OFFICIAL NFL THREAD 2024-25: Week XVI “Merry Christmas ya filthy animals”

[frshstunna]

Allen got the better record n doesn’t have an MVP yet so it makes sense he’s the front runner for the award

Ravens defense shoulda showed up against the Raiders n Browns , Lamar would have a better chance for another one

 

[finessence]

Never seen a team get

Lawd giveth.. lawd taketh away

Talking and being a media darling only gets you so far. It’s about winning. Not to say DTR will be any different though

 

[king j]

The Bills don't give their RB the ball so Josh gets those short TD's. Lamar got way more rushing yrds than Josh, that kinda holds more weight.

James Cook has 13 rushing TDs

Touchdowns >Yards

 

[finessence]

If Lamar’s team had a better record or the best record, he’d be the front runner. The league usually bases it off team wins, if the race is super close, pertaining to stats.

IMO, based off the media and talking heads, it’s Allen, Saquon, then Lamar. I personally would love to see Saquon do it but yeah, they’re giving it to Josh. They’re tired of seeing Lamar win awards

 

[rolaholic]

Makes sense why he goes sk hard at Hurts as he does

He was just dismissing his performance and talking up his 'pretty privilege' the other day on the air, I guess it's because Hurts lives rent free in his wifes head

 

[rolaholic]

If Lamar’s team had a better record or the best record, he’d be the front runner. The league usually bases it off team wins, if the race is super close, pertaining to stats.

IMO, based off the media and talking heads, it’s Allen, Saquon, then Lamar. I personally would love to see Saquon do it but yeah, they’re giving it to Josh. They’re tired of seeing Lamar win awards

They've been crowning Allen since Sunday, not even mad. It finally really feels like his, and Buffalo's, year for once

Lamar would be the front runner like you said if the Ravens didn't go dummy in a few games.

I'd give it to Saquon if he goes for 2k because of how big of a difference he's made for Philly but I don't see it changing unless the Bills go on a losing streak to end the season.

 

[daruma]

 

[king j]

They've been crowning Allen since Sunday, not even mad. It finally really feels like his, and Buffalo's, year for once

Lamar would be the front runner like you said if the Ravens didn't go dummy in a few games.

I'd give it to Saquon if he goes for 2k because of how big of a difference he's made for Philly but I don't see it changing unless the Bills go on a losing streak to end the season.

Bills got Jets & Pats twice, pretty much in the bag

 

[dwileykyot]

I don’t understand why anyone has to tear down one qb to praise another.

Lamar has had a great season… Josh’s has been a lil better and more impactful. Expectations from the beginning of the year also come into play.

 

[broncos19dm]

 

[Dave East]

If Lamar’s team had a better record or the best record, he’d be the front runner. The league usually bases it off team wins, if the race is super close, pertaining to stats.

IMO, based off the media and talking heads, it’s Allen, Saquon, then Lamar. I personally would love to see Saquon do it but yeah, they’re giving it to Josh. They’re tired of seeing Lamar win awards

I disagree, I think it’s more about he has two and we feel bad for the flopper.

Makes sense why he goes sk hard at Hurts as he does

He was just dismissing his performance and talking up his 'pretty privilege' the other day on the air, I guess it's because Hurts lives rent free in his wifes head

This was hilarious. She bad too, damn.

I don’t understand why anyone has to tear down one qb to praise another.

Lamar has had a great season… Josh’s has been a lil better and more impactful. Expectations from the beginning of the year also come into play.

Tearing who down? Allen has been great but he hasn’t been better. Most of the responses are “well he hasn’t had one so maybe we can give him a turn”. Loser ****.

 

[king j]

I disagree, I think it’s more about he has two and we feel bad for the flopper.



This was hilarious. She bad too, damn.



Tearing who down? Allen has been great but he hasn’t been better. Most of the responses are “well he hasn’t had one so maybe we can give him a turn”. Loser ****.

So basically you don’t like Josh Allen ,got it

 

[dwileykyot]

So basically you don’t like Josh Allen ,got it

Real talk… ignoring his opinion on the matter from now on lol

 

[Dave East]

So basically you don’t like Josh Allen ,got it

I think he’s a top 3 QB

 

[staffsgtdignam]

I don’t understand why anyone has to tear down one qb to praise another.

