Official 2016-2017 NBA Season Thread - NBA rules Chris Bosh has a career ending injury

[Lovetohate3000]

Don't believe Okc wins a chip with the 3 and Okc would been better off with harden. Players care about stats, equals more money and accolades matter to these dudes. Winning isn't the most important thing to players.
Not everyone can be the warriors.

 

[MVP]

So Westbrook finishes with the 4 seed and averages a triple double there's NO chance?!

 

[Maximus Meridius]

So Westbrook finishes with the 4 seed and averages a triple double there's NO chance?!

Exactly. Who man's are these?

 

[addict4sneakers]

But okc isn't finishing 4th doe.

Warriors
Rockets
Clippers
Spurs

BHZzlies/jazz/ thunder

 

[tyevvyotcu]

Harden is still the same dude to me. He just got a coach who fits him. Great offensive player and that's it. I still think he's behind Lebron, KD, Russ, Steph, Kawhi.

lmao
russ and steph are "great offensive players and that's it"

 

[antidope]

IDK who said that, but the MVP Voting has changed, and I dont think OKC finishes that high. I had them missing the playoffs in pre-season.

Russell Westbrook has no chance. 
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Fourth seed is already pushing it, but a team that is floating around the 7th seed to missing the playoffs?

 

[MVP]

But okc isn't finishing 4th doe.

Warriors
Rockets
Clippers
Spurs

BHZzlies/jazz/ thunder

What are the lottery numbers? Houston isn't finishing 3rd either.

Also love the fact that everyone is assuming injuries to OKC like they haven't been without Dipo their 2nd best player for 8 games and still are tied with Utah right now with the same record and yet assume health with Houston when their own 2nd best player in EG is as injury prone as they come.

 

[phar0]

averaging a triple double for the season is hard to ignore

 

[Maximus Meridius]

Harden is still the same dude to me. He just got a coach who fits him. Great offensive player and that's it. I still think he's behind Lebron, KD, Russ, Steph, Kawhi.

lmao
russ and steph are "great offensive players and that's it"

Ok.


And I would still take them over Harden.

 

[tyevvyotcu]

that's fine but your logic was pretty dumb. its like me saying I would take Bron over Russ because Russ can't shoot

 

[hardens beard]

Ok.


And I would still take them over Harden.

What does Westbrook do better than harden to make him a definitely better player?

 

[antidope]

 

But okc isn't finishing 4th doe.

Warriors
Rockets
Clippers
Spurs

BHZzlies/jazz/ thunder

What are the lottery numbers? Houston isn't finishing 3rd either.

Also love the fact that everyone is assuming injuries to OKC like they haven't been without Dipo their 2nd best player for 8 games and still are tied with Utah right now with the same record and yet assume health with Houston when their own 2nd best player in EG is as injury prone as they come.

I've had the Thunder missing the playoffs all year for what its worth.

Stephen Adams is their second best player.

 

[P C H]

Says James only plays ond side of the ball

But would take Russ over james

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[tyevvyotcu]

russ does nothing better than harden man. even russ' stat line this year isn't that much more impressive than harden's and harden's team is doing much better

 

[MVP]

russ does nothing better than harden man. even russ' stat line this year isn't that much more impressive than harden's and harden's team is doing much better

Where's that chart where Russ is by far the one PG with the good offense, good defense from this year?

 

[JD617]

Houston isn't finishing 3rd either.

So Warriors, Spurs... which other team is finishing ahead of the Rockets?

 

[tyevvyotcu]

i highly doubt that. i'm sure wall cp3 and lowry would definitely be in that class too if anything but i could be wrong

 

[pmatic]

I wouldn't be surprised if the Rockets finishes with the two seed. They have a slightly higher point differential and you know the Spurs are going to rest players.

 

[JD617]

I agree.

 

[MVP]

i highly doubt that. i'm sure wall cp3 and lowry would definitely be in that class too if anything but i could be wrong

Here's through the 29th of December. Not only does Russ account for more offensively, goods defensive value is damn near on part with Geek 8 Freak. at he does nothing better than Harden.

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You want it to be one way but it's the other way...

 

[tyevvyotcu]

idk what you were proving?
that chart doesn't mean russ is the only pg with good offense and defense lmao.
not only that but harden is on the chart too
what was your purpose in posting that [emoji]128514[/emoji]

 

[MVP]

idk what you were proving?
that chart doesn't mean russ is the only pg with good offense and defense lmao.
not only that but harden is on the chart too.
and you proved my point because cp3 lowry and wall are all right there.
what was your purpose in posting that [emoji]128514[/emoji]

Look at the 2nd chart. The offensive points added, Russ is ahead. The defensive points saved he's way ahead of Harden trailing only Draymond and Greek Freak. TPA he's WAAAAAY ahead of everyone, which was my initial point. He's having possibly the greatest all around season since MJ in 88 on both sides of the ball all while averaging a triple double, it's absurd.

 

[tyevvyotcu]

that chart says russ has a greater defensive impact than gobert lmao.
it says that jimmy is a bad defender
it says that kawhi is on par with harden as a defender
you advanced stats dudes are annoying

 

[Lovetohate3000]

that chart says russ has a greater defensive impact than gobert lmao.
it says that jimmy is a bad defender
it says that kawhi is on par with harden as a defender
you advanced stats dudes are annoying

pretty much. That's a ridiculous chart. Lot of point guards Have great games against the thunder. Russ isn't a Defender In fact I target Okc against pgs in fantasy for a reason.

 

[pums]

What are the lottery numbers? Houston isn't finishing 3rd either.

Also love the fact that everyone is assuming injuries to OKC like they haven't been without Dipo their 2nd best player for 8 games and still are tied with Utah right now with the same record and yet assume health with Houston when their own 2nd best player in EG is as injury prone as they come.

Ariza and Bev are more important than Gordon also Bev and Capela missed a few games already. Westbrooks defense numbers are also good cause he plays with players who are defensive specialist it seems and when he gets subbed out kanter abrines and Morrow play so by that he has good stats but watchin Russ play I don't know how you can call him a good defender