Official DragonBall Z Thread. R.I.P Akira Toriyama. You will be missed

[silverbackhoney]

Also, didn't the first super saiyan do it in Great Ape form or something like that?

I thought Bardock having a tail had some effect on that. Wasn't that part of the storyline somewhere in GT or in the android saga?

 

[Top Boy]

 
Also, didn't the first super saiyan do it in Great Ape form or something like that?

I thought Bardock having a tail had some effect on that. Wasn't that part of the storyline somewhere in GT or in the android saga?

I think you're talking about GT if I recall correctly.

Then that SS origin wouldn't be officially part of the story

 

[silverbackhoney]

Yeah it was this image...

So does that prove that AT doesn't give any dambs about his storyline? Does Bardock revert back into a normal, stereotypical saiyan killing machine? Was Bardock not the first Super Saiyan?

Edit: It was during the Namek saga. Episode 66.

 

[frenchbreadbuilds]

Yeah it was this image...
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So does that prove that AT doesn't give any dambs about his storyline? Does Bardock revert back into a normal, stereotypical saiyan killing machine? Was Bardock not the first Super Saiyan?

Edit: It was during the Namek saga. Episode 66.

Anime filler

 

[KingParappa]

Isn't that from Vegeta telling the story? So we can assume this is what he thinks a Super Saiyan looks like, right?

 

[silverbackhoney]

They say something about it in one of the thingies too, how it was described as "ruthless" etc but the normal super saiyans retained their self-control, except when they were Golden Great Apes.

Y'all underestimate GT sometimes. The Baby Saga and the final dragons were actually pretty good.

 

[frenchbreadbuilds]

Isn't that from Vegeta telling the story? So we can assume this is what he thinks a Super Saiyan looks like, right?

It's just an anime filler. Fluff they decided to add after the fact. That depiction of the first SS isn't canon

 

[thekid3456]

They say something about it in one of the thingies too, how it was described as "ruthless" etc but the normal super saiyans retained their self-control, except when they were Golden Great Apes.
Y'all underestimate GT sometimes. The Baby Saga and the final dragons were actually pretty good.

The sheron dragon saga was amazing. Imo. And even though GT is crucially critized they made fighting quick. Unlike DBZ were it would take forever. I just wished they never turned Goku to a child. I found that so stupid.

 

[silverbackhoney]

Also, if the Planet was originally host to the Plant population, do we assume they evolved into Tuffles and Saiyans or did the Saiyans and Tuffles both travel there?

Wouldn't that mean there is a planet where the Saiyans originated from? There's an endless amount of directions they could take it, and they decide to do another Freiza movie and another level above Saiyans.

 

[thekid3456]

Also, if the Planet was originally host to the Plant population, do we assume they evolved into Tuffles and Saiyans or did the Saiyans and Tuffles both travel there?
Wouldn't that mean there is a planet where the Saiyans originated from? There's an endless amount of directions they could take it, and they decide to do another Freiza movie and another level above Saiyans.

That's correct saiyans and tuffles went to that planet and had a contract that the saiyans would protect them as long as the tuffle offer their technology. After a period of time the saiyans did what americans did to native americans and simply took over just on strenght and eliminated every tuffle.

 

[godry]

That's correct saiyans and tuffles went to that planet and had a contract that the saiyans would protect them as long as the tuffle offer their technology. After a period of time the saiyans did what americans did to native americans and simply took over just on strenght and eliminated every tuffle.

Was that canon?

 

[vuuduu]

 
Was that canon?

If GT is considered canon then yea.

 

[jays25]

I suppose with the Original Super Saiyan thing you can always note the fact that it's only ever been referred to as a "legend", which isn't to say that there wasn't such a being. But the actual truth of that person could have been lost or distorted over the years. *shrug* Though I doubt Toriyama cares anyways.

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[dakingii]

smh at them trying to write out the super saiyan forms like that wasnt one of the best parts of DBZ

 

[85wasagreatyear]

But he peppered so much angus in da first movie you woulda thought it was part of da cannon

brolly whipped so much work in that first movie

 

[85wasagreatyear]

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last thing any of them would wanna see

 

[PRIME]

Still doesn't explain his x10000 power up to be able to fight Goku on par.

Bruh, you don't see all that gold?










Hax

 

[PRIME]

What if I told you Toriyama's excuse for not wanting goku to go ssj 2 and ssj3 is because he didn't want to spend so much time drawing lightning bolts and hair down Goku's back....

Tears. It's probably true

Straight from Toriyama:

Super Saiyan 2 and 3 are nothing more than powered-up variations of Super Saiyan. After the fight with Beerus, Goku realized that mastering his normal state and Super Saiyan would raise his level more and sap less strength, so I think he probably won’t become Super Saiyan 2 or 3 any more.

I love this. Screw all those other transformations.


Toriyama might as well rewrite the entire series.

Start an alternate universe or something.


Just scrap everything after Freeza and start blank son.

 

[goldmember]

Goku mastering his normal state when fighting freiza?

While he could've just transfer to SSJ2 or 3 and washed him

 

[jays25]

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last thing any of them would wanna see

Bruh.... this would be the greatest possible calamity that could ever fall upon them They ain't trying to get those hands again.

 

[bamez]

last thing any of them would wanna see

That'd be the last thing anyone wants to see.  Its a terrible idea....

 

[vuuduu]

I suppose with the Original Super Saiyan thing you can always note the fact that it's only ever been referred to as a "legend", which isn't to say that there wasn't such a being. But the actual truth of that person could have been lost or distorted over the years. *shrug* Though I doubt Toriyama cares anyways.

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So is this implying Vegeta is going to be the hero?...

Count me in.

 

[jays25]

I suppose with the Original Super Saiyan thing you can always note the fact that it's only ever been referred to as a "legend", which isn't to say that there wasn't such a being. But the actual truth of that person could have been lost or distorted over the years. *shrug* Though I doubt Toriyama cares anyways.

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So is this implying Vegeta is going to be the hero?...

Count me in.

Just a fan mashup, but Akira has said that Vegeta will be the hero, so the possibility is certainly there.

Honestly i'm just glad he's back in the armor again. The Buu Saga outfit wasn't bad, but the armor is better.

 

[seandon23]

Just a fan mashup, but Akira has said that Vegeta will be the hero, so the possibility is certainly there.

Honestly i'm just glad he's back in the armor again. The Buu Saga outfit wasn't bad, but the armor is better.

yeah the suit in the be saga reminded me of some 80s aerobic workout trainer outfit. but i would rock it tho

 

[abematic]

I just realize, Gohan wears a green one piece with leggings... [emoji]128514[/emoji]