Official 49ers Offseason Thread: Time to re-evaluate the draft...

[Los Angeles]

Originally Posted by offbad

Originally Posted by dfresh244

My friend works for the 49ers and said that D Jax was straight thug in his interview so that turned them off a bit and were going to take Malcom Kelly but didnt clear by the team doctor. Take it for what its worth.

Anyway this draft wasn't sexy but should patch up some holes.

niners have been pulling this BS for a while...

they turned down Rodgers as the #1 pick overall because Alex Smith was a "yes-man" and Rodgers questioned some of Nolan's motives.
and if EITHER or BOTH Jackson and Rodgers become top tier players and they were not selected by the 49ers SOLELY BECAUSE OF THIS REASON....

move on son.

 

[patrickcakes]

From the article, Balmer sounds like good guy. I'm excited about him.

 

[5288]

Originally Posted by NikeTalker23

Good draft. People sometimes forget that the draft isn't a popularity contest. It's about filling holes that needed to be filled, and we did that.

are you still sad that we didn't get the great quentin groves?

 

[niketalker23]

Originally Posted by 5288

Originally Posted by NikeTalker23

Good draft. People sometimes forget that the draft isn't a popularity contest. It's about filling holes that needed to be filled, and we did that.

are you still sad that we didn't get the great quentin groves?

Little bit..I just want a strong LB core and I thought QG would help us achieve that. I don't have much faith in Tully.

 

[niketalker23]

Originally Posted by bright nikes

Originally Posted by offbad

Originally Posted by dfresh244

My friend works for the 49ers and said that D Jax was straight thug in his interview so that turned them off a bit and were going to take Malcom Kelly but didnt clear by the team doctor. Take it for what its worth.

Anyway this draft wasn't sexy but should patch up some holes.

niners have been pulling this BS for a while...

they turned down Rodgers as the #1 pick overall because Alex Smith was a "yes-man" and Rodgers questioned some of Nolan's motives.
and if EITHER or BOTH Jackson and Rodgers become top tier players and they were not selected by the 49ers SOLELY BECAUSE OF THIS REASON....

move on son.

 

[andrew630]

so anything new? any new videos up?

 

[owensstr8clownin]

I was arguing with a friend today about why the niners past up on a WR in the 2nd round. Honestly, lets think this threw clearly.

We drafted a DT Since BY is gone and someone needs to step right in.

We passed up on any WR's for a OG, and thats the right choice. A WR is only as good as his QB. Smith or Hill on their back from getting sacked is not gonnamake us change our mind on a WR. Jackson or any other WR wouldn't have caught any passes. So we made solid choices.

I thought a WR in the 3rd but taking a CB was also needed.

 

[TheGodFresco]

Originally Posted by OwensStr8Clownin

I was arguing with a friend today about why the niners past up on a WR in the 2nd round. Honestly, lets think this threw clearly.

We drafted a DT Since BY is gone and someone needs to step right in.

We passed up on any WR's for a OG, and thats the right choice. A WR is only as good as his QB. Smith or Hill on their back from getting sacked is not gonna make us change our mind on a WR. Jackson or any other WR wouldn't have caught any passes. So we made solid choices.

I thought a WR in the 3rd but taking a CB was also needed.

I had the same exact arguement with my friend

 

[j2o]

Sup_

I see it like this. Jason Hill is still considered a rookie, he barely started 3-4 games last year because of his injuries.
Now this will be his second year and will have an advantage over any rookie that we would've picked up last year. So he might
flourish this year and will be the playmaker that we all wanted from this years draft. But then thats just me. Also, we picked
up a few UFAs that Mike Martz can work with and possibly turn them into #1 receivers especially Colvin or Jordan.

The more I read about our draft pics and especially watching the video on Balmer...I think our draft was pretty decent and will work
out for us in the long run.

Peace.

 

[acidicality]

so anything new? any new videos up? iono but i'll just post some random vids from youtube
more to come

 

[acidicality]

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[Los Angeles]

[h3]Niners' six draft picks: What it all means[/h3]
In the cause-and-effect world of the NFL, every acquisition means a job is lost somewhere else along the line.

