Official NBA 2012-2013 Season Thread

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Not true. The only one that came close was TMac even then not many were hating on TMa because he was only at Kobe's level for like 3 years.

But it just happened to be that TMac was every Kobe hater's favorite player

That is definitely false. So you're telling me Kobe fans didn't hate on AI, Vince, Wade, Paul Pierce, Bron, and I know I'm forgetting about some others?

Your last sentence is definitely not true. There were a ton of AI fans, Vince fans, etc that were Kobe haters too. Again, like I said NUMEROUS times on here, whenever there were hate threads about AI, Vince, Tmac, Wade,Bron, etc, they were created the majority of, if not all, the time by Kobe fans. Let me know how often you remember seeing a Tmac hate thread created by an AI fan or a Wade hate thread created by a Tmac fan?

I'm SURE you guys have to remember the hate on Wade for no reason other than the fact that he got Shaq a ring without Kobe. Where you think the name D Whistle came from on here? It damn sure wasn't a Tmac, Lebron, AI or Vince fan.

Before you Kobe fans come with some stupid BS about everyone hates the "best" or whatever. I grew up watching Jordan, Penny, Grant Hill, etc and there was never no riff like there is now between Jordan fans and the Penny and Grant Hill fans. Jordan fans loved Penny and Grant Hill too.

No the only ones you could possibly say that Kobe fans have hated on was Lebron and T-Mac.

All those other guys were never revelant for a long enough period to be hated on. They were just flavors of the month, that some Kobe haters wanted to declare King
 
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Another ******* Kobe debate. :lol



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It's crazy the NBA Finals might be between 2 teams that never faced each other cause they rested their starters. No tape to watch.


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Can we stop with the hypotheticals? You could use them for almost every player....Lebron, Kobe, Duncan, Dirk, KD, Melo etc etc
 
i wonder if tmac is kicking himself for requesting a trade when the magic got Dimwit. Those 2 together in the weak east could did some work and with hills contract coming off the books they could of added someone else.
 
No the only ones you could possibly say that Kobe fans have hated on was Lebron and T-Mac.

All those other guys were never revelant for a long enough period to be hated on. They were just flavors of the month, that some Kobe haters wanted to declare King

I'll agree with this for the most part but I think you can throw Wade in there too. Wade only stopped getting hated on when Bron came to the Heat so it's like the haters had to choose the lesser of the two evils.
 
i wonder if tmac is kicking himself for requesting a trade when the magic got Dimwit. Those 2 together in the weak east could did some work and with hills contract coming off the books they could of added someone else.

As a Tmac fan, I always felt he should've stayed in Orlando. I never felt Yao was a dominant center. Dude was like a Rik Smits, not bad, but not ever going to be great. However, I do get the frustration from Tmac of not wanting to have to wait another 3 years for a HS kid to develop since he's been waiting practically his whole term in Orlando for "something" to happen, but never did.
 
prime healthy tmac/yao (something we've never seen) would win just as many championships as did a prime kobe/shaq
i cant deny this they had the perfect roll players to compliment them.

the yr with ron artest was their yr, but tmac got injured. it was yao's best yr
solid role players with luis, shane, lowry, brooks, landry, dikembe, chuck, von wafer
 
tmac was a great player in his prime but he couldnt even get passed the first round

And his teams had a 3 -1 lead and a 2 - 0 lead in 2 of those series. TMac is the most loved underachiever on NT, I swear. :lol



Dude one of the most explosive scorers that league has ever seen for about 5 years but him and Vince Carter are in the category.
Tgat 2-0 lead was against Dallas and both of those wins were at Dallas. So games 3-4 were in Houston. Yet he still lost in 7. They were blown out by 40 in that game and T Mac started 1/7 :{

post the roster, though.
Sorry the "No help" excuse doesn't apply here. T Mac was the most talented player in the series then he had Yao who outplayed Dirk in that series then they had Mike James in double figures and 2 great shooters in David Wesley and Jon Barry.

So McGrady who was the most talented player in the series had Yao, who outplayed the Mavs best player, some shooters and another scorer in Mike James.

with Dirk struggling, T Mac had more than enough to get it done. He was up 2-0 with THREE home games left in the series. Embarrassing
 
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As a Tmac fan, I always felt he should've stayed in Orlando. I never felt Yao was a dominant center. Dude was like a Rik Smits, not bad, but not ever going to be great. However, I do get the frustration from Tmac of not wanting to have to wait another 3 years for a HS kid to develop since he's been waiting practically his whole term in Orlando for "something" to happen, but never did.
i can understand it too, but as he learned the grass isnt always greener on the other side , also if he would of stayed would satn still have become available  and would hedo and the rest of the magic players develpoed like they did or would they depend on t-mac to save them ala lebron in cleavland .
the yr with ron artest was their yr, but tmac got injured. it was yao's best yr
solid role players with luis, shane, lowry, brooks, landry, dikembe, chuck, von wafer
its amazing that they had 22 wins in a row, and it sucks that both their careers were pretty much a rap after that season . i miss yao 
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T-Mac in his prime was something fun to watch :smokin

The thing about McGrady in his prime was come postseason, his #'s actually improved from his regular season #'s (which were already very impressive). His lack of support hurt him. Its a shame because he did have something good in Houston but then Yao got injured |I

Wall seems to be enjoying the offseason 8o :lol :hat
 
Sorry the "No help" excuse doesn't apply here. T Mac was the most talented player in the series then he had Yao who outplayed Dirk in that series then they had Mike James in double figures and 2 great shooters in David Wesley and Jon Barry.