Lamar has had a great season… Josh’s has been a lil better and more impactful. Expectations from the beginning of the year also come into play.

Yeah Ravens have been a mess all season. They have an incredible offense with Lamar and Henry but Orr is a terrible DC and have the 2nd worst pass defense in the league. Not to mention losses to the Browns and Raiders lol Not to mention that Justin Tucker is clearly washed and nobody, including Harbs/Lamar, wants to admit it.

 

[WASHED KING]

Josh Allen isn't who the media wants him to be but whatever. We know how it works.

 

[rolaholic]

If the Bengals defense was worth a damn Burrow would probably be way out ahead of everyone, he's been as good as anyone

 

[rolaholic]

Josh Allen isn't who the media wants him to be but whatever. We know how it works.

I won't call him generational like a lot of these talking heads (the guy who always beats him in January is the only QB fitting that moniker in the league rn) but there he's been elite and a top 3/4 QB for 5-6 years straight.

Absolutely would be worthy if he gets it with the Bills most likely finishing no less than the 2 seed.

JA is a more durable Cam Newton for me which is no knock, MVP Cam was a top 5 player peak that I've ever seen in real time.

 

[king j]

I won't call him generational like a lot of these talking heads (the guy who always beats him in January is the only QB fitting that moniker in the league rn) but there he's been elite and a top 3/4 QB for 5-6 years straight.

Absolutely would be worthy if he gets it with the Bills most likely finishing no less than the 2 seed.

JA is a more durable Cam Newton for me which is no knock, MVP Cam was a top 5 player peak that I've ever seen in real time.

There’s only like 4 elite QBs

Mahomes
Lamar
Allen
Burrow

Crazy they are all in the AFC

Goff is borderline

 

[g-time]

I won't call him generational like a lot of these talking heads (the guy who always beats him in January is the only QB fitting that moniker in the league rn) but there he's been elite and a top 3/4 QB for 5-6 years straight.

Absolutely would be worthy if he gets it with the Bills most likely finishing no less than the 2 seed.

JA is a more durable Cam Newton for me which is no knock, MVP Cam was a top 5 player peak that I've ever seen in real time.

In fairness, those games against Mahomes in January he performed well in. Hell one game he led them down and gave them the lead with under 40 seconds left iirc and the defense didn't hold.

 

[WASHED KING]

There’s only like 4 elite QBs

Mahomes
Lamar
Allen
Burrow

Crazy they are all in the AFC

Goff is borderline

Personally I think it's a gap with the clear top 2 being Mahomes and Lamar

Then you Allen and Burrow

Then everyone else.

 

[rolaholic]

There’s only like 4 elite QBs

Mahomes
Lamar
Allen
Burrow

Crazy they are all in the AFC

Goff is borderline

Goff has been elite this year but yea would have him borderline

Would have Stafford just ahead of him if we're ranking them.

Don't think he's elite anymore but he's still great and is proven in January.

 

[rolaholic]

On a sidenote, KC defies logic



Saw a stat the other day that they haven't given up 30 points in 35 games straight now

 

[Dave East]

In fairness, those games against Mahomes in January he performed well in. Hell one game he led them down and gave them the lead with under 40 seconds left iirc and the defense didn't hold.

He’s had a few great playoff games and he’s having a great year. My issue is the media saying the award is his and he’s been better than everyone. I didn’t even notice Lamar was having a better year until Tiki said everyone needs to stop praising Josh when Lamar is having a better year in every aspect. Two playoff teams and both will be number one in their division. Bills also play against NCAA teams six times this year and Lamar plays in probably the best division in football.

Real talk… ignoring his opinion on the matter from now on lol

Says the Bills fan…

 

[king j]

He’s had a few great playoff games and he’s having a great year. My issue is the media saying the award is his and he’s been better than everyone. I didn’t even notice Lamar was having a better year until Tiki said everyone needs to stop praising Josh when Lamar is having a better year in every aspect. Two playoff teams and both will be number one in their division. Bills also play against NCAA teams six times this year and Lamar plays in probably the best division in football.




Says the Bills fan…

Ravens won’t win their division and people forget Derrick Henry was the Ravens MVP for the first 8-10 weeks of the season….Lamar isn’t having a far and away better season than Josh,people just started pushing for Josh after he beat Mahomes

NFC North > AFC north