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I'm about halfway through now. I don't even read much (if ever) but this has me hooked. When I grabbed the book Saturday I wasn't even sure I'd get to finish it.
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I hope they bring the first Mountain back.
He's probably still busy filming The Hobbit movies. The new guy who plays him isn't intimidating at all.
The first Mountain was wayyyyyy better, dude was so intimidating. When I watched season 2 for the first time I was trying to figure out which character the new Mountain was. Was disappointed to find out that they recasted the part.
Guy named Ian Whyte:Who played him in S2? I don't think I even noticed.
He's probably still busy filming The Hobbit movies. The new guy who plays him isn't intimidating at all.
It was definltey easy to sympathize with him this season but me and Jamie had our moment in season two in one of the interrogation scenes with Catelyn Stark,^ Yes Jamie became one of my favorite characters this season.
Who played him in S2? I don't think I even noticed.
Guy named Ian Whyte:
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Compared to the guy who played him in S1:
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^ He needs to come back for S4
If IIRC, they also wanted someone much taller than the Hound. Look at that fight between the Mountain and the Hound from S1 and it looks like they're the same height when he's supposed to be bigger. Dude from S2 didn't have his armor on and was still the same size with a towering height.
Are you saying Ned is not the father? Word to Maury.
Right now I think Ned, Robert and Rhaygar (sp) are the three possible fathers.
My three scenarios are that...
1) Ned and his sister got it on
2) Robert impregnated her, never knew about it and Ned claimed the child as his own without Robert knowing because he knew that if Robert had a child out of wedlock and became the King, it wouldn't look good on his résumé
3) Rhaygar impregnated Lyanna during one of the countless times he raped her
Either way, it explains why Ned is so reluctant to talk about it and brushes Catelyn off whenever she asks about it.
Right now I'm leaning towards scenario 1, just because of the descriptions of Jon looking more like a Stark than any of the other children. He would have the strongest genes of any of the kids, and I believe that Ned tells Cat "He is a true born Stark and that's all you need to know" or something to that effect. I just can't see how Ned Stark, supposedly the most honorable man in the realm, would lie with his own sister though, but strange things happen during war in Westeros.
It also may be why Ned is so disgusted with Cersei and Jamie because he was so ashamed with himself and his past transgressions.
One thing I don't get though is why was Lyanna with her father and brothers at war and away from Winterfell when a Stark must always remain there? Or had Benjen not joined the Night's Watch at that time?
So many questions! I pray to the old gods that they make a prequel tv/comic/book series to expand the universe.
Anyway, that's my two cents
BTW, I'm only 150 pages through book 1 so if any of this becomes clearer down the track, please don't spoil it before I readit
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Are you saying Ned is not the father? Word to Maury.
Right now I think Ned, Robert and Rhaygar (sp) are the three possible fathers.
My three scenarios are that...
1) Ned and his sister got it on
2) Robert impregnated her, never knew about it and Ned claimed the child as his own without Robert knowing because he knew that if Robert had a child out of wedlock and became the King, it wouldn't look good on his résumé
3) Rhaygar impregnated Lyanna during one of the countless times he raped her
Either way, it explains why Ned is so reluctant to talk about it and brushes Catelyn off whenever she asks about it.
Right now I'm leaning towards scenario 1, just because of the descriptions of Jon looking more like a Stark than any of the other children. He would have the strongest genes of any of the kids, and I believe that Ned tells Cat "He is a true born Stark and that's all you need to know" or something to that effect. I just can't see how Ned Stark, supposedly the most honorable man in the realm, would lie with his own sister though, but strange things happen during war in Westeros.
It also may be why Ned is so disgusted with Cersei and Jamie because he was so ashamed with himself and his past transgressions.
One thing I don't get though is why was Lyanna with her father and brothers at war and away from Winterfell when a Stark must always remain there? Or had Benjen not joined the Night's Watch at that time?
So many questions! I pray to the old gods that they make a prequel tv/comic/book series to expand the universe.
Anyway, that's my two cents
BTW, I'm only 150 pages through book 1 so if any of this becomes clearer down the track, please don't spoil it before I readit
[\spoiler]The book doesnt really go into this subject anymore (probably saving the reveal for the last book) So you're good on spoilers
But man, if that last book drops and it was revealed that Jon was the son of Ned and Lyanna, i'm tossing that book out the window. **** I'll probably jump out the window not long after that too, i'd be so mad I can't imagine honorable Ned Stark ever doin some **** like that.
Dont think Robert could be the father either because the sucka was madly in love with her and was probably trying to wait for the wedding night that never came
It leaves only Rhaegar as the daddy