Official 10' NFL Offseason Thread: CIN sign T.O. 1yr/2m

heat...about when are we looking to start to the draft?


randy moss is on the trading block
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Originally Posted by DeadsetAce

heat...about when are we looking to start to the draft?


randy moss is on the trading block
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I'm thinking around the combine. 

Also, we can only trade pick(s) and/or player rights (from pick(s) already picked in this years' mock draft)
  
 
Deadset, I'll trade you a 4th rounder for Moss.  (just like how ya'll got him, but 3 years older now) 
 
Originally Posted by CP1708

Deadset, I'll trade you a 4th rounder for Moss.  (just like how ya'll got him, but 3 years older now) 
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do i look like that old ****** al davis to you?
 
Originally Posted by Bigmike23

is this a offseason thread or a thread for this mock draft?
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Both for now.  He'll move to a seperate thread for the mock I'm sure.  This is just gettin the GM's lined up is all. 

  
 
Originally Posted by dreClark

Anybody looking to move up to the top 5, I'm listening.

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Not trying to move up from the 7 to 5 spot, but your boy Kam is available for the right price.  If we are allowed to do that?
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And I basically got the 6th pick anyways considering USAPride is gonna select Earl "I'm better than EB14" Thomas with that selection.
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Originally Posted by CP1708

Originally Posted by Bigmike23

is this a offseason thread or a thread for this mock draft?
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Both for now.  He'll move to a seperate thread for the mock I'm sure.  This is just gettin the GM's lined up is all. 

  
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Yeah, they'll be a separate mock draft thead. This is the Offseason thread. Mike, are you doing the mock?
  
 
mcnabb can be had for a 1st and conditional 2nd (could go as high as a 2nd or as low as a 5th, depending playing time and numbers)
- looking at mostly AFC teams (broncos, browns and bills).. but would be willing to listen to the cards and vikings, once they know the price might be steeper since they are in the NFC



vick can be had for a conditional 2nd (this one can only go as low as a 4th, again based on playing time and numbers)
 
ONCE AGAIN, we can ONLY trade pick(s) and/or player rights from this mock draft. Trades can be made now though

The mock's start date will be around the combine but if you guys would like to start sooner, let me know when but it must be a majority.



GM roster:

[table][tr][th=""]Pick[/th][th=""]Slotted team[/th][th=""]Record[/th][th=""]Note[/th][/tr][tr][td]1[/td][td]Rams/GUNNA GET IT[/td][td]1-15[/td][td][/td][/tr][tr][td]2[/td][td]Lions/CP1708[/td][td]2-14[/td][td][/td][/tr][tr][td]3[/td][td]Bucs/jville819[/td][td]3-13[/td][td][/td][/tr][tr][td]4[/td][td]********/TheGift23[/td][td]4-12[/td][td][/td][/tr][tr][td]5[/td][td]Chiefs/dreClark[/td][td]4-12[/td][td][/td][/tr][tr][td]6[/td][td]Seahawks/USA Pride4Life[/td][td]5-11[/td][td][/td][/tr][tr][td]7[/td][td]Browns/EnEyeKayEe[/td][td]5-11[/td][td][/td][/tr][tr][td]8[/td][td]Raiders/SoHi 23[/td][td]5-11[/td][td][/td][/tr][tr][td]9[/td][td]Bills/Kiddin Like Jason[/td][td]6-10[/td][td][/td][/tr][tr][td]10[/td][td]Jaguars/MDterps4[/td][td]7-9[/td][td] [/td][/tr][tr][td]11[/td][td]Bears[/td][td]7-9[/td][td]Broncos acquired Bears' pick [/td][/tr][tr][td]12[/td][td]Dolphins/h3at23[/td][td]7-9[/td][td][/td][/tr][tr][td]13[/td][td]49ers/bright nikes[/td][td]8-8[/td][td][/td][/tr][tr][td]14[/td][td]Broncos/gangsta207therevolution[/td][td]8-8[/td][td]Seahawks acquired Broncos' pick [/td][/tr][tr][td]15[/td][td]Giants/The Wizard[/td][td]8-8[/td][td][/td][/tr][tr][td]16[/td][td]Titans/Chester the Cheetah [/td][td]8-8[/td][td][/td][/tr][tr][td]17[/td][td]Panthers[/td][td]8-8[/td][td]49ers acquired Panthers' pick [/td][/tr][tr][td]18[/td][td]Steelers/Ecook0808[/td][td]9-7[/td][td][/td][/tr][tr][td]19[/td][td]Texans/Statis22[/td][td]9-7[/td][td][/td][/tr][tr][td]20[/td][td]Falcons/ChampCruThik[/td][td]9-7[/td][td][/td][/tr][tr][td]21[/td][td]Bengals/DaComeUP[/td][td]10-6[/td][td][/td][/tr][tr][td]22[/td][td]Patriots/DeadsetAce[/td][td]10-6[/td][td][/td][/tr][tr][td]23[/td][td]Packers/fraij da 5 11[/td][td]11-5[/td][td][/td][/tr][tr][td]24[/td][td]Eagles/TrillipinoTrapstar[/td][td]11-5[/td][td][/td][/tr][tr][td]25[/td][td]Ravens/theone2401[/td][td]9-7[/td][td][/td][/tr][tr][td]26[/td][td]Cardinals/Respect21 [/td][td]10-6[/td][td][/td][/tr][tr][td]27[/td][td]Cowboys/Nowitness41Dirk [/td][td]11-5[/td][td][/td][/tr][tr][td]28[/td][td]Chargers[/td][td]11-5[/td][td][/td][/tr][tr][td]29[/td][td]Jets/Yankeephan87[/td][td]9-7[/td][td][/td][/tr][tr][td]30[/td][td]Vikings/JPZx[/td][td]12-4[/td][td][/td][/tr][tr][td]31[/td][td]Colts[/td][td]14-2[/td][td][/td][/tr][tr][td]32[/td][td]Saints/yungchris504 [/td][td]13-3[/td][td][/td][/tr][tr][td]Note: Coin flips will decide which NFL teams pick 10th, 16th and 19th.[/td][/tr][/table]
 