As coaches and GMs love to say on cutdown day, it's a numbers game. There are only 53 roster spots available per team at the start of the regular season. The 49ers added six draft picks. Some draftees - Kentwan Balmer, Chilo Rachal, Reggie Smith and Cody Wallace - are virtually assured roster spots. Josh Morgan and Larry Grant have work to do to stick on the final roster.

Here is the breakdown of what each new addition means to the team:

Defensive lineman Kentwan Balmer

What it means for him Chosen in the first round, Balmer must make an immediate contribution. The 49ers are keeping an open mind. They plan to use him at nose tackle and left end before settling on a spot for him. Either way, he figures to get a lot of playing time as a rookie.

What it means for others Aubrayo Franklin enters the second year of a three-year, $6.1 million contract. Isaac Sopoaga, who was Franklin's back up last season, recently signed a five-year, $20 million deal. Sopoaga will make twice as much as Franklin, which might be a clue which player's starting job is the most tenuous. The plan is to move Sopoaga to left end. Justin Smith, Sopoaga, Balmer, Franklin, Ronald Fields and Ray McDonald figure to be on the team. Guys such as Joe Cohen, Atiyyah Ellison and Melvin Oliver have to battle to stick around.

Guard Chilo Rachal

What it means for him When minicamp opens on Friday, Tony Wragge will line up at right guard with the first-team offense. But the door will be open in training camp for Rachal (second-round pick) to get in there. If he shows he can handle the move up to the NFL, Rachal has a good chance to be an opening-week starter.

What it means for others David Baas will miss a portion of training camp. It's a lot like his rookie season. He was projected as a starter as a rookie, but a hamstring injury kept him sidelined most of camp. He could not recover from missing so much time in training camp. Baas did not move into the starting lineup until injuries forced the issue late his rookie season. Again, he was scheduled to be a starter. Now, he has a long road in front of him to get back on the field after sustaining a torn pectoral muscle last week. After being cleared, he still has to regain his upper-body strength and win his way back into the starting lineup.

Defensive back Reggie Smith

What it means for him Some view the third-round pick as a Cover 2 corrner. Others see him as a safety. The 49ers envision Smith as a physical, in-your-face cornerback. Because Nate Clements takes the opponents' best receiver and does not get much help, the 49ers want the corner on the other side to be physical at the line of scrimmage. The other corner generally has safety help over the top. If, over a period of time, Smith proves he can't cover NFL receivers, the 49ers have the option to move him to free safety.

What it means for others Walt Harris is a 13-year vet who eventually must be replaced. The 49ers want to make sure they have some candidates ready to take over. Shawntae Spencer signed a reasonable contract extension in 2006 and has a deal in place through 2012. He has experienced difficulty staying healthy. When healthy, Spencer has not been the most consistent performer, either. Tarell Brown, whom many believed was a second-round value found in the fifth round, is not fully recovered from a partially torn ACL from the final game of the season. The injury did not require surgery. The club expects him to be ready for the start of training camp. After 2005, when the 49ers were picking up free-agent corners off the street and sticking them in the starting lineup, the club has at least built some depth at this spot. A decent player will probably be let go after camp. Marcus Hudson and Donald Strickland, along with Smith, Brown and Spencer will duke it out for backup spots.

Center Cody Wallace

What it means for him The fourth-round selection comes to the 49ers as a backup to Eric Heitmann. It would be very difficult for a rookie to win a starting job at center over a guy who has been around like Heitmann. So much of the center position is having a grasp for the team's protections and a concept of what the defense is doing.

What it means for others Heitmann is scheduled to be a free agent at the end of the season. Perhaps, they're lining up their contingency plan. Or, Nolan mentioned that Heitmann is capable of moving to guard, too. With Wallace on the team, obviously the 49ers are not projecting Baas as the next center. This is a big season for Baas, who is signed through 2009. If he has yet to establish himself as a starter, the club might decide he does not fit into their future plans. The 49ers want Adam Snyder to play guard, but I can't help but think the 49ers have the makings of a good long-term offensive line with Joe Staley and Snyder at the tackles, Baas and Rachal at the guards and Wallace at center.

