Offical 2009-10 NBA Season Thread

For Beasley to get close to his potential, I think he'll have to be traded somewhere else. He'll be a second option in Miami for a loooong time ifthings go the way Miami is hoping next summer (maybe even third option).

Part of me always wonders how Miami would be if they drafted O.J. Mayo instead.
 
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For Beasley to get close to his potential, I think he'll have to be traded somewhere else. He'll be a second option in Miami for a loooong time if things go the way Miami is hoping next summer (maybe even third option).

Part of me always wonders how Miami would be if they drafted O.J. Mayo instead.
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A team to reckon with. Wade wanted OJ too didn't he?

Watching the Heat-Grizz game tonight, there was no fans at the game. Was it because they were playing the Grizz, Sunday game or its like that most of the time?
 
i cant imagine an backcourt of OJ + Wade. Scary, but i dont see Mayo tapping his full potential if he really went to Mia.
 
Fans never go to Heat games
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, damn shame really.

And yeah, Wade wanted O.J. I think. He was working out with him that summer and everything.
 
OJ probably won't match his full potential in Memphis because of how he's used. He can come off screens and knock down jumpers, but I think he'sbetter in the open court and with the ball in his hands.

Wade is basically the same, so you would have two ball dominant guards. I think Wade would be able to alter some of the things he does on the court just byplaying with OJ though.

That year was just the wrong year for the Heat to get the no.2 pick. I really would like to see Beasley somewhere else.
 
Yeah a Mayo-Wade backcourt probably wouldn't work out in the long term, but it's something to think about. Both of them can handle the ball handlingduties and facilitate when asked. Wade would do damage attacking the basket and hitting mid-range shots then there's Mayo spreading the floor from deep.
 
i think if Mayo would have went to Miami, he would just been playing a glorified Mario Chamber role. Locking up the other teams pg, and hit the 3. I think Wadewanted D.Rose if he would he didn't went number 1. I don't remember him wanting OJ but I can be wrong.
 
Don't worry, if Beasley went to the Mavs, JA would type in all caps for a month.

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Great win by Bron yesterday, he got close to 50, which is what I said they would need to beat the Thunder.

You guys wouldn't believe me what they are talkin about on the radio here this morning. They openly talkin about how Roy is sensitive and doesn't wantany other players brought in here to threaten his "position" with the team, and yet 5 seconds later they are saying he's going to be an MVPcandidate in 2-3 years even though he's keeping the team from improving?
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They even mentioned how he feels better now that Greg is down.
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Thisis an interesting situation they've gotten themselves into. All the love this state puts on dude, if he proceeds to keep them from movin up and winninthose 10-11 rings everyone told me about 4 years ago, I'ma get myself killed over here laughin in their faces.
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Hawks with 130? God, how many times they done that this year? Like the third or fourth time ain't it?

BHZ wasn't far off ya'll. They may not be "there" yet, but they certainly get better and better. I am pleasantly surprised. Rudy was bigyesterday, and Gasol was filthy. Wonder if they stick together and all that, or do they try to sell some stocks high and change the dynamic. For my money, ifI can move Zach for some other guys that I have more trust in, I do that in heartbeat. And if someone throws a deal at me for Rudy, he's gone. But thasjust me.
 
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BHZ wasn't far off ya'll. They may not be "there" yet, but they certainly get better and better. I am pleasantly surprised. Rudy was big yesterday, and Gasol was filthy. Wonder if they stick together and all that, or do they try to sell some stocks high and change the dynamic. For my money, if I can move Zach for some other guys that I have more trust in, I do that in heartbeat. And if someone throws a deal at me for Rudy, he's gone. But thas just me.
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Knowing Heisley, he will stick it out with the current team if they continue to play well. Conley would be the only one I see being moved at thispoint IF they can get rid of him. If they are anywhere near playoff contention (like 3 or 4 games back of the 8th spot), I expect to see them make a move for aveteran off the bench ala Wesley Person for Bonzi Wells back in 03-04.

