Only AJ
 
On the discussion earlier

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Hadn't seen the numbers side by side until now :lol

Both worthy but the best record will likely win out like we normally see
 
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