Originally Posted by NobleKane
honestly the pure filipino and pure mexican boxing fanbase are way too similar. too much country pride.... its cool to be proud of your nation but when you act like you won a world war or become violent against other fans...thats od
No offense to Eagle but that's one of the dumber things I've ever read. That's just not how boxing is scored and if it was, only pressure fighters would win. Basically if the challenger is a defensive fighter, counter puncher or pure boxer, he'll automatically lose?Originally Posted by Discoduck
-In a 10-point system, the boxer who wins a round is given 10 points, and the other boxer gets nine points. (10 -9).
-If there was a knockdown in the round (10-
-2 knock downs (10-7)
-If a judge can't decide who won the round, it is scored 10-10.
-Now if u are the challenger, you must be the aggressor (Pacquiao vs Cotto) in very close rounds the Champion gets the 10. For example if Pacquiao would just stay still and Marquez does not attack, Pacquiao gets the 10 and Marquez 9. In this case -----Manny(champion) was always aggressive while Marquez(challenger) waits for an attack and counters.
-Marquez's body language fooled a lot of people. Making people feel that he was the winner or at least it was a draw. It may look like he was landing more punches but the tricky part here is he was on the defensive, luring pacquiao into his tactical traps (remember the challenger must be the one who is aggressive to be awarded 10 ).
-So even if Marquez did connect more punches he gets only 9 for being defensive and manny gets the 10 for being the attacker.
Pacquiao got more "10"s than Marquez.
By a fan Eagle Quiambao Castro
i had to put this here, something you guys might want to read, although still i think JMM deserves atleast our respect, he did well. a great fighter
Originally Posted by trunks206
but he was winning though.
Originally Posted by skillzboy44
Originally Posted by trunks206
but he was winning though.
... do you even get what i just said? doesnt matter if he was winning or not. no trainer is supposed to tell their fighter that during a pivotal moment of the match...what does it do for him? smh at you for not getting my point. nice failed attempt at trynna treat.
Originally Posted by HankMoody
And who the hell are you again?Look at analysis from around the world. JMM won or it was a draw at the very least. There is no way Manny won, on paper, papyrus, slate, stone, whatever! Compubox clowns
All of this.Originally Posted by mgrand15
No offense to Eagle but that's one of the dumber things I've ever read. That's just not how boxing is scored and if it was, only pressure fighters would win. Basically if the challenger is a defensive fighter, counter puncher or pure boxer, he'll automatically lose?Originally Posted by Discoduck
-In a 10-point system, the boxer who wins a round is given 10 points, and the other boxer gets nine points. (10 -9).
-If there was a knockdown in the round (10-
-2 knock downs (10-7)
-If a judge can't decide who won the round, it is scored 10-10.
-Now if u are the challenger, you must be the aggressor (Pacquiao vs Cotto) in very close rounds the Champion gets the 10. For example if Pacquiao would just stay still and Marquez does not attack, Pacquiao gets the 10 and Marquez 9. In this case -----Manny(champion) was always aggressive while Marquez(challenger) waits for an attack and counters.
-Marquez's body language fooled a lot of people. Making people feel that he was the winner or at least it was a draw. It may look like he was landing more punches but the tricky part here is he was on the defensive, luring pacquiao into his tactical traps (remember the challenger must be the one who is aggressive to be awarded 10 ).
-So even if Marquez did connect more punches he gets only 9 for being defensive and manny gets the 10 for being the attacker.
Pacquiao got more "10"s than Marquez.
By a fan Eagle Quiambao Castro
i had to put this here, something you guys might want to read, although still i think JMM deserves atleast our respect, he did well. a great fighter
If this Pacquaio shows up against Mayweather, he's going to get destroyed. Floyd is much better than JMM at counter punching and defending - two things that completely befuddled Pac in this fight. Pacquiao also got hit with the straight right a ton (one of Floyd's best weapons). He got frustrated against JMM - how will he fare against someone that's better in every way (stronger, faster, longer, counter punching, defense, offense). The only advantage JMM has is that he's fought Pac before, so he knew his timing. Unfortunately for Pac, Floyd normally adapts to his opponents within 2 rounds. Gonna be real tough for him unless they have a much better training camp.
Originally Posted by BeatJunkie5
If/when PBF and Pac fight...and the result is similar to this Marquez fight, do they still give Pac the W??
