OFFICIAL 2010-2011 NBA PLAYOFFS THREAD : VOL. MOST. ANTICIPATED. PLAYOFFS. EVER?

Atta boy.
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Way to keep us going with Dirk on the bench!

Marion and Caron.
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About time these cats start to show up in big games.
 
Sources: NBA considers buying Hornets

The NBA is weighing whether to buy the New Orleans Hornets from longtime owner George Shinn to have greater control over the permanent sale of the franchise, according to sources with knowledge of the league's thinking.

Two sources likened the NBA's potential involvement to Major League Baseball's purchase of the Montreal Expos before the team was ultimately sold and moved to the nation's capital as the Washington Nationals in 2005.

It's believed, though, that the NBA's intent -- if it goes through with buying the Hornets -- would be to try to secure a buyer willing and able to keep the franchise in New Orleans now that Shinn's anticipated sale to minority partner Gary Chouest has apparently collapsed.

The New Orleans Times-Picayune, after ESPN.com's initial report about the possibility of the Hornets becoming the first franchise owned and operated by the league, quoted sources on its website Friday night saying that Chouest no longer thinks he can devote the time needed to run an NBA team as well as his private business.

The league office and the Hornets declined requests from comment Friday from ESPN.com.

Shinn controversially moved the Hornets from Charlotte to New Orleans for the 2002-03 season and the team was later forced to make Oklahoma City its home for two seasons in the wake of Hurricane Katrina. The Times-Picayune reported earlier this week that the Hornets can opt out of their current lease with the state of Louisiana and might have the freedom to move yet again if they average less than 14,213 fans during a 13-game stretch of home dates between Dec. 1 and Jan. 17.

The Hornets averaged just 13,826 fans through their first nine home games despite the team's promising 13-5 start and attracted a crowd of 14,020 for Friday night's home loss to the New York Knicks.

The future of the Hornets has commanded strong interest throughout the league since Shinn's plans to sell the team to Chouest were revealed back in April, largely because Shinn's ongoing presence and limited financial resources are widely seen as factors that would prompt star guard Chris Paul to leave the only team he's ever played for when he's eligible to become a free agent in the summer of 2012.

Great local optimism initially greeted the news that Chouest would be taking over, but fears that his deal to buy out Shinn would collapse have been mounting for months because so much time has passed with almost nothing said publicly by either side about the state of the sale. Chouest's primary business interests, furthermore, are in the offshore service industry, which took a heavy hit after the recent BP oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico.

The Hornets have maintained for weeks that Chouest would likely still complete the sale before the end of the 2010 calendar year. Although the Louisiana native has not granted interviews about his plans for buying or running the team, Chouest has maintained a very visible presence at the team's home games, unlike Shinn.

But the Times-Picayune reported on its website Friday night that Chouest has withdrawn his offer and that he did not attend Friday's game against New York.

Hornets team president Hugh Weber told Sports Illustrated as recently as last week that he continued to believe Chouest will ultimately emerge with operational control of the team. In last week's issue of the magazine, Weber expressed skepticism that the league would step in.

Referring to NBA commissioner David Stern, Weber was quoted as saying: "I don't think he likes the idea of running organizations like this."

Sports Illustrated reported that the prospect of the NBA assuming temporary control of the Hornets, much like MLB did with the Expos, was discussed at the league's Board of Governors meetings in October.

Amid the sale uncertainty, New Orleans has been trying for months to convince skeptics that Paul will not be made available to interested teams under any circumstances. Numerous clubs besieged the Hornets with trade calls about Paul throughout last season, but external interest only increased after a June interview with ESPN The Magazine's Chris Broussard in which Paul said he wants to remain in New Orleans but would be "open to a trade" if the Hornets aren't trying to compete financially with the league's elite.

Weber responded with a housecleaning that led to the hiring of general manager Dell Demps from San Antonio to team with rookie coach and former Spurs teammate Monty Williams. Through a series of aggressive trades, improved defense and with Williams and Paul bonding quickly, New Orleans followed up a painful preseason with a stunning 11-1 start. Team officials also pointed to the $15 million in additional salaries that the Hornets have absorbed as a sign that the team is on its most solid financial footing in some time with Chouest more involved than Shinn.

Paul has generally revealed little in the way of firm declarations about how the Hornets' brightened outlook affects his future plans, but he has acknowledged in numerous interviews that he's excited by the team's new direction under Demps and Williams while reiterating his fondness for New Orleans after establishing deep roots in the city.

