Official 2017 Boxing Thread: 12/16 - Billy Joe Saunders vs. David Lemieux HBO

[doublemesh96]

I bust out in laughter every time espn uses this poor photoshop

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[Bobby Layne]

 Boxing Leaks‏ @BoxingLeaks  29m29 minutes ago
Replying to @steveucnlive
I still go to Ivy Fund site to check PBC valuation for ***** and giggles.  97% of the value gone poof.  Haymon still owns three planes tho.

 Just Steve Again‏ @steveucnlive  56m56 minutes ago
 'the World Wide Leader' is going to be getting deep into #boxing soon, that's not a bad thing... #4LetterNetwork

 Boxing Leaks‏ @BoxingLeaks  44m44 minutes ago
Replying to @steveucnlive
I'm hearing ESPN won't be paying for it though.

 Just Steve Again‏ @steveucnlive  41m41 minutes ago
 no, time buy with the help of a hedge fund(sound familiar?) Hey, where have you been hiding out?

Looks like TR is doing a time buy series on ESPN.  I wondering if this is were the Pac fight, and where the Bud and Loma fights are going to end up. 

 

[retiredkicks]

Can't knock Kovalev for walking out like he did. Remember, he broke camp to go do the face off and Ward never showed up.

 

[Air Pope]

I see no praise in here

Quit slurping Ward

You sound upset. Pause at that last one too.

 

[Air Pope]

Weird how y'all dislike Ward so much, yet praise Kov for doing **** like this.

I could be wrong, but I don't see one reply "praising" or even commenting on what kovalev did in the video since it was posted lol

Praising in general. I mean it's cool to dislike Ward, but there are a lot of fanboys who act like Kov does nothing wrong. I respek it though.

 

[niketalker23]

I dislike both but will be rooting for Ward due to Kovalev being racist as ****.

 

[Bobby Layne]

Weird how y'all dislike Ward so much, yet praise Kov for doing **** like this.

I could be wrong, but I don't see one reply "praising" or even commenting on what kovalev did in the video since it was posted lol

Praising in general. I mean it's cool to dislike Ward, but there are a lot of fanboys who act like Kov does nothing wrong. I respek it though.

In this thread?

I mean I like him as a fighter but have no problem admitting dude is racist as hell.


This kind of reminds me when dudes would get on Floyd stans for supporting a habitual women beater.

You can like a fighter and not the person.

 

[Bobby Layne]

The reality is boxing recruits from the lowest of the low socioeconomicly wise and we really don't know who any of these guys are and what they have done.

I mean a seemingly nice guy like GGG used to run around with a gang in KZ and beat the **** out of random dudes in the street with his brothers.

This is the wrong sport to be trying to look for "good guys" to get behind.

 

[krazyrodzilla]

I bust out in laughter every time espn uses this poor photoshop

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HORRIBLE! They stay using this pic too [emoji]128514[/emoji][emoji]128514[/emoji][emoji]128514[/emoji]

 

[nermindee]

eh... I dont see kovalev leaving as a sign of being mentally defeated or anything like that... I just see a guy who is tired of Wards mouth and can't wait for Saturday night...

and this whole smoke about Virgil training Ward to knock Kovalev out is stupid... Ward will fight exactly the way he did the second half of the first fight. He will fight defensively in the beginning and try to get Kovalev to tire himself out. I expect Ward to turn up his ugly tactics when they get in on the inside (hug, elbow, grab, duck below the waist) but its never to the point where he gets warned or deducted a point... if it goes to decision, Ward wins... If Kovalev is going for the knockout, it has to come early cus I dont think he has the stamina and strength to do it late.

 

[Kaleo15]

Kovalev gonna remind y'all this Saturday.

I predict 2 early knockdowns, then Ward winning mid rounds, then slug fest late rounds.

... with Kovalev winning majority decision.

 

[freakydestroyer]

eh... I dont see kovalev leaving as a sign of being mentally defeated or anything like that... I just see a guy who is tired of Wards mouth and can't wait for Saturday night...

and this whole smoke about Virgil training Ward to knock Kovalev out is stupid... Ward will fight exactly the way he did the second half of the first fight. He will fight defensively in the beginning and try to get Kovalev to tire himself out. I expect Ward to turn up his ugly tactics when they get in on the inside (hug, elbow, grab, duck below the waist) but its never to the point where he gets warned or deducted a point... if it goes to decision, Ward wins... If Kovalev is going for the knockout, it has to come early cus I dont think he has the stamina and strength to do it late.