Originally Posted by Mr Jordan04
The D Riding of Manny was at an all time high by HBO
Dude was getting hammered in certain points of the fight, but all they would talk about was how good his footwork is
Manny over there playing hop skotch while getting punched in the face, and HBO just says woooooooooooooow look at how quick he is, totally ignoring that JMM was landing some good shots
n Arum:"I personally think it's Bob Arum having a vendetta. I think he's very, very upset with me because, you know, I exposed and I opened the world's eyes up to different things."Mayweather is referencing, of course, his nasty split from Top Rank years ago, where he was harsh about fighters being screwed by promoters. He also feels that in his time promoting himself since then -- with a big helping hand from Golden Boy, it should be noted -- he's shown that fighters don't need to work for promoters. That's his belief, and the fact is he pulls in a ton of money. Arum was famously of the belief that Mayweather lacked superstar quality. Say what you will about Bob, but he's not often wrong on superstar fighters he can market. He was wrong on Floyd, who feels to this day that Arum resents him for breaking free and being highly critical, and I'm sure he's probably right to some degree. It's not like they get along or anything. It's a legit issue.On Pacquiao vs Marquez, and a possible fourth fight between the two:"Why? I mean, I truly feel that Marquez is never going to get the benefit of the doubt. I want to congratulate Marquez and I want to congratulate Manny Pacquiao for doing it a third time, but I just feel like if you get it done right the first time, there's no need for a second or third fight. And if it is needed, do it again in the same fashion and in the same way, or do it even better."I know this might sound weird at first, but Floyd can back this up. There have been two guys in his career who have really tested him. The first was Jose Luis Castillo in 2002, and they had an immediate rematch where Floyd won more convincingly, even though it was still a competitive, close fight. And the other was Oscar De La Hoya in 2007. They did sign up for a rematch, but Floyd instead went into one of his fake retirements. Public interest didn't seem all that high for the rematch, and I still think that's why they chose to call it off. But that's just my own gut feeling, and always has been. Anyway, I don't think many are sick over the fact that we never got that rematch. Oscar was gone by that point, and it was contracted to be at 147 pounds, where the "Golden Boy" looked fake bronze at best against Manny Pacquiao, who replaced Mayweather in the fight.There's plenty more in there, including Floyd talking about the defamation lawsuit, steroids, Freddie Roach, and other topics.Mayweather returns to the ring on May 5, 2012, and his team has said that they're hoping to get Pacquiao as the opponent. There have been no other strong rumors yet.
n Arum:"I personally think it's Bob Arum having a vendetta. I think he's very, very upset with me because, you know, I exposed and I opened the world's eyes up to different things."Mayweather is referencing, of course, his nasty split from Top Rank years ago, where he was harsh about fighters being screwed by promoters. He also feels that in his time promoting himself since then -- with a big helping hand from Golden Boy, it should be noted -- he's shown that fighters don't need to work for promoters. That's his belief, and the fact is he pulls in a ton of money. Arum was famously of the belief that Mayweather lacked superstar quality. Say what you will about Bob, but he's not often wrong on superstar fighters he can market. He was wrong on Floyd, who feels to this day that Arum resents him for breaking free and being highly critical, and I'm sure he's probably right to some degree. It's not like they get along or anything. It's a legit issue.On Pacquiao vs Marquez, and a possible fourth fight between the two:"Why? I mean, I truly feel that Marquez is never going to get the benefit of the doubt. I want to congratulate Marquez and I want to congratulate Manny Pacquiao for doing it a third time, but I just feel like if you get it done right the first time, there's no need for a second or third fight. And if it is needed, do it again in the same fashion and in the same way, or do it even better."I know this might sound weird at first, but Floyd can back this up. There have been two guys in his career who have really tested him. The first was Jose Luis Castillo in 2002, and they had an immediate rematch where Floyd won more convincingly, even though it was still a competitive, close fight. And the other was Oscar De La Hoya in 2007. They did sign up for a rematch, but Floyd instead went into one of his fake retirements. Public interest didn't seem all that high for the rematch, and I still think that's why they chose to call it off. But that's just my own gut feeling, and always has been. Anyway, I don't think many are sick over the fact that we never got that rematch. Oscar was gone by that point, and it was contracted to be at 147 pounds, where the "Golden Boy" looked fake bronze at best against Manny Pacquiao, who replaced Mayweather in the fight.There's plenty more in there, including Floyd talking about the defamation lawsuit, steroids, Freddie Roach, and other topics.Mayweather returns to the ring on May 5, 2012, and his team has said that they're hoping to get Pacquiao as the opponent. There have been no other strong rumors yet.
Originally Posted by CParkFresh
Originally Posted by Mr Jordan04
The D Riding of Manny was at an all time high by HBO
Dude was getting hammered in certain points of the fight, but all they would talk about was how good his footwork is
Manny over there playing hop skotch while getting punched in the face, and HBO just says woooooooooooooow look at how quick he is, totally ignoring that JMM was landing some good shots
Qouted for M'Fn Truth..... But you have to realize the fact that HBO has millions on the line when it comes to Manny. If they don't hype him up then and if God forbid he where to lose... THEN EVERYTHING GOES OUT OF THE WINDOW. They are trying to protect thier investment.
They would never and I mean NEVER rob Floyd like that if they did I cant imagine how many heads would rollOriginally Posted by BeatJunkie5
If/when PBF and Pac fight...and the result is similar to this Marquez fight, do they still give Pac the W??
Goons would be in the ring ready to scalp a judgeOriginally Posted by sammietheboss
They would never and I mean NEVER rob Floyd like that if they did I cant imagine how many heads would rollOriginally Posted by BeatJunkie5
If/when PBF and Pac fight...and the result is similar to this Marquez fight, do they still give Pac the W??
Originally Posted by sammietheboss
CParkFresh wrote:
Mr Jordan04 wrote:
The D Riding of Manny was at an all time high by HBO
Dude was getting hammered in certain points of the fight, but all they would talk about was how good his footwork is
Manny over there playing hop skotch while getting punched in the face, and HBO just says woooooooooooooow look at how quick he is, totally ignoring that JMM was landing some good shots