"I'm excited about my teammates," Paul told ESPN.com on Nov. 15. "We've got a lot of guys on our team that are hungry. I think we're in a good spot right now."

Back in August, Weber expressed confidence that majority control would eventually be transferred from Shinn to Chouest, telling ESPN.com: "We have two great partners that have a similar mission that they're trying to get accomplished. George does want to sell this team -- I think it's time for him to move on -- and Gary does want to run it."

It was widely reported in early May that Shinn and Chouest had struck an agreement in principle for Chouest -- who possesses a 25 percent stake in the franchise -- to become majority owner. Delays were initially attributed to haggles over the final purchase price and Chouest's reported search for new minority investors to reduce his overall investment. But media reports in Louisiana during the summer estimated that Chouest's company, Edison Chouest Offshore, absorbed significant financial losses in the wake of the BP oil spill, which is regarded as the worst spill in North American history.

Shinn founded the Hornets in 1988 and announced last season that -- now in remission after being diagnosed with prostate cancer a year ago -- he was prepared to sell his majority stake. It's been a controversial two-decade run from Shinn with a franchise that moved away from its fervent followers in Charlotte largely because of the locals' distaste for the owner.

The Times-Picayune reported Monday that the Hornets would be free to relocate if the 14,735-fan benchmark is not reached for the 13 games specified, but actually leaving New Orleans would require a $10 million exit penalty payable to the state and a formal notice to Louisiana no later than March 1, 2011.

Weber told the newspaper that the franchise isn't looking to relocate again, saying: "We all know basketball can work in New Orleans. We've seen it work."
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Sources: NBA considers buying Hornets

The NBA is weighing whether to buy the New Orleans Hornets from longtime owner George Shinn to have greater control over the permanent sale of the franchise, according to sources with knowledge of the league's thinking.

Two sources likened the NBA's potential involvement to Major League Baseball's purchase of the Montreal Expos before the team was ultimately sold and moved to the nation's capital as the Washington Nationals in 2005.

It's believed, though, that the NBA's intent -- if it goes through with buying the Hornets -- would be to try to secure a buyer willing and able to keep the franchise in New Orleans now that Shinn's anticipated sale to minority partner Gary Chouest has apparently collapsed.

The New Orleans Times-Picayune, after ESPN.com's initial report about the possibility of the Hornets becoming the first franchise owned and operated by the league, quoted sources on its website Friday night saying that Chouest no longer thinks he can devote the time needed to run an NBA team as well as his private business.

The league office and the Hornets declined requests from comment Friday from ESPN.com.

Shinn controversially moved the Hornets from Charlotte to New Orleans for the 2002-03 season and the team was later forced to make Oklahoma City its home for two seasons in the wake of Hurricane Katrina. The Times-Picayune reported earlier this week that the Hornets can opt out of their current lease with the state of Louisiana and might have the freedom to move yet again if they average less than 14,213 fans during a 13-game stretch of home dates between Dec. 1 and Jan. 17.

The Hornets averaged just 13,826 fans through their first nine home games despite the team's promising 13-5 start and attracted a crowd of 14,020 for Friday night's home loss to the New York Knicks.

The future of the Hornets has commanded strong interest throughout the league since Shinn's plans to sell the team to Chouest were revealed back in April, largely because Shinn's ongoing presence and limited financial resources are widely seen as factors that would prompt star guard Chris Paul to leave the only team he's ever played for when he's eligible to become a free agent in the summer of 2012.

Great local optimism initially greeted the news that Chouest would be taking over, but fears that his deal to buy out Shinn would collapse have been mounting for months because so much time has passed with almost nothing said publicly by either side about the state of the sale. Chouest's primary business interests, furthermore, are in the offshore service industry, which took a heavy hit after the recent BP oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico.

The Hornets have maintained for weeks that Chouest would likely still complete the sale before the end of the 2010 calendar year. Although the Louisiana native has not granted interviews about his plans for buying or running the team, Chouest has maintained a very visible presence at the team's home games, unlike Shinn.

But the Times-Picayune reported on its website Friday night that Chouest has withdrawn his offer and that he did not attend Friday's game against New York.

Hornets team president Hugh Weber told Sports Illustrated as recently as last week that he continued to believe Chouest will ultimately emerge with operational control of the team. In last week's issue of the magazine, Weber expressed skepticism that the league would step in.