Don't take anything from team Ward at face value. They're just playing mind games.

As far as the fight goes, I also seeing Ward fight much like he did in the later rounds. He knows he has to take advantage of his inside fighting and avoid giving Kovalev the range he needs. Kovalev needs to feint more and head-hunt less. Ward 115-112 is my prediction.

 

[nermindee]

Don't take anything from team Ward at face value. They're just playing mind games.

As far as the fight goes, I also seeing Ward fight much like he did in the later rounds. He knows he has to take advantage of his inside fighting and avoid giving Kovalev the range he needs. Ward 115-112 is my prediction.

yes yes that is what I was trying to say. I was trying say no1 is dumb enough to believe Virgil and that it's just a lame attempt at playing mind games...
but I wish for an entertaining close fight.

 

[jking0821]

If i had to pick who i like better...like as a person...Ward by far. Kovalev is a piece of trash.

But personality aside. I think Kovalev just needs to be conditioned to go the full fight. If he doesn't wear down in the middle rounds I think he wins. But thats what makes the fight so intriguing to me. Did Ward actually figure it out later in fight 1. Will Kovalev switch it up?

I think Ward could dance his way to a decision. But credit to him if he comes in and tries to fight inside he could get caught. The knockdown in the first fight was basically a glancing blow. Didn't land flush. But Ward could hold and fight inside and keep it close the whole fight and take a decisions too.

Im going Kovalev UD say he knocks ward down again but gets the benefit out the doubt in the closer rounds.

 

[onlyjs]

View media item 2467000Ward vs. Kovalev. Kovalev purse will be listed as zero. His money is strictly a percentage of tickets and PPV revenue.

 

[tomdiginson]

The press conference will be 1000000x more entertaining than the actual fight itself.

This.

 

[doublemesh96]

View media item 2467000Ward vs. Kovalev. Kovalev purse will be listed as zero. His money is strictly a percentage of tickets and PPV revenue.

Has this been done before??

 

[you go boy]

I like Ward in this fight by decision. I think he will box more and move a lot. He knows what not do since he fought kovalev before and try to avoid the knockdown. This will be similar to Mayweather maidana rematch imo

 

[rfx45]

Why Mayweather-McGregor is such a crushing blow to Oscar De La Hoya and HBO

With one stroke of the pen on Wednesday, Floyd Mayweather and Showtime scored a triple play on arch-rival HBO.

Mayweather signed to fight UFC lightweight champion Conor McGregor in a bout that figures to generate more than $500 million in gross revenue on Aug. 26 in Las Vegas.

That deal, first reported by Yahoo Sports, was devastating to three separate HBO fights: Saturday’s light heavyweight title match between Andre Ward and Sergey Kovalev in Las Vegas; the Aug. 26 super welterweight bout between Miguel Cotto and Yoshihiro Kamegai in Carson, Calif.; and the Sept. 16 mega-bout in Las Vegas between Canelo Alvarez and Gennady Golovkin for the middleweight title.

Ward-Kovalev is an outstanding match that looks like it will struggle badly at the box office. Promoters at Thursday’s news conference were pleading with the gathered media for coverage to what should be a sensational bout. But when it was reported that the Mayweather-McGregor fight was on, the Ward-Kovalev fight was largely ignored.

And while it will get some coverage this week, the volume and the significance of it will be greatly diminished by all the attention given to Mayweather-McGregor.

There wasn’t much interest in Cotto-Kamegai in the first place, but it will be all but impossible for that show to receive any media coverage whatsoever given it is going directly opposite Mayweather-McGregor.

Then there is the case of the long-awaited Alvarez-Golovkin bout for middleweight supremacy. Promoter Oscar De La Hoya took his sweet time putting it together, even though fans were clamoring for it in late 2015 after Alvarez bested Cotto to win a version of the middleweight title.

De La Hoya, though, resisted and didn’t make the bout until last month, after Alvarez defeated Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. in a meaningless bout that nevertheless managed to sell 1 million on pay-per-view and did a $10 million gate.

He was gloating when the pay-per-view numbers came out, believing his decision to wait on making Alvarez-Golovkin had been vindicated. And he then went and spoke out publicly against the Mayweather-McGregor bout, urging fans not to support it, even though only a few months ago he stood outside a Los Angeles bar in the wee hours of the morning and told TMZ that McGregor should fight Alvarez instead of Mayweather.

