News On Future Films Based on Comics/Paranormal/Sci-Fi
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Not bad, not bad at all
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The Endor troopers were always my favorite
But those streamlined ones look nice so far. It's 30 years later, so it makes sense to "modernize" them a bit. Same as the changes were made from the Star Destroyers in the OG and the Prequels.
Yeah, those are still my favorite as well and I'm so anxious to finally get one of these helmets in a few months.
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Comics aint just Marvel and DC. If this goes down I think it creates room for someone to step up and re-establish a big two or make it a big 3.It would really bother me if the comics industry was consolidated into one company.
I just feel thats bad for the art form.
Dynamite, IDW, Dark Horse, Boom!, Valiant, etc. There's always rumors and near happenings of publishers merging or one buying the other. If the aforementioned happens I'm sure the rest would step their games up.Plus there's always creator owned comics with Image.
Besides, you talk to some comic fans both DC and Marvel have already ruined the art form and are just repeating themselves with bad ideas.
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they are two biggest and they will always be the two biggest work for hire guys, they employ the most people, less competition is bad for everyone.
yeah they don't have the resources or the historic brands to step up and do anything, they are small time players. Image comics is a different animal as its creator owned.
thats a matter of opinion. comics repeat themselves thats how it works, everything eventually returns to the status quo. but less competition is bad.
marvel and dc have completely different editorial visions right now consolidating the two is bad for everyone.
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It's not necessarily less competition and I still think the rest could pool their resources and establish a new brand/company as has always been talked about and been a possibility.
Separately probably not but I didn't say the could step up and fill that void on their own in the first place.
Anyway, the most important thing the big 2 have over the rest is their established characters and brands but we've seen before how other brands have found success.
If that's how it works and that's what you expect it isn't much of an art form in the first place. If repeating yourself and returning to the status quo is inevitable then competition is irrelevant. While this is prevalent in comics I don't believe it has to be that way. Way too many ppl have bought in and misconstrued the saying about the "illusion of change".
I think you're confused here. Disney buying WB does not mean Marvel publishing and DC publishing are merging in to one publisher. That's like thinking because Disney bought Lucas Films that Star Wars has to merge with Marvel movies or the comics have to merge which they haven't and from all reports and statements will not for the foreseeable future.
So I'm not sure why'd you think the two editorial regimes would have to compromise their editorial visions in anyway. If anything this acquisition would just allow for another line of DC vs. Marvel/Amalgam comics not some actual merge between comic universes and publishers.
As Tom Brevoort has said on the topic one of the negatives to this happening is both Marvel and DC cutting their output in half by some mandate by Disney in order to only maximize their biggest selling brands; Batman, Spidey, etc.
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1. Dude two large companies merge in market is less competition period. redundancy alone will decrease the amount of job available.
2. no other company can fill the void left by dc or marvel, this relaly isn't an arguemnt.
3. different visions in the same medium. the medium itself always eventually returns to the status quo thats what happens in narratives that never end. but having different stories/vision/tones with the medium is important.
4. What is the purpose of buying a second publishing company and paying extra for redundancies between them. I assume that Disney purchasing WB and DC would eventually lead to consolidation of redundancies and the merger of the two companies like in all acquisitions.
2. no other company can fill the void left by dc or marvel, this relaly isn't an arguemnt.
3. different visions in the same medium. the medium itself always eventually returns to the status quo thats what happens in narratives that never end. but having different stories/vision/tones with the medium is important.
4. What is the purpose of buying a second publishing company and paying extra for redundancies between them. I assume that Disney purchasing WB and DC would eventually lead to consolidation of redundancies and the merger of the two companies like in all acquisitions.
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You're talking about Disney and TW here. Not Marvel and DC. Two huge media conglomerates merging would cause less competition if there was a whole lot of redundancy but there isn't a whole lot.
Keep it to Disney and TW if you're going to talk about who is merging.
That remains to be seen.
So what if it's two different visions in the same medium? Marvel and DC have two different visions in the same medium right now. Disney has been largely hands off of Marvel comics as long as they continue to make money. Disney acquiring TW and thus DC does not directly affect DC's editorial vision unless DC isn't holding up it's end financially and if that happens that would be on them.