So McGrady who was the most talented player in the series had Yao, who outplayed the Mavs best player, some shooters and another scorer in Mike James.

with Dirk struggling, T Mac had more than enough to get it done. He was up 2-0 with THREE home games left in the series. Embarrassing
Idk if you're a Rox fan but big ups for saying this. I've been saying this for some time, while we may have lost to better teams we had enough to win in 05, 07 & 08. And he quit on the best team from a talent standpoint he had in 09.

You can definitely blame TMac for not getting it done in Houston.
 
Idk if you're a Rox fan but big ups for saying this. I've been saying this for some time, while we may have lost to better teams we had enough to win in 05, 07 & 08. And he quit on the best team from a talent standpoint he had in 09.

You can definitely blame TMac for not getting it done in Houston.
HOW? Hurt most of his time, His # 2 hurt most of the time.
 
That is definitely false. So you're telling me Kobe fans didn't hate on AI, Vince, Wade, Paul Pierce, Bron, and I know I'm forgetting about some others?

Your last sentence is definitely not true. There were a ton of AI fans, Vince fans, etc that were Kobe haters too. Again, like I said NUMEROUS times on here, whenever there were hate threads about AI, Vince, Tmac, Wade,Bron, etc, they were created the majority of, if not all, the time by Kobe fans. Let me know how often you remember seeing a Tmac hate thread created by an AI fan or a Wade hate thread created by a Tmac fan?

I'm SURE you guys have to remember the hate on Wade for no reason other than the fact that he got Shaq a ring without Kobe. Where you think the name D Whistle came from on here? It damn sure wasn't a Tmac, Lebron, AI or Vince fan.

Before you Kobe fans come with some stupid BS about everyone hates the "best" or whatever. I grew up watching Jordan, Penny, Grant Hill, etc and there was never no riff like there is now between Jordan fans and the Penny and Grant Hill fans. Jordan fans loved Penny and Grant Hill too.
for most part late 90's early mid 2000's ai was easily more popular then kobe...and to an extent so was tmac at least globally. Like i said this bandwagon of kobe fans didnt get full untill ai fell off, tmac same thing...and the introduction of lebron.

Not saying he wasnt popular, but hell if you look at all star votes, jersey sales etc... kobe wasnt even the most popular on his own team, let alone the nba.

Ppl forget especially with iverson how popular he was as a player. From the dedicated fan sites, the emulation of his game on the street courts, down to his sig crownrows and braids. Hell even at one point his shoes were up there in terms of popularity.

And your right...outside of indiana and knicks fans...werent to many ppl who hated mj. Althought there wasnt 24/7 monitoring of his life, actions etc... like there is now with players...via internet. But no one was on some oh if you like shaq you gotta hate akeem, or if you like ewing, you cant be a fan of the admiral. Ill admit there always was the boston/lakers/pistons to some extent fan rivalry. But even then aint like a boston fan said bird is the greatest and well magic sucks.... danny ainge is a point god and zeke is a loser..... No one wished death on players, nor did they make up lame excuses to hate the players, nor associate themselves with players as if they have a friendship, or at the very least an association with said players.

Dudes gave congrats to other teams, was unbias when their team played. And enjoyed a good game for the simple fact the enjoyed said sport.

You didnt have cats saying well oh this guy put up 30/15/10, but since he cheated on his wife he sucks and imma hate him for it, and he isnt fit to be an allstar. You didnt have guys saying well had 10 str8 40+ pt games, but i dont like his shoe line so he is grabage. Or the oh this guy had one good game against my rival team, and then proceeds to deem said player in discussion for h.o.f. Ala john starks great series against the bulls.

For as much as knicks fans wanted to beat the bulls...cant recall them burning mj's jersey. Now like ive stated you dont have fans of bball and the nba, you basically have jock riders, and because of the first takes, the blogs, twitter etc...they just like or dislike the drama/gossip assocaited with a player and or team.

Dudes nowadays in most part, especially young cats...sports is there version of reality tv,soap operas, tmz etc... They watch to see the drama, to hate and dislike players. They are influenced by social media and others what they should and who they should not cheer for and appreciate. And then they try to quantify and appear to be knowledgeble about the sport, by doing a quick wiki search, or watch some highlighted game, or highlight reel of a player to seem as if they are knowledgeble about said sport/and or player.

Not taking into account other factors that determine the game(s) or sport or the individual players. Ala kobe is good...cause i wiki his stats and they look good, i watch a 20 minute mixtape on youtube, and i caught a few games....have cats thinking they damn red auerbach, hubie brown ah something.
 
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