Dude from Scout was on the radio out here sayin Seahawks would go QB at 6, and OT at 14.  Carroll lookin to get his own people in there quick to get this thing started. 
 
[h2]Scouts Inc.: AFC offseason needs
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[h3]Breaking down the top three areas to address for every squad chasing the Colts[/h3]
By Gary Horton
Scouts Inc.
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In early February, ESPN draft guru Mel Kiper released his team needs by conference, first the NFC version and then the AFC version. With the 2009-10 season in the books -- congrats, New Orleans Saints -- Gary Horton of Scouts Inc. is doing the same. Although Kiper's articles focus on college players who may be good fits in Rounds 1-3 of the 2010 NFL draft, Horton focuses on the three key needs for each squad. This is the AFC version. To access the NFC version, click here. Keep checking back throughout the busy offseason and NFL draft season for more information from a variety of Insider voices on team needs, draft buzz and more.
[h3]AFC East[/h3]
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Buffalo Bills

Top needs:
1. Outside linebacker: This team was gashed by good run games all season, and its outside linebackers produced only one sack in 2009. Normal starters Kawika Mitchell and Keith Ellison are coming off season-ending injuries. Who's the impact guy upfield, especially if the Bills switch to a 3-4 front?

2. Left tackle: This front five was a disaster and allowed a league-high 46 sacks in 2009. The Bills never replaced Pro Bowler Jason Peters at left tackle after trading him to the Philadelphia Eagles, and poor play combined with numerous injuries made them very susceptible off the edge. The Bills' line may be the worst offensive unit in the NFL.

3. Quarterback: Trent Edwards' career may be over in Buffalo, and Ryan Fitzpatrick does not scare any defense. That leaves Brian Brohm, but nobody thinks he is a starter. However, because the Bills have so many other needs, they may try to live with this trio for one more season.

Other needs: WR, TE, NT (if they switch to a 3-4 defensive scheme)
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Miami Dolphins

Top needs:
1. Wide receiver: The Dolphins have a potentially good passing game with QB Chad Henne, but they have no dynamic receiver to get the ball to. Ted Ginn Jr. has never played up to expectations, and all the other wideouts are average. The Dolphins desperately need a big offensive playmaker.

2. Free safety: Miami's rookie corners played better than expected, but they got marginal safety help behind them. FS Gibril Wilson was out of position and should be a strong safety (for another team). He also is too expensive. SS Yeremiah Bell can tackle but struggles in coverage, and young Chris Clemons has a chance to develop. The Dolphins need a range guy who can cover.