Randolph won't be going anywhere at least til' his deal runs out. From Heisley interview, he stated how happy he was about Randolph's production.
His defense may still suck, but he's trying and he's been a great leader thus far. Heisley also mentioned how badly he wanted to retain Rudy. I thinkhe will wait for a team to offer him and we just match it in the off-season kinda like what the Hawks did with Josh Smith.

If someone does a throw a good deal out there for Rudy that brings the team a better/bigger PG to play beside OJ, I'm sure Memphis may be willing to make amove.
 
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I can already see Rudy getting a fat $65M+ contract this summer.
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Yep. His camp wants Lamarcus Aldridge type money. Memphis offered him $50M and they declined this past summer. He will probably end up getting anyway.
 
thats a lot to be paying for rudy. he has the talent, but he seems to me like an LO, all the talent, just doesnt put in the work and effort.

rudy+conley for miller+wing and ill pull that in an heartbeat.
 
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You guys wouldn't believe me what they are talkin about on the radio here this morning. They openly talkin about how Roy is sensitive and doesn't want any other players brought in here to threaten his "position" with the team,
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Makes a lot of sense. If he feels even remotely threatened by Miller orOden...Blazers would have had to put him on suicide watch if they drafted KD
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thats a lot to be paying for rudy. he has the talent, but he seems to me like an LO, all the talent, just doesnt put in the work and effort.

rudy+conley for miller+wing and ill pull that in an heartbeat.
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Rudy has been putting in alot of work and effort over the off-season. He tends to get more frustrated with himself during games and it hurts his play. Then,you have him playing against good friends like Melo and Durant where he tends to slack off or tries to do too much. That's his MAIN problem. If you justlook at Rudy numbers alone, he improves every single season in the league. His numbers took a small dip in year 2 and 3 due to OJ coming on to the scene. Now,he's actually learning to play with scorers on the team and it helps him.

I don't want to give him $65M, but if nothing comes along worthy of trading him he needs to be kept because he's still the most talented player on theteam. He's finally settling into his own after having 4 coaches in 4 years.

Rudy and Conley for Andre Miller and somebody is not a good deal. I don't know why Memphis would send Rudy to a team like Portland who are in the Westanyways. Plus, Portland won't be able to pay him long-term either. Miller will be fine in Memphis probably, but he's definitely not worth Rudy and idkwhy you continue to value him that way.
 
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Chris Sheridan (3:02 PM)


Good afternoon from New York, where it is only 20 1-2 hours until the World Championship draw is held in Turkey and we find out who -- and where -- Team USAgets to play in the first round next summer. I have a story up on this in the news headlines box on the main NBA page, so plz go check it out. Much more tocome after tomorrow's draw, so check back on the main page tomorrow for an analysis of the draw column, and on TrueHoop, where I'll post a littlesomething extra. Plenty of NBA stuff to talk about, too, and I'll warn you in advance that I may show a pro-Philly tilt after having spent half of lastweek there covering Allen Iverson's return. Off we go ...

Michael (PDX)


Do you see the Blazers making a move soon? If so, who do you think they'll go after?

Chris Sheridan (3:07 PM)


Well, they're calling Tuesday Andre Miller Day aty water coolers around the NBA, because lots of people thought the Blazers signed him simply to be a tradeasset, and tomorrow is the first day he is eligible to be traded (check Marc Stein's Weekend Dime for a list of all players with trade restrictions, andwhen they expire). I think Portland tipped its hand when it went after a wing player in Hedo Turkoglu right from the get-go, and I think that remains a spotthey need to fill (along with a big body to backup Joel P. It is a well-known fact around the league that the Knicks are willing to move Al Harrington, whowould be a fantastic fit for Portland, but the Blazers would have to take back Jeffries in order for the Knicks to make that deal, and when you throw him in itis very hard to find enough ballast to go along with Andre (and Rudy Fernandez, whom the Knicks would insist upon) to make the deal work.

Rick (Philly)


We tried a new coach. We tried signing AI. What should the sixers do since everything seems to be falling apart?

Chris Sheridan (3:09 PM)


For starters, get Andre Iguodala to hit one of those last-second game-winners he keeps missing. That would cure a lot. Second, be patient with Speights. He wasplaying great before he got hurt. Third, remember what conference you play in. A week ago, the Knicks were more of a laughingstock than y'all were. Now,they're a relative juggernaut.

Lior (Houston)


Does it make sense to you that: (a) TMAC is on the all star ballot (b) He's 2nd in voting.

Chris Sheridan (3:12 PM)


No in both cases. But I was not on the panel that picked the ballot names (that would be, ahem, Stein), so I take no responsibility. My question is this: Howmuch support is T.Mac getting from online voters, specifically overseaso online voters. NBA.com gets a ton of traffic from China, and I think the NBA shouldgive us a breakdown of where specific pockets of All-Star support are coming from.

Juicebox (Orlando)


Do you think that the Magic will move Gortat this year or wait until the summer of 2010?

Chris Sheridan (3:15 PM)


Depends on what kins of a situation he was being traded into, since he has a veto (as does Paul Millsap, since their offer sheets were matched). Orlando isforbidden to trade him to Dallas (also part of the restricted free agent matching rules), and it's hard for me to see the Magic getting that kind of atalent at that kind of a price who would be that good of an insurance policy behind Dwight. So I see Gortat sitting put this season, and maybe for a long timeafter that, too. Such are the perils of signing for mid-level money as a restricted free agent 7-foot center.

Dan (DC)


Since we're talking about teams with problems, what's to be done with the Wizards? I'm afraid they are going to make salary dump plays with thepoor record and new ownership.

Chris Sheridan (3:19 PM)


They boggle my mind, and I have noticed that Gilbert Arenas' mind has seemed to be racing as he has stepped to the FT line in the last two games (or two ofthe last three, can't quite recall) with a chance to ice or solidify both games, and missed both shots both times. Missed 'em badly, too. And inyesterday's game those two misses are what cost them that game vs. the Pacers. (The ending of that game, BTW, should be used as a case study on how tocorrectly use video review). So that's a long way of saying they got to get their heads on straight, beginning with Gilbert. Those guys haven't been onthe same page in the locker room this year -- or a lot of times in years past, too (at least in the Haywood-Thomas feud days). Still, they have a new coach,we'e onl a quarter of the way into the season, and again: they play in the East, where everyone except the Nets is one good 7-game stretch from being aplayoff team.

Will (WV)


Do you think the departure of Gay this off season will boost Mayo up to the top 10-15 scorers in the NBA?

Chris Sheridan (3:22 PM)


Whoa? The departure? Not so fast. The Grizz could be playing a game of chicken with Rudy, who is arguably a max player but did not get a max offer fromMemphis. if Rudy goes out and signs a max offer sheet next summer with another team, he can only get five years and 8 percent raises max, instead of six yearsand 12.5 percent raises. That right there might be incentive enough for the Grizz to match _ getting a max player at a discount.

Big Moe (Charlotte NC)


I'm one of the biggest Laker fans there is but I find myself at a cross roads..Could the one thing that makes Kobe a great player also be his biggest flaw?I admire his will and competivness but playing wiht a broke finger and flu sympthms really nesscary? At one point does someone ( PHIL, GASOL, ARTEST or hisbest friend FISHER) say Kobe, relax ..we got this tonight? I mean, it's great he's trusting his team mates while he's on the court butshouldn't he trust them when he's off too? What's your thoughts?

Chris Sheridan (3:26 PM)


It's not my index finger, so I don't know how much it is hurting him. I also don't know and whether rest would fix it or just keep him from makingit worse. i think if the pain persists and his shot suffers, he'll do whatever is the right thing for the team -- even if it means a 2-month recovery inwhich the Lakers would likely drop to the middle of the pack in the West. Cuz even if they finish 5th, there is no one in that conference who scares them whenthey are at full strength.

Chris Sheridan (3:26 PM)


It's not my index finger, so I don't know how much it is hurting him. I also don't know and whether rest would fix it or just keep him from makingit worse. i think if the pain persists and his shot suffers, he'll do whatever is the right thing for the team -- even if it means a 2-month recovery inwhich the Lakers would likely drop to the middle of the pack in the West. Cuz even if they finish 5th, there is no one in that conference who scares them whenthey are at full strength.

Felix (Riga, Latvia)


Do you think Griffin could winn ROY? I think he doesn't deserve it, unless he literally averages 30+15 when he comes in. Evans and Jennings have allreadyplayed great and taken their teams further than we thought. It should be decided between them

Chris Sheridan (3:30 PM)


First of all, apologies for the slowness. The chat room software apparently has the hiccups today. as for your question, Felix ...

Chris Sheridan (3:32 PM)


Jennings and Evans have been the flavors of the month, and January might bring someone else. I think Griffin is going to take some time to get himselfestablished in that rotation, especially with Thornton playing so well recently, and the lack of a Camby trade creating that logjam in the middle with Kaman.In other words, Griffin has to klearn on the fly and earn his minutes at the same time, which is a tough task when everyone around him has 25-30 games undertheir belts. That being said, if he plays to his potential in feb., March and April, he can still win ROY. Very much so.

Carlos (Mexico)


The grizzlies have been great lately, beating good teams and destroying the bad teams. With 2 massive expiring contracts next year (randolph and jaric) and 3first rounders in the upcoming draft, do you think they will surpass the thunder for the best young team title ?

Chris Sheridan (3:37 PM)


Carlos, I've kind of felt like a freak job recently, but I've really enjoyed watching Grizzlies games recently. I'm as astounded as anyone by theirsuccess, but Rudy Gay is wonderful to watch, Marc Gasol is developing at such a rate that people might one day say he was better than Pau (I have had Spanishjournalists tell me this will be the case in 10 years), and there's always the freak factor in that you might actually see Zack Randolph get an assist.They have what the Thunder need -- a big post presence at both the 4 and 5 -- and I will say, strange as it seems to say it, they have a chance at peakingbefore OKC does.

Jake (Salt Lake)


Do you see the Jazz making any moves to try to make a push? Is AK's contract short enough now that teams might be willing to take it on? Thanks.

Chris Sheridan (3:40 PM)


I think they want to see what they're going to get out of Miles and now Korver not that both are halthy, and make their perimeter game their focus at thetrade deadline if they feel they're lacking at that position. I still think AK's contract is too big to be moved, but you never know. Heck, JeromeJames got traded last year and has already been in trade rumors this year.

josh (orlando)


rumblings of TMac to Miami... what say you?

Chris Sheridan (3:44 PM)


For what? He makes $23.5 million, and the Heat only have Haslem's $8 million expiring deal unless they want to give the Rockets Jermaine O'Neal, too,along with Daequan Cook (on the books for $2.2 million next season) while taking back Brent Barry's contract. That would give the Heat real money savingsthis year and an additional $2 million to play with next summer when they, the Knicks and nets will all be the heaviest hitters in terms of cap room.

Brian (SF)


The Cavs don't seem to have a go to five man lineup and on a lot of nights, everything besides Lebron and Mo Williams looks like a platoon. Is this a causefor concern, or do you think the roles on the team need to be better defined?

Chris Sheridan (3:48 PM)


That's what they are, Brian, a team with a platoon at every position except those two. And those platoons have flaws _ Shaquille too immobile and Z tooknon-physical at center, Andy a bad shooter and Hickson a non-aggressive rebounder at 4, West-Gibson a crapshoot every night at 2. Is this a cause for concern?Yes. Can it be overcome by the greatness of one player? Yes.

Jon (NYC)


Would Harrington, Jeffries and the savings from Cuttino Mobley's contract be enough to get T-Mac from the Rockets?