Referring to NBA commissioner David Stern, Weber was quoted as saying: "I don't think he likes the idea of running organizations like this."

Sports Illustrated reported that the prospect of the NBA assuming temporary control of the Hornets, much like MLB did with the Expos, was discussed at the league's Board of Governors meetings in October.

Amid the sale uncertainty, New Orleans has been trying for months to convince skeptics that Paul will not be made available to interested teams under any circumstances. Numerous clubs besieged the Hornets with trade calls about Paul throughout last season, but external interest only increased after a June interview with ESPN The Magazine's Chris Broussard in which Paul said he wants to remain in New Orleans but would be "open to a trade" if the Hornets aren't trying to compete financially with the league's elite.

Weber responded with a housecleaning that led to the hiring of general manager Dell Demps from San Antonio to team with rookie coach and former Spurs teammate Monty Williams. Through a series of aggressive trades, improved defense and with Williams and Paul bonding quickly, New Orleans followed up a painful preseason with a stunning 11-1 start. Team officials also pointed to the $15 million in additional salaries that the Hornets have absorbed as a sign that the team is on its most solid financial footing in some time with Chouest more involved than Shinn.

Paul has generally revealed little in the way of firm declarations about how the Hornets' brightened outlook affects his future plans, but he has acknowledged in numerous interviews that he's excited by the team's new direction under Demps and Williams while reiterating his fondness for New Orleans after establishing deep roots in the city.

"I'm excited about my teammates," Paul told ESPN.com on Nov. 15. "We've got a lot of guys on our team that are hungry. I think we're in a good spot right now."

Back in August, Weber expressed confidence that majority control would eventually be transferred from Shinn to Chouest, telling ESPN.com: "We have two great partners that have a similar mission that they're trying to get accomplished. George does want to sell this team -- I think it's time for him to move on -- and Gary does want to run it."

It was widely reported in early May that Shinn and Chouest had struck an agreement in principle for Chouest -- who possesses a 25 percent stake in the franchise -- to become majority owner. Delays were initially attributed to haggles over the final purchase price and Chouest's reported search for new minority investors to reduce his overall investment. But media reports in Louisiana during the summer estimated that Chouest's company, Edison Chouest Offshore, absorbed significant financial losses in the wake of the BP oil spill, which is regarded as the worst spill in North American history.

Shinn founded the Hornets in 1988 and announced last season that -- now in remission after being diagnosed with prostate cancer a year ago -- he was prepared to sell his majority stake. It's been a controversial two-decade run from Shinn with a franchise that moved away from its fervent followers in Charlotte largely because of the locals' distaste for the owner.

The Times-Picayune reported Monday that the Hornets would be free to relocate if the 14,735-fan benchmark is not reached for the 13 games specified, but actually leaving New Orleans would require a $10 million exit penalty payable to the state and a formal notice to Louisiana no later than March 1, 2011.

Weber told the newspaper that the franchise isn't looking to relocate again, saying: "We all know basketball can work in New Orleans. We've seen it work."
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Originally Posted by JapanAir21

So uhh, Bhz...

Playoffs?
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Well we went 4-1, then lost two straight. We wont be a playoff team as long as we continue this pounding style with Zbo.Its still early in the season though. Dont forget what we did in Dec/Jan/Feb last season. But, as long as Hollins keep making bonehead decisions we wont be a playoff team.
 
Originally Posted by JapanAir21

So uhh, Bhz...

Playoffs?
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Well we went 4-1, then lost two straight. We wont be a playoff team as long as we continue this pounding style with Zbo.Its still early in the season though. Dont forget what we did in Dec/Jan/Feb last season. But, as long as Hollins keep making bonehead decisions we wont be a playoff team.
 
Originally Posted by Proshares

Does either side say no here?

Scola, Battier, Lowry for Bosh.
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Bosh+Aaron Brooks+Kevin Martin+Chuck Hayes+Chase Budinger?

Doesn't do much for me.

Lowry may seem expendable, but who's your PG when Brooks gets hurt?

I actually think Rockets would say no. That's just way too much to give up for one guy.
 
Originally Posted by Proshares

Does either side say no here?

Scola, Battier, Lowry for Bosh.
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Bosh+Aaron Brooks+Kevin Martin+Chuck Hayes+Chase Budinger?

Doesn't do much for me.

Lowry may seem expendable, but who's your PG when Brooks gets hurt?