3. Nose tackle: Jason Ferguson is 35 years old and an unrestricted free agent who finished the season on injured reserve, but he may well sign a one-year deal. Backup Paul Soliai is serviceable but not consistent enough. This defense must have a space-eating nose tackle to be successful.

Other needs: OLB, ILB, OG
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New England Patriots

Top needs:
1. OLB: This defense must generate pass-rush pressure from its outside linebackers, but the Pats are void of playmakers and have virtually no depth at this position. If they stick with their 3-4 front, they need an athletic upfield guy who can get to the quarterback.

2. WR: Wes Welker's injury and the potential inconsistency of Randy Moss make this a scary position for an offense that needs a lot of passing weapons. Julian Edelman could replace Welker as a slot receiver, but the Pats need an outside speed threat to go along with or replace the aging Moss.

3. Defensive end: Without Richard Seymour and with DE Jarvis Green and NT Vince Wilfork possibly becoming free agents, the Pats need a powerful 3-4 defensive end who can play physical two-gap schemes but is athletic enough to rush the quarterback after they switch to a 4-3 front.

Other needs: RB, OL, DC, ILB, NT (If Wilfork becomes a free agent, nose tackle could become the Patriots' biggest need.)
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New York Jets

Top needs:
1. DE: The two starters, Shaun Ellis and Marques Douglas, are not spring chickens, and the Jets may want to get younger at defensive end in this 3-4 defense, especially if Douglas becomes a free agent. The Jets want physicality and some pass-rush skills, and a young swing guy to develop would be nice.

2. FS/SS: FS Kerry Rhodes lost his starter's spot late in the season and is the subject of trade rumors. SS Jim Leonhard is solid and smart and makes all the secondary calls, but Jets coach Rex Ryan needs a free safety he can trust. Backup Eric Smith may be nothing more than a short-term fix.

3. WR: Braylon Edwards drops too many passes, Jerricho Cotchery is productive but not flashy and the backups don't overly excite you. QB Mark Sanchez needs a young receiver who will fight for the ball, catch with consistency and give the team more big plays.

Other needs: OT, NT, RB
[h3]AFC North[/h3]
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Baltimore Ravens

Top needs:
1. WR: Every year, this is a critical need for this organization, and the Ravens have yet to solve it. The lack of a go-to guy really holds this offense back. When an aging Derrick Mason is your best option, you know you're in trouble. The other guys are nondescript, and there are no playmakers in the bunch.

2. Cornerback: Injuries have decimated this group, with starting corner Fabian Washington and promising rookie Lardarius Webb gone at the end of the season. Neither Domonique Foxworth nor Chris Carr made enough plays, although Carr played hard. This secondary wants to play a lot of man-to-man schemes, but it can't always because of its personnel.

3. FS: Ed Reed has injury issues and may retire, but SS Dawan Landry had a comeback season in 2009 and is solid. The Ravens need to replace Reed with a young guy they can groom and make big plays sooner than later.

Other needs: TE, DE, DT, NT
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Cincinnati Bengals

Top needs:
1. WR/TE: On a usually explosive Bengals pass offense, there has been no threat of a receiving tight end who can attack the middle of the field and exploit matchups. With the loss of WR Chris Henry, Chad Ochocinco is the lone receiving threat. The Bengals have a base three-receiver offense that spreads the field by nature, but right now there is only one guy.

2. Safety: Neither starting safety (Chinedum Ndukwe and Chris Crocker) is a good pass-coverage guy, especially in the deep middle of the field, and that is where offenses attack the Bengals. Finding an athletic space guy who can match up in sub packages would really help this defense.

3. DE/DT: Defensive coordinator Mike Zimmer wants to put more pressure on opposing quarterbacks, but DE Antwan Odom is the only true pass-rusher on the edge, and only if he is healthy. The inside guys are decent, but they don't make a lot of big plays versus the pass. Up-front pressure would make a pretty good secondary even better.

Other needs: OG, OT, PK, CB (backup)
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Cleveland Browns

Top needs:
1. DT/DE: With a secondary that struggles in coverage, there is an emphasis on more pressure up front, either outside or inside, to protect the guys on the back end. A speed guy off the edge would be perfect, but an inside disruptive penetrator would be nice.

2. DS: The Browns' secondary is woeful and devoid of playmakers, both versus the run and more importantly against the pass. They need a guy with range and cover skills who is not a liability in sub packages and can create more big plays.

3. WR: Cleveland took two wide receivers in the second round of the 2009 draft but is still thin at the position and rarely stretches the field. With no Braylon Edwards or Donte' Stallworth and struggling youngster Brian Robiskie, the only dependable receiver is Mohamed Massaquoi.

Other needs: RT, CB, QB, TE, OLB
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Pittsburgh Steelers

Top needs:
1. CB: The Steelers' cornerback play was below par in 2009. The unit had no interceptions until the final week of the season. William Gay played poorly, Deshea Townsend is an unrestricted free agent (and old). The Steelers need a young guy with speed and man-coverage skills to go with Ike Taylor, who is a decent player even though he did not have a great 2009 season.

2. FS: Ryan Clark and Tyrone Carter are UFAs and struggled as starters when SS Troy Polamalu missed 11 games. The Steelers need a range safety and a good tackler to potentially start at FS and serve as insurance for the oft-injured Polamalu.

3. NT/DE: NT Casey Hampton could leave as a UFA, DEs Aaron Smith and Brett Keisel are older than 30 and young DE Ziggy Hood may not be ready. The Steelers' aging defensive front is due for a big makeover, and a two-gap nose tackle or a physical 3-4 defensive end would be a much-needed pickup.

Other needs: OG, C, ILB, OT
[h3]AFC South[/h3]
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Houston Texans

Top needs:
1. Running back: Although rookie Arian Foster showed promise late in the season, the Texans' run game ranks near the bottom of the league. Steve Slaton finished the season on injured reserve and never came close in 2009 to being the back we have seen in the past. This offense needs a workhorse back who can be productive in its zone-blocking schemes up front.

2. Center/offensive guard: The Texans finished the season with almost unknown players in their interior offensive line, and their best-known veterans, Chester Pitts and Tutan Reyes, are UFAs and may not be back. They need a dominating inside guy who is athletic enough to handle their zone-blocking schemes.

3. FS: The Texans got lucky with a guy they signed off the street, SS Bernard Pollard, but FS John Busing struggled in coverage. The backups are nondescript, although veteran FS Eugene Wilson has good cover skills. The Texans need an athletic free safety with range who is not a liability in coverage and also a good tackler.

Other needs: DT, CB (backup), TE (Owen Daniels on injured reserve?)
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Indianapolis Colts

Top needs:
1. OT: The biggest need on this team may be at left tackle, where starter Charlie Johnson is a potential free agent and more of a guard than tackle. Backup Tony Ugoh is injury-prone and not always tough enough. Protecting Peyton Manning's back side and keeping him clean is a priorityand while offensive-line coach Howard Mudd has been the best in the NFL at developing young linemen, he is retiring, putting extra pressure on finding the right players.

2. Inside linebacker: Gary Brackett is undersized and a free agent, but he played at a very high level in 2009. There is not a lot of quality depth behind Brackett, and this defense could use a big athletic run-stuffer who could dominate on first and second downs.

3. Safety: This could become a bigger need depending on what happens in free agency. Safeties Antoine Bethea and Melvin Bullitt will hit the open market, while Bob Sanders has health problem and may have a contract issue. If all those players return and are healthy, it will be solid position, but that is unlikely to happen.

Other needs: QB, DE, CB, C
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Jacksonville Jaguars

Top needs:
1. DE/DT: The Jaguars were last in the NFL in sacks in 2009 with 14 and have been unable to apply much pressure from either the inside or outside. If they stay with their 4-3 scheme, they need a guy off the edge with speed, but they also could use a quick one-gap penetrator inside.

2. S: Reggie Nelson's play has really dropped off, and he may not be back in 2010. The other safeties, Gerald Alexander and Anthony Smith, are not capable starters, and neither is backup Sean Considine. The Jags need a playmaker.

3. OLB: Weakside linebacker Daryl Smith is solid as a rock, and MLB Justin Durant is solid inside if he can stay healthy, but the third linebacker spot is a problem. They need an athletic outside guy with cover skills who also can pass rush and play the run.

Other needs: C, OG, WR, RB, CB
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Tennessee Titans

Top needs:
1. OLB: This has been a solid position that is starting to break down. Keith Bulluck and Stephen Tulloch are free agents, and veteran David Thornton is a physical risk. The only quality guy behind them is rookie Gerald McRath. The Titans need an athletic outside linebacker.