Receiver Josh Morgan

What it means for him There is not a bona fide No. 1 receiver on the team, so the door is wide open for this sixth-rounder to prove he can be of value to the 49ers. Playing time will be difficult to find as a rookie. He'll have to adjust to Mike Martz's offense and Jerry Sullivan's detailed coaching. He will have to battle through the frustration of learning things that are completely new to him. But Morgan definitely has a chance to stick around. If he takes advantage of some chances, he could work into a significant role. He better come to training camp in great shape. Rookies have never worked like they will during their first NFL training camp. And rookie receivers, in particular, are susceptible to leg injuries.

What it means for others Jason Hill and Ashley Lelie must get off to a great starts to work their way into positions to get more practice reps. Isaac Bruce, Bryant Johnson and Arnaz Battle don't seem to be going anywhere. Morgan, conceivably, could push Hill or Lelie back a notch.

Linebacker Larry Grant

What it means for him The good news for this seventh-round pick is that he projects at a position where the starting job is up for grabs. He'll have an opportunity to compete for the starting "ted' linebacker job. Although it's unlikely he'll win the starting job, Grant can still make a major impact on special teams as a rookie. But the 49ers might keep only four inside linebackers, which means that while he has an outside chance to win a starting job, he is also fighting for a roster spot.

What it means for others If the 49ers had grabbed Curtis Lofton in the first round, Dontarrious Thomas would have been replaced as a starter before ever starting a game. Grant's acquisition appears to mean that Brandon Moore is, again, pushed to the background. Nolan said Thomas, Jeff Ulbrich and Grant would line up and compete at the "ted," while Brandon Moore will be Patrick Willis' backup at the "mike." The "ted" is the strong inside linebacker position. The team is obviously not convinced Moore has the ability to get off blocks effectively enough to play on the strong side. The door remains open for the 49ers to pursue veteran Takeo Spikes, who is returning from season-ending surgery on his rotator cuff. The Eagles released him (failed physical) earlier this offseason. Because Spikes would play the strong inside position, he would be taking on more blockers, thus exposing himself to more collisions.

 

[passback]

3-13

 

[pacmagic2002]

Naaa......I say 8-8 or 9-7

 

[acidicality]

bein optimistic- 9-7 or 8-8
more realistically- 6-10 or 7-9

 

[nothingtol0se]

imma say 8-8

. even though there's about 4 FOR SURE $$# whoopin' but that's about it

 

[vietsta4o8]

16-0. book it

 

[orlando827]

yeah, the niners' schedule looks pretty difficult to me. i wanna say 8-8 or better. im glad we didnt get a receiver in the early rounds and wanna see whatjason hill can do if he gets more time on the field.

 

[niketalker23]

We keep hearing that the more Niners offensive coordinator Mike Martz works with QB Alex Smith, the more excited he gets. Martz apparently has told some of his confidantes that Smith could be the best quarterback he's worked with on the pro level.
http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/The+Way+We+Hear+It/Whispers/2008/whispers050308.htm

 

[tupac jordan]

I'm the biggest 49er fan ever and I think we should just give up just let the franchise die.

 

[acidicality]

Alex Smith is always optimistic before the season starts though....so honestly the fact that he's "clicking" with Martz doesn't mean jack tome until it translates onto the field.

 

[niketalker23]

Originally Posted by Tupac Jordan

I'm the biggest 49er fan ever and I think we should just give up just let the franchise die.

Why don't you gather up all your fellow Raider fans, and go play in your black hole.

 

[patrickcakes]

Originally Posted by Tupac Jordan

I'm the biggest 49er fan ever and I think we should just give up just let the franchise die.

 

[5288]

Originally Posted by Tupac Jordan

I'm the biggest 49er fan ever and I think we should just give up just let the franchise die.

Niketalker23 is the biggest 49er fan here, not you

6-10

 

[orlando827]

gore gonna be wearing the dark visor this season?

if youve ever bought an eric johnson jersey, youre in luck.

smith + hill

c'mon breakout season....the future....is... ours!!!!!