Mayweather, who has much personal disdain for De La Hoya, turned the tables on the Golden Boy, though, when he put his bout with McGregor a few weeks before De La Hoya’s big one.

From a competitive standpoint, there is no choice between the top bouts. Alvarez-Golovkin is arguably the best fight that can be made in boxing and pits the two best middleweights in the world for divisional supremacy.

McGregor has never boxed, and the consensus is that he’ll get blown out by Mayweather.

However, the best fights aren’t always the ones that sell. Mayweather and McGregor are two of the best trash talkers in history, and their bout is almost guaranteed to be the best promotion ever, at least until the first bell rings.

Then, all bets are off, though the promoters will have by that point made a financial killing. Mayweather-McGregor interest is off-the-charts high, and has at least a chance to top the record of 4.6 million pay-per-view sales that Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao set in 2015.

They’ll take airtime and media space away from Alvarez-Golovkin. Alvarez speaks next to no English and Golovkin’s English still isn’t great. They’re far better at punching than promoting.

Fans are also going to spend a lot of money just three weeks before Alvarez-Golovkin, and history has shown that can impact sales. It’s doubly hard when the intensity of the media coverage promoters were planning on for that show will be cut significantly by Mayweather-McGregor coverage.

Boxing is as unpredictable of a sport as there is, and when a promoter has an opportunity to make what would be a big fight, he should take it. An NFL game that loses a star player to injury will still go on, and ticket sales won’t suffer.

In boxing, though, where shows are sold on the strength of name recognition and fighter marketability, it’s curtains.

A fighter could get injured or lose or fail a drug test. There are any number of things that could happen which would prevent the match from being made.

Now, De La Hoya must find a way to recapture the media’s attention after the tornado that will be Mayweather-McGregor blows away.

It’s not going to be easy.

In late 2009, a potential featherweight bout between Juan Manuel Lopez and Yuriorkis Gamboa was beginning to stir passion among boxing fans. Both had aggressive, fan-friendly styles, and while it wouldn’t have been a massive show, it was the kind of fight that gets the hardcore fan base excited and keeps the media interested.

They fought on the same card on Jan. 23, 2010, and all the talk after that show centered around a match between the two. But promoter Bob Arum infamously said he wanted to let it “marinate,” and it wound up never happening.

Whenever a promoter talks about allowing a fight to marinate, it’s a bad, bad, bad thing. Scream long and loud in protest.

Allowing Alvarez-Golovkin to marinate resulted in having the Mayweather-McGregor pay-per-view dropped on top of it.

Mayweather once fought for HBO, before leaping to Showtime in 2013.

On Thursday, he did the most damage to his ex-network since he signed that Showtime deal by putting the McGregor fight on Aug. 26.

Hopefully, it will serve as a lesson. When fans are calling for a fight, give it to them as soon as reasonably possible.

 

[Lake Shore Drive]

I don't even want to talk about the Mayweather Mcgregor fight.

Agreed.

Don't nobody give a damn about a mayweather vs mcgregor circus show.


On a serious note, I fully expect Ward vs Kovalev to be a slugfest. That beef has been cooking for quite a while now and both fighters are done talking. Don't feel as confident dropping bread on SOG as I did before but I'm amped for this bout.
Can't wait!

 

[Bobby Layne]

People are overreacting to the effect Floyd-Connor is going to have on the GGG-Canelita fight. 

Floyd's evidently had a hold on that date for a while, and the overlap in instrest for the two events isn't really all that similar. 

 

[Bobby Layne]

 

[snkrfollower]

People are overreacting to the effect Floyd-Connor is going to have on the GGG-Canelita fight. 


Floyd's evidently had a hold on that date for a while, and the overlap in instrest for the two events isn't really all that similar. 

Exactly. The only X factor driving the circus' PPV sales and overall interest is the wallets and eyeballs of MMA fans who don't normally watch boxing.

And the way for Oscar/HBO to sell GGG-Canelo after the circus has left town is simply to say "Well, you just got played by Floyd to watch a garbage sparring match, now get ready to watch an absolute slugfest that will likely be one of the most talked-about fights (in a good way) of the decade."

 

[yungmatt]

And the new!

 

[doublemesh96]

And still!