Saying "the medium itself always eventually returns to the status quo" isn't even a sentence that makes sense. The medium is comic books. The genre is superheroes. However, if I ignored those misunderstandings and bought in to what you were saying Spider-Man would still be a teenager in HS. There are changes, even in never ending narratives.
The different visions within the same medium doesn't change anything if Disney buys WB. So competition wouldn't be directly affected.
Again you seem to be missing the entire point. Disney wouldn't be buying just a 2nd publishing company (lets ignore that you're ignoring the other publishing companies Disney already currently owns outside of Marvel) they would be buying the Time Warner corporation and everything that comes with it. That's the purpose. If you read up on this possiblity it talks about what Disney lacks and what they would gain in purchasing Time Warner (not just DC). Not to mention the hundreds of millions they'd make off of tv, and the movie studios earnings directly connected to the publishing company that they're based on. That they also have a publishing company that makes superhero comics isn't an immediate redundancy for the simple fact about the void you're claiming can't be filled by anybody else being a key factor in them continuing on. That it's a separate publishing company would keep the jobs in place for the most part (especially given the amount of ppl DC has already cut from their payroll after their recent move to the west coast).
What you're basically saying is if Disney buys TW they'll eventually get a look at DC and say either they should just have Marvel guys take over or the reverse because a lot of these guys have the same jobs and it would be cost effective ignoring the output in amount of comics monthly of both publishing companies and the income they make separately. It'd be way more smarter to have the same approach Disney has with Marvel if they were to also own DC.
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Can we just point out that the only reason Marvel returns the status quo all the time is because of Franklin Richards. He won't allow anyone in 616 to get older or really die. Everything always resets to the way it was which is kinda genius 
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Aren't there retcons coming after the Original Sins arc wraps up?
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I haven't read too much of original sin just 1 issue but I don't like what I've been hearing about it from one of my comic buddies. Angela being Thor and Loki's sister? Fury essentially turning senile, eh
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Not unless you know something about the issue 8 I don't. This event is really no different than the last one except the premise is specifically to bring up hidden secrets for the heroes involved. Most are retcons but nothing Earth shattering imo; Somebody else got by the radioactive spider, Thor and Loki have a sister, Cap finds out about what happened in New Avengers, Luke Cage finds out his dad teamed up with some heroes in the 70s to stop some occult threat, DD finds out his dad may have been abusive to his moms, etc.
The main one is with Fury and it's cool but not much of a surprise given all the stuff he's been shown doing. Just an evolution to it on the highest scale.
When Marvel comics bought Angela from Neil Gaiman they decided to make it so that she technically was always apart of it just somewhere else instead of literally making her somebody from another universe. They came up with tying her to Thor's world as his older sister.
I haven't read too much of original sin just 1 issue but I don't like what I've been hearing about it from one of my comic buddies. Angela being Thor and Loki's sister? Fury essentially turning senile, eh
As for Fury, he's lost his infinity formula years ago. It's been in a ton of his stories. He's not senile at all. His revealed title keeps in line with his badassery. I'd assume one wouldn't like it if they wanted to keep Fury just a super spy on Earth. He just owned the majority of the Avengers in the past issue despite being old as ****.
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Episode VII villain concept
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Yeah the infinity formula has essentially made fury immortal because it's in his blood now and he doesn't have to take it annually like he once did. I'm not really feeling the original sins event though. Looking forward to "AXIS" and I wanna see what the hype over "Time runs out"
...that Star Wars ep VII villain look dope
...that Star Wars ep VII villain look dope
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Dumb & Dumberer copies Lucy poster
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Sir San Diego
formerly brolic scholar
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That's gold lol
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Pain and Gain >>>But Will and Martin are geezers
Bad Boys 2 is Michael Bay's finest work
srs
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I liked Pain & Gain a lot too.
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Doc Strange not an origin film.
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but I liked Dr. Strange's origin story...
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^No need for it tho. You can literally sum up his origin in 12 mins and get to the awesomeness. If Marvel got X-Men back I would want them to skip the origin as well
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If Marvel ever got Xmen back man...
That probably won't happen until I'm a old man
