**OFFICIAL 2019 NBA OFFSEASON THREAD**

[vood99]

what AI did in 2001 was a miracle. he carried eric, snow mckie and matt geiger to the finals. its one of those series as alaker fan where i was hoping the 76ers could stretch the series to 7.

Snow, McKie and Dikembe were quite good tbh.

 

[Lovetohate3000]

If we being honest with it. Kobe might be out the top ten real soon.

 

[addict4sneakers]

If we being honest with it. Kobe might be out the top ten real soon.

Oh yeah we going there.

 

[elpablo21]

live look inside the warriors locker room as the team welcomes back Draymond Green

 

[ill steelo]

Your not winning 4 in a row. So after 3 peat who cares, go do what you want.

All them boys dipping.

GSW has the best top 4 we’ve ever seen and next year those 4 guys are only going to be 28-31. As a team, they’re a 1 of 1. So I can’t say they can’t do something because nobody else had done it before. That’s all the more reason to stay together IMO. You sit at a table only occupied by yourself, you’re immortal.

 

[dacomeup]

So he has increased EVERY statistical category since leaving OKC.

Even if you ERASE the rings, how HASN'T his legacy increased since leaving?

Is this directed at me? Don't see how we're saying anything that conflicts here.

 

[MVP]

If we being honest with it. Kobe might be out the top ten real soon.

LOL

11x All NBA 1st team
18x All Star
9x All NBA defense 1st team
Top 5 scorer of all time
League MVP
2x scoring champion
5x champion
2x finals MVP

Y'all better stop being dumb

 

[dman14]

steph only missed extended time twice in his career during the reg season. ya acting like he is cpzero

 

[mrswagtastic]

I want to believe it’s an injury

 

[akajae]

i need somebody to make me a kd superman avy like my bron batman one

 

[DCAllAfrican]

Is this directed at me? Don't see how we're saying anything that conflicts here.

Nah, I am not saying it AGAINST you, I was just saying it after quoting you.

 

[drewsone]

Nah Kobe staying in the top 10 for sure lol

 

[JD617]

Over AI based on what? AI has a MVP

An MVP that should've gone to Shaq. Harden has an MVP too, that he actually deserved.

He beat prime Shaq & Kobe by himself basically and thwarted what was going to be the best playoff run ever.

So this is based on one game? Makes sense. And it wasn't really by himself. Kobe did as much as Iverson to help Philly win that game. 7-22 shooting with 6 turnovers.

"But Iverson's 2001 run"

Against juggernauts like the 2001 Pacers, Raptors, and Bucks, and they needed extremely one-sided officiating to get past Milwaukee. Meanwhile Harden's teams have lost to the Warriors 3 times.

 

[vood99]

Is there no straight answer for Markelle Fultz's jumper? Nerve damage? Mental health?

I can't even laugh cuz it's sad.

Fultz ain't a #1, he was drafted way too high. Plenty of cats before him drafted way too high so he's not the first to be in this situation.

FWIW, Philly ain't pressing him too hard as they have Simmons, Embiid and Butler now so the onus is entirely on him to be serviceable.

 

[HIM]

How some of y’all put harden over AI is unimaginable. His 2001 run is better than anything Haden’s ever sniffed. Not to mention everything else he achieved.

We talking about the same 2001 run where Dikembe avg 16 and 15 with 3 blocks in the ECF? The same ECF finals where AI shot 34% for the entire series? The same series where Dikembe went 22 and 19 with 7 blocks in game 7?

Dikembe gave them 14 and 14 with 3 blocks a gme that postseason. Iverson gave them 39.8% shooting.

 

[addict4sneakers]

We talking about the same 2001 run where Dikembe avg 16 and 15 with 3 blocks in the ECF? The same ECF finals where AI shot 34% for the entire series? The same series where Dikembe went 22 and 19 with 7 blocks?

Humongous factual information

 

[VARNELL HILL]

Fultz ain't a #1, he was drafted way too high. Plenty of cats before him drafted way too high so he's not the first to be in this situation.

FWIW, Philly ain't pressing him too hard as they have Simmons, Embiid and Butler now so the onus is entirely on him to be serviceable.

If we're talking about Fultz before ShoulderGate...he is absolutely a #1 pick in MOST drafts

 

[Tony $now]

Imagine calling someone who averages
26/5/6 on 50/40/89

For his career in the playoffs Not a playoff performer or top ten in the offs. What world is this. Name ten current players in the NBA with better playoff averages

People talk to just talk. Especially on NT when mediocre players are praised and tagged as having next but players that have proven to be great are picked apart and labeled overrated and not that good

Example such and such averages 28/8/7 and his team wins a title. Some clown will post “he’s overrated and not that good” you can tell by post who’s actually played sports in real life. If you’re a hooper you know exactly how difficult it is to replicate what the elite do one time in a game, let alone for multiple games.

 

[everysingletime]

Fultz ain't a #1, he was drafted way too high. Plenty of cats before him drafted way too high so he's not the first to be in this situation.

FWIW, Philly ain't pressing him too hard as they have Simmons, Embiid and Butler now so the onus is entirely on him to be serviceable.

That's not even what I'm asking. Seems like his jumper was OK in college and now his J is regressing. His jumper is like the Benjamin Button of jumpers.

 

[DCAllAfrican]

Man, seriously.

This whole, "By himself" narrative needs to stop. Stop believing this stuff man. It doesn't happen. Nobody is successful BY THEMSELVES.

Do better fellas.

 

[vood99]

An MVP that should've gone to Shaq. Harden has an MVP too, that he actually deserved.



So this is based on one game? Makes sense. And it wasn't really by himself. Kobe did as much as Iverson to help Philly win that game. 7-22 shooting with 6 turnovers.

"But Iverson's 2001 run"

Against juggernauts like the 2001 Pacers, Raptors, and Bucks, and they needed extremely one-sided officiating to get past Milwaukee. Meanwhile Harden's teams have lost to the Warriors 3 times.

East was absolutely horrid in the early to mid '00s. FWIW, '03-'04 Lakers would've put the Pistons away had they not imploded with all the distractions.

 

[DCAllAfrican]

No disrespect, he IS and will always be my dude.

But is Kobe being Top 10 even a consensus thing?

 

[vood99]

That's not even what I'm asking. Seems like his jumper was OK in college and now his J is regressing. His jumper is like the Benjamin Button of jumpers.

I hear you, looks like a confidence issue coupled with the pressure of being #1.

 

[vood99]

No disrespect, he IS and will always be my dude.

But is Kobe being Top 10 even a consensus thing?

Not much difference between this thread and 'Fools Wildin' in the last few pages.

 

[monstar]

How some of y’all put harden over AI is unimaginable. His 2001 run is better than anything Haden’s ever sniffed. Not to mention everything else he achieved.

Im taking AI over Harden anyday. AI was playing a game at 6"1' that gaurds werent supposed to be playing not too mention he was running through hand checks getting fouled not trying to just create contact. AI is a gem only knock is not winning a title but honestly he had no chance of beating that Lakers team , not too mention he got literally no help. McKie was 2nd best player on that team

Also the Steph slander is crazy this man has changed the game, MVP

Too me talent equates to skill + physical ability. Steph comes up short in the physical ability part.

This statement makes no sense, so we gon literally sit here and act like Deron Williams and CP werent the 2 best pg's in the league at one time? Both of which play below the rim. Honestly outside of Baron Davis aint to many small PG's from that era that was banging on people and I mean actual PG do not mention Steve Francis that wasnt his role until Mobley got there