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Samsung really threw jay 20 mill? Good lord he really does stay winning. How much is this guy worth now?
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Hov said he was gonna kill autotune...I expect this to be what the Blueprint was to rap in 2001 based off of the title & the commercial. You hear him say that new rules must be set and if the definition of magna carta is any indication of what the albums goal will b..... then hov is about to kill alot of the repetitive **** going on.
The real magna Carta was used too try and weaken the authority and power of kings and make him take heed to what the people wanted.... In a music sense i think Ye & Jay-Z are both setting themselves up to kind of take music back into there own hands.
We would never know how much dude stole from Jay Elec...QFT
Somebody already said it Jay is a leech that is %100 correct Leeched off Nas,Lupe,Kanye you name it but like my man just said its business when its all said and done So I aint never mad at him for it
Get yo money
On another note whatever happen to the Jay Elect album dude been M.I.A since snaggin that rothschild chic
I remember reading Hov said it was the greatest album he ever heard in his life Why haven't we got it yet
That being said and Hov being the leech\biter some of us know he is hopefully he bit off a chunk of Jay Elect lyrically and we get a nice balance of production and lyrics
He can't go wrong musically with those guys although I hate Swizz He's the weakest of the crew I wish he gave Just Blaze his spot
I think it's because this so called "progression" isn't always that. There is absolutely nothing wrong with trying something different but just because it's different doesn't mean its good. No one's saying he has to make Reasonable Doubt over and over again, but I don't think you can sit here and tell me a few bars about his relationship with Obama, throw in something about him being the black whoever, along with the yacht along the French Riviera is progress.
Now I do agree that yes, some of the criticism is unwarranted but the legit points people bring up are immediately shot down by the stans. There's no objectivity at all when it comes to certain artists and I think that's why you end up with the dudes on the other end of the extreme.
With that being said, I'm willing to give Jay a chance and see what he manages to create this time around. I liked the mini doc, I always enjoy seeing the creative process behind the actual music itself.
We would never know how much dude stole from Jay Elec...
I feel you to an extent on the progression tip. there are times when the whole ballin mantra can be to much. But when it comes to incorporating different sounds and genres into hip hop Jay and Kanye have been pushing the envelope on what a hip hop album sounds like. When you listen to both of their last two albums (watch the throne, some of blueprint3, and MBDTF) and you'll see the use of different sounds and approaches that normally aren't used in the realm of hip hop. Although some people may hate the fact that their music sounds "different" or "unconventional" its somewhat needed in a genre that's starting to get stale and repetitive. (with a close minded fanbase)
Although you do have artist that have made a somewhat typical and good hip hop album like Kendrick, A$AP, everyone else has been making the same BS music they made before.
I think it's because this so called "progression" isn't always that. There is absolutely nothing wrong with trying something different but just because it's different doesn't mean its good. No one's saying he has to make Reasonable Doubt over and over again, but I don't think you can sit here and tell me a few bars about his relationship with Obama, throw in something about him being the black whoever, along with the yacht along the French Riviera is progress.
Now I do agree that yes, some of the criticism is unwarranted but the legit points people bring up are immediately shot down by the stans. There's no objectivity at all when it comes to certain artists and I think that's why you end up with the dudes on the other end of the extreme.
With that being said, I'm willing to give Jay a chance and see what he manages to create this time around. I liked the mini doc, I always enjoy seeing the creative process behind the actual music itself.
I realize that the music isn't going to be appreciated by everyone the same music is based off emotions so there are people who just can't vibe with certain stuff cool.
But i'm not going to sit here and have the same cats talkin bout Gucci new tape is classic telling me that Jay-Z has'nt had a good rap verse in 5 years... Like where's the basis for these statements coming from how is it that you think Jay-Z (Who hands down is known as one of the greatest this Genre has to offer) should stop making music all together yet all these cats out here literally making a joke out of the genre are cool in ya'll book.
It's not about who the hate is directed at and more about the mentality within itself. People want some cookie cutter super repetitive **** and the second Hiphop cats start to veer away from what seems "Tied" to hiphop they get crucified and that worries me because it dilutes the genre and keeps it stagnant.
So you've heard Jay Elec's album to know the verses he already spit?Jay Elect has a pretty plentiful catalog I would know if his swords were borrowed or stolen so I don't know exactly what you mean
Jayz will steal a dudes whole style i.e. Clique he stole/borrowed 2chains style Open letter he stole/borrowed Chief keef flow this list goes on
So you gotta be clear on "wouldn't know" you might not know but I would
son went platinum before the album dropped
AMAZING
that's my crappy *** genderfied neighborhood
i know that building jay's in the view of the projects and the million dollar condo across the street
also thats not brooklyn that's lower manhattan
if he was going to keep it real he should have shot the commercial in bk
film it in a condo in bk not a co-op apt in manhattan
you know jay aint going back to the Marcy PJ's to make a commercial
keep it real
yeah keep it real fake
Uhmmm...
Wont be a mixtape but we will get music on that date. Seriously.
That's all Ima say. ..
Just sayin...
So you've heard Jay Elec's album to know the verses he already spit?
You think Jay is gonna bite some old Jay Elec verse from his plentiful catalog?
You just told me you would know if his swords were borrowed...correct?Stupid question dude why would I want to hear something I already heard ya lost me
Would he bite the old catalog
of course he would he does it all the time
A la "99 problems" that's a old Ice T joint from Ice T's old catalog
Derp
What you trying to prove kid you're not making sense to me
Are you some kind of Hov stan in denial he's a biter
Camron already prove this so its not like I'm lying
What rock you been under
Hov a biter son deal with it
Why is Swizz on this wwwhhhhyyyyyy?!?!? Dude hasn't been hot since Ruff Ryders, why Jay??
First thing that came to mind, I can't stand swizz
And at those who obviously don't know who produced 99 Problems
I don't see the Chief Keef one at all.Jay Elect has a pretty plentiful catalog I would know if his swords were borrowed or stolen so I don't know exactly what you mean
Jayz will steal a dudes whole style i.e. Clique he stole/borrowed 2chains style Open letter he stole/borrowed Chief keef flow this list goes on
So you gotta be clear on "wouldn't know" you might not know but I would
that's my crappy *** genderfied neighborhood
i know that building jay's in the view of the projects and the million dollar condo across the street
also thats not brooklyn that's lower manhattan
if he was going to keep it real he should have shot the commercial in bk
film it in a condo in bk not a co-op apt in manhattan
you know jay aint going back to the Marcy PJ's to make a commercial
keep it real
yeah keep it real fake
You just told me you would know if his swords were borrowed...correct?
I asked how would you know if Jay-Z was stealing Jay Elec's flows unless you heard his album already?
But my point is, you don't know what he could have gotten from Jay Elec.
I don't see the Chief Keef one at all.
So you've heard Jay Elec's album to know the verses he already spit?
You think Jay is gonna bite some old Jay Elec verse from his plentiful catalog?
Stupid question dude why would I want to hear something I already heard ya lost me
Would he bite the old catalog
of course he would he does it all the time
A la "99 problems" that's a old Ice T joint from Ice T's old catalog
Derp
What you trying to prove kid you're not making sense to me
Are you some kind of Hov stan in denial he's a biter
Camron already prove this so its not like I'm lying
What rock you been under
Hov a biter son deal with it