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well i held the pair of xivs in my hand (got them from finishline on thursday) for a good 4-5 minutes... and i decided i liked it. you're right though, iactually hated both shoes when they came out (went walkin around NYC on launchday and i saw them everywhere). still not a fan of the 9s (even though i thinkthe bottom sole is sick), ill probably end up selling this pack i got and buying to xiv's down the road for cheap.