Chris Sheridan (3:50 PM)


Donnie Walsh would do that deal in a second, and he'd throw in $3 million cash to get it done. But the Rockets have not been receptive to the Knicksinquiries in the past re McGrady, who would be a panacea for NY's cap situation if they could move Jeffries/Curry in a McGrady deal.

Jim (Providence)


The genius of Danny Ainge was in keeping Rondo out of the Garnett trade...or was it the stupidity of McHale for not insisting on his inclusion?!?!

Chris Sheridan (3:52 PM)


Maybe the credit should go to the guy on ainge's staff who worked the phones on the draft day deal that allowed them to get the Suns' pick and takeRondo. That was the summer, you'll remember, when the Suns handed $20-plus million to Marcus Banks and sold the pick that was used on Rondo. When they dothe top 10 worst deals of this decade, that one is on the list.

Curtis (New York)


Hey Chris thanks for chatting today. I know you get tons of Knicks questions in regard to 2010 but I am not asking about Lebron coming. I want to know what canthe Knicks do within the next 2-3 years to be contenders. Do we need to make some smart moves now, pick up someone like Joe Johnson or Amare, then build fromthere. Then wait for Curry to come off the books and compliment the team with someone like CP3 in 2011? Would something like this work?

Chris Sheridan (3:55 PM)


Bottom line: If they can't get Curry and Jeffries off the books by June 31, they sell their top max free agent candidate on the idea that they'll beable to go get another max guy in 2011 with the Curry/Jeffries money.

Zach (Portland)


But how about Gortat to the Blazers? Any way that could happen?

Chris Sheridan (3:56 PM)


Only if Orlando gets someone back who can provide adequate Dwight insurance, and Portland doesn't have that (although Przybilla is nice Oden insurance).

Jordan (Toronto)


Gortat and Bass plus a number 1 pick to the Raptors for Bargnani?

Chris Sheridan (3:58 PM)


Never in a million years would Toronto do that.

John (Denver)


Do you think the Nuggets need/will make a move?

Chris Sheridan (4:00 PM)


I still think they need an additional shooter/scorer off the bench like they had in Kleiza last yar, and AC is not the same level of defender in reserve asDahntay Jones was. If J.R. smith's game doesn't rise up a notch soon, I could see them entertaining offers for someone similar to him who plays betterD.

Chris Sheridan (4:00 PM)


That's a wrap, folks. See you next Monday, same time, same place
 
There's an article on NBA.com by David Aldridge where he says Pritchard offered Andre Miller for Battier.

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@ his buyer's remorse

We don't need an aging point though, so, no deal
 
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There's an article on NBA.com by David Aldridge where he says Pritchard offered Andre Miller for Battier.
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Somebody who won't take the ball, but plays great D and helps the team in other ways. These are the guys Portland is gonna have to go after now.

Awesome.
 
Jon (NYC)
Would Harrington, Jeffries and the savings from Cuttino Mobley's contract be enough to get T-Mac from the Rockets?

Chris Sheridan (3:50 PM)
Donnie Walsh would do that deal in a second, and he'd throw in $3 million cash to get it done. But the Rockets have not been receptive to the Knicks inquiries in the past re McGrady, who would be a panacea for NY's cap situation if they could move Jeffries/Curry in a McGrady deal.
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Carlos (Mexico)


The grizzlies have been great lately, beating good teams and destroying the bad teams. With 2 massive expiring contracts next year (randolph and jaric) and 3 first rounders in the upcoming draft, do you think they will surpass the thunder for the best young team title ?

Chris Sheridan (3:37 PM)


Carlos, I've kind of felt like a freak job recently, but I've really enjoyed watching Grizzlies games recently. I'm as astounded as anyone by their success, but Rudy Gay is wonderful to watch, Marc Gasol is developing at such a rate that people might one day say he was better than Pau (I have had Spanish journalists tell me this will be the case in 10 years), and there's always the freak factor in that you might actually see Zack Randolph get an assist. They have what the Thunder need -- a big post presence at both the 4 and 5 -- and I will say, strange as it seems to say it, they have a chance at peaking before OKC does.

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