2. CB: Nick Harper and Rod Hood are free agents, and neither is a lock to return in 2010. The Titans have one quality cover guy, Cortland Finnegan, but there is little depth behind him, although rookie Ryan Mouton isn't bad. Tennessee probably could use two quality guys, a potential starter and a backup, nickel-type player.

3. DE/DT: Both starting defensive ends, Jevon Kearse and Kyle Vanden Bosch, are free agents. Kearse likely won't be back, and Vanden Bosch is on the fence. The Titans have some decent role players, but their biggest need is a stout defensive end who can pass rush but also stop the run and play all downs.

Other needs: S, OG, C, TE, WR
[h3]AFC West[/h3]
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Denver Broncos

Top needs:
1. WR: This is a big need even if Brandon Marshall returns in 2010, which is unlikely. This offense needs a young, deep threat and more perimeter explosiveness. Eddie Royal has virtually disappeared, and veterans Brandon Stokley, Jabar Gaffney and Brandon Lloyd are just role players. This offense needs a dynamic young guy.

2. NT: The defense played better than expected in the Broncos' first year of the 3-4 defense, and it did it without a dominating nose tackle, although Ronald Fields played better than expected. A physical, two-gap space-eater is a key to this defense. Those guys are hard to find, but it is a critical need.

3. C, OG: The Broncos are transitioning from an athletic zone-blocking scheme to a more physical power-run look. OG Russ Hochstein has knee problems, and OGs Ben Hamilton and Chris Kuper could leave in free agency. C Casey Wiegmann's future in Denver is up in the air as well. There is a lot of instability in this unit.

Other needs: DE, CB, S, QB
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Kansas City Chiefs

Top needs:
1. OT: Branden Albert is a solid player at left tackle, but if the Chiefs draft a top left tackle, they could move Albert to the right side and solidify two positions. All the other offensive tackles on this roster are just average guys and mostly depth players.

2. S: The two starters, FS Jon McGraw (who should be a backup) and SS Mike Brown (smart, but has marginal speed and quicks) are not dynamic playmakers, and the backups are nondescript. Can the Chiefs find an athletic center-field type who can tackle in space and help in coverage?

3. ILB: This organization likes to build on defense from the inside out, and because the Chiefs have a 3-4 scheme, they really need an inside run-stuffer who can stay on the field for all three downs. Their two current inside starters, Demorrio Williams and Corey Mays, make a lot of tackles but don't play with enough consistency, and the depth is thin.

Other needs: NT, WR, OLB
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Oakland Raiders

Top needs:
1. QB: A position of disaster for the Raiders. Is JaMarcus Russell the answer? Are the backups (Bruce Gradkowski, J.P. Losman and Charlie Frye) capable of starting? Do you tear the position down and start over? If you do make changes, do you go with a veteran or draft another youngster?

2. OT: Both tackles are shaky and inconsistent. LT Mario Henderson fell apart down the stretch, and RT Cornell Green has too many mental breakdowns. The backups are no better. Oakland needs an athletic LT who can protect whoever is at quarterback.

3. WR: First-round draft pick Darrius Heyward-Bey looks like a bust, and starters Chaz Schilens and Johnnie Lee Higgins are weak. The Raiders need a real No. 1 receiver who can actually catch the ball and move the chains. How many mistakes can you make at one position?

Other needs: OLB, DT, DE, PK
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San Diego Chargers

Top needs:
1. RB: It is possible that both LaDainian Tomlinson and Darren Sproles could be gone (LT because he has no role and Sproles because he is a potential free agent)? The Chargers need Sproles to accept a multiyear deal, and then they still need a bigger and more physical complementary back, who won't be easy to find.

2. NT: A dominating nose tackle is critical to this defense. Starter Jamal Williams was an injury casualty in 2009, and he's getting old and trying to play on two bad knees. The backups are just try-hard guys, and this defense doesn't work if there is no two-gap space-eater inside.

3. OT: The left tackle position is in good shape with Marcus McNeill, but the right side needs some help. RT Jeromy Clary missed some time with an injury, and Brandyn Dombrowski is not the long-term answer. San Diego needs to develop a young, stud run-blocker who also has the feet to pass-protect.

Other needs: OLB, DE, WR
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