I actually think Rockets would say no. That's just way too much to give up for one guy.
 
An interesting tidbit I looked up to keep in mind while I took a break for studying...

2011 first round draft pick from New York
Houston has the right to swap their own 2011 1st round pick with New York's own 1st round pick so long as New York's 2011 1st round pick is not the 1st overall selection in the 2011 NBA Draft. [Houston - New York - Sacramento, 2/18/2010]

A pick that could net that a mid-first rounder this year.


2011 first round draft pick from Minnesota
Minnesota's own 2011 1st round pick to the L.A. Clippers ( top 10 protected in 2011, and unprotected in the 2012 Draft). [LA Clippers - Minnesota, 8/12/2005]

LAC could get a HUGE pick in 2012.

2012 first round draft pick from Golden State
Golden State's own 2012 1st round pick to New Jersey (top 7 protected in the 2012 Draft, top 7 protected in 2013, and top 6 protected in the 2014 Draft). However, if New Jersey has not yet received this first round pick by the 2014 draft, then New Jersey shall instead receive: (i) Golden State's own 2014 2nd round pick and (ii) Golden State's own 2016 2nd round pick. [Golden State - New Jersey, 7/22/2008 and amended 9/21/2009]

Could be another potential top ten pick for NJN.

2012 first round draft pick from L.A. Clippers
The Los Angeles Clippers’ own 2012 first round draft pick to Oklahoma City (top 10 protected in the 2012 draft, top 10 protected in 2013, top 10 protected in 2014, top 10 protected in 2015 and unprotected in the 2016 Draft). In addition, if the Los Angeles Clippers are required to send their 2012 first round pick pursuant to the above and are also entitled to receive Minnesota’s own 2012 first round draft, then Oklahoma City shall receive the lesser of the Los Angeles Clippers’ own 2012 first round pick and Minnesota’s own 2012 first round pick. [L.A. Clippers -Oklahoma City, 6/24/2010]

I'm not quite sure if lesser = higher pick or not, but still, an unprotected pick in 2016 for a franchise that has been in the dumps for a while. Imagine KD+Russ getting a young explosive talent in five or six years. Could make things interesting!

Also a quote from tonights game..

“We feel we can beat anybody anywhere,
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An interesting tidbit I looked up to keep in mind while I took a break for studying...

2011 first round draft pick from New York
Houston has the right to swap their own 2011 1st round pick with New York's own 1st round pick so long as New York's 2011 1st round pick is not the 1st overall selection in the 2011 NBA Draft. [Houston - New York - Sacramento, 2/18/2010]

A pick that could net that a mid-first rounder this year.


2011 first round draft pick from Minnesota
Minnesota's own 2011 1st round pick to the L.A. Clippers ( top 10 protected in 2011, and unprotected in the 2012 Draft). [LA Clippers - Minnesota, 8/12/2005]

LAC could get a HUGE pick in 2012.

2012 first round draft pick from Golden State
Golden State's own 2012 1st round pick to New Jersey (top 7 protected in the 2012 Draft, top 7 protected in 2013, and top 6 protected in the 2014 Draft). However, if New Jersey has not yet received this first round pick by the 2014 draft, then New Jersey shall instead receive: (i) Golden State's own 2014 2nd round pick and (ii) Golden State's own 2016 2nd round pick. [Golden State - New Jersey, 7/22/2008 and amended 9/21/2009]

Could be another potential top ten pick for NJN.

2012 first round draft pick from L.A. Clippers
The Los Angeles Clippers’ own 2012 first round draft pick to Oklahoma City (top 10 protected in the 2012 draft, top 10 protected in 2013, top 10 protected in 2014, top 10 protected in 2015 and unprotected in the 2016 Draft). In addition, if the Los Angeles Clippers are required to send their 2012 first round pick pursuant to the above and are also entitled to receive Minnesota’s own 2012 first round draft, then Oklahoma City shall receive the lesser of the Los Angeles Clippers’ own 2012 first round pick and Minnesota’s own 2012 first round pick. [L.A. Clippers -Oklahoma City, 6/24/2010]

I'm not quite sure if lesser = higher pick or not, but still, an unprotected pick in 2016 for a franchise that has been in the dumps for a while. Imagine KD+Russ getting a young explosive talent in five or six years. Could make things interesting!

Also a quote from tonights game..

“We feel we can beat anybody anywhere,
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