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F what y'all talking about
Nelly - Country Grammer was a great album
Yea I bought Country Grammar and Free City, can't hate on those
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F what y'all talking about
Nelly - Country Grammer was a great album
I see what dudes are saying as far as the Drake/ Ye arguments but i think people are critically underrating how Big of an artist Jay was even prior to Beyonce.
This ***** had Michael ****** jackson on stage at a rap show with Dame Dash & Memph Bleek
***** has been a SUPERSTAR for a very long time. Social media era allows these newer artist to look much bigger compared to the superstars of that day.
I see what dudes are saying as far as the Drake/ Ye arguments but i think people are critically underrating how Big of an artist Jay was even prior to Beyonce.
This ***** had Michael ****** jackson on stage at a rap show with Dame Dash & Memph Bleek
***** has been a SUPERSTAR for a very long time. Social media era allows these newer artist to look much bigger compared to the superstars of that day.
Only person bigger than Jay-Z is PacYou still don't get it, Jay-Z is bigger than music. He doesn't need music.
He's Will Smith. You don't associate Will Smith as a rapper. You look at Jay-Z as Jay-Z. They show Jay-Z at a basketball game, he's Jay-Z.
Jay-Z's popularity is far bigger than record sales.
Me personally:I do think Drake is more popular than Jay.
Drake makes pop music. That's always gonna be more appealing to white folks than Jay being a rapper. Even Jay's most popular songs won't appeal to white folks as much as Drakes catchy singalongs. Hold On, Hotline Bling, **** like that most of the time is gonna be bigger than any hip hop record.
once again y'all are bringing up extra stuff
im talking about music lmao
that's why oldhead stopped responding to me because he had no argument with just music
once again y'all are bringing up extra stuff
im talking about music lmao
that's why oldhead stopped responding to me because he had no argument with just music
some dude compared the meek and drake beef to hov and nas lmao saying that nas won as a underdog so meek should have. just saying it was a dumb comparison for various factors.I'm really not understanding what ya'll are arguing? if we are talking about who was bigger a huge part of that would take into account their influence on pop culture as a whole. Drake makes legit songs that aren't Hip hop so he's gonna get play on top 40 radio, Pop stations yes. But that isn't the only way a celebrity influences pop culture and that's what i'm arguing.
so while yea a broader audience of people may know drake solely off of music compared to jay at that time, Having product on the big screen, commercials, clothing, etc etc is gonna clearly even the scales.
some dude compared the meek and drake beef to hov and nas lmao saying that nas won as a underdog so meek should have. just saying it was a dumb comparison for various factors.
regardless of that
drake has many endeavors outside of music too idk why y'all are leaving that out. pretty much being the face of the raptors, hosting the espys, having a jordan deal etc.. no his business moves aren't up to par with hov's (it's not even close) but he's also more than just a rapper just like hov
why are you putting drake on the level of fetty wap? lol stop with the dumb analogies dawg. drake has memorable projects too whether you like them or not.
you didn't even know what the argument was but you were quick to jump in and defend "your generation" .
thank you ^ that's been my point the entire time.
drake would do eminem numbers if he was around during that time
agree with everything you said bro lolI agree with that. If we couldn't get free music right now Drake would be selling 6+ mil. Drake is a talented, smart dude. He's a good enough signer to make these catchy radio records for the pop crowd and he's a good enough rapper to still be accepted in hip hop, now the ghostwriting **** has hurt him as a rapper but that's another topic. His stans get offended when you say he makes pop music but it's a fact. He does the Hold On's then he'll jump on Future's sound to get that crowd.
Now again that does not make Drake the best rapper, it's a few dudes that are better than him and make better HIP HOP MUSIC.
Jay would never be bigger than drake because pop is always gonna be bigger than rap. Bartolomeo from Connecticut can't relate to vol 1 but views might be right up his alley. But let's not act like camel wasn't huge even back then. He's as big as it gets as a rapper, dude had mj on stage, sold reebok, made dudes wear button ups etc.
What demographics is Drake touching that Jay didn't?? Jay transcended just being a rapper after BP1. features with Mick Jackson, Showtime specials, Sneaker Deals etc etc dude was out there. Ja Rule, DMX, Nelly etc etc were all at one point just as popular if not more popular
dudes really be acting like he's doing unprecedented things, Wayne just 5-6 years ago was in the same space