News On Future Films Based on Comics/Paranormal/Sci-Fi

[rell826]

Perfect execution

 

[blastercombo]

Dr doom is my favorite marvel character and they turned him into niptuck in the movie


His disrespect alone makes him top 5 all time

 

[AEA18]

Knew a Batman gif/pic was coming


Batman has prep time on his side

 

[sunshineblotters]

How would Falcon in the movie universe become Cap? He has no powers just a well trained soldier.

Would make more sense if Bucky/TWS became the new Cap, he has already been introduced and it happened in the comics.

I'm not even sure the script is even a quarter finished so IDK where this rumor is coming from. Definitely gonna call ******** on this one. There has to be a reason Bucky was signed for 9 movies.

Isn't cap just wolverine without the metal bones and claws? That's pretty much how I see him

I don't think his healing factor touches Wolverines but I know next to nothing about him. I just found out a couple months ago that his speed and strenght level was that high [73 second mile 1200 lb bench press]

Captain America is more than a person, he's an ideal. I don't want to turn this into a race thing, it will should he be the replacement, but is it because he's of color?

There is a black Capt America tho

Dr doom is my favorite marvel character and they turned him into niptuck in the movie


His disrespect alone makes him top 5 all time

Hopefully the reboot flops so Marvel can do it right but that is a pipe dream

 

[sunshineblotters]

EDIT: Also if you are a hulk fan I suggest you read Original Sin 3.1 Hulk vs Iron Man. Granted the story aint over yet but if these unlocked memories are true.

Side note, isn't dr doom just evil ironman? Or am I missing something?

His magic is second only to the Sorcerer Supreme. Wiccan will likely catch up since he is established to be the next sorcerer supreme. Right behind Reed Richards as the smartest character in the Marvel Universe.



I was told he could win a fight against Supes if he had prep time cuz his magic so strong.

 

[rfx45]

At least one of my box office predictions is correct.

Gitesh Pandya @giteshpandya
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#AgeOfExtinction has sped past XMen, CaptAmerica & Spidey to become 2014's #1 global hit w/ $752.5M heading to $1.25B+.

 

[sunshineblotters]

What page were those. I am not even close. IDK how HTTYD2 flopped. I dont think they have broken even after marketing cost yet.

 

[rell826]

HTTYD2 flopped because it came out during a crowded couple of weeks. Should have been a mothers day movie since it had Hiccup finding out he had a mom out there. DreamWorks went Fathers Day again and it backfired.

 

[shogun]

I didn't even remember what movie age of extinction was. Had to look it up.

Still have to watch How To Train Your Dragon 2.

 

[Sir San Diego]

HTTYD2 was decent. I took my girls to see it and despite the really corny and sappy parts, enjoyed it. I'm surprised that it flopped.

 

[rfx45]

It more than doubled its budget, I don't think it's a flop, it just didn't make as much as people thought it would.

 

[lamekilla]

Latveria throne > genius, billionaire, playboy, philanthropist

We agree on something


:x at Transformers going for the billie again. That movie was a POS

 

[sunshineblotters]

It more than doubled its budget, I don't think it's a flop, it just didn't make as much as people thought it would.

You only keep half of the box office. So yah they more than broke even, not by much. But there are some movies with marketing budgets almost as big as the production budget. They never release marketing budgets but I guarantee its more than the $24.75M. Meaning it hasnt broke even yet.

Movies are a business not art. Unless they sold a ridiculous amount of merch it is a flop. And for a children's movie that is not a good ROI. Maybe for Dreamworks. They seem to have as many misses as hits.

 

[sunshineblotters]

We agree on something


:x at Transformers going for the billie again. That movie was a POS

You KNEW it would be terrible then you went to see it anyway. Why wouldn't it make a billion

In terms of accomplishment yah Latverian throne is better. But I would rather be the genius, billionaire, playboy, philanthropist.

 

[Master Zik]

Opinions on Falcon being the next Captain America in the MCU after he's made the new Cap full-time in the comics?

Probably won't happen in the movies. Winter Soldier is the one with the 9 movie deal or w/e.

As for the comics, it's actually happened once before with Falcon. I figure this time around it'll last longer but eventually Steve will return.

 

[rfx45]

It more than doubled its budget, I don't think it's a flop, it just didn't make as much as people thought it would.

You only keep half of the box office. So yah they more than broke even, not by much. But there are some movies with marketing budgets almost as big as the production budget. They never release marketing budgets but I guarantee its more than the $24.75M. Meaning it hasnt broke even yet.

Movies are a business not art. Unless they sold a ridiculous amount of merch it is a flop. And for a children's movie that is not a good ROI. Maybe for Dreamworks. They seem to have as many misses as hits.

Not 100% true, before all these comic book flicks made big bucks, these comic book films only doubled their budget (or a little bit more). Look at Blade/Blade II, Incredible Hulk, Xmen, Hellboy, etc... including the one-time films like V for Vendetta and Constantine, none of those are considered flops.

Now John Carter with a $250m budget and only made $285 worldwide, now that's a flop.

HITYD isn't done with it's run in the theaters yet and it still going to get plenty of bluray sales and their merchandising can't be that bad, it's still a kids movie unlike the likes of Blade or even RIddick which barely made double it's budget but already got a green light for another sequel.

Man of Steel has reportedly made its budget back just from the advertising and merchandising licenses even before the film released.


For a more detailed read on how much money these films have to make to be successful, you can read on here: http://io9.com/5747305/how-much-money-does-a-movie-need-to-make-to-be-profitable

Lots of factors comes to play like domestic numbers, foreign numbers and even the theaters contract with the films and such. In some cases, the studios can even make money even if the movie doesn't make it's budget back:

And in some cases, a studio will actually have less money at stake than the film's production budget — sometimes, the distributor will just acquire an already-made film for a small fee, plus marketing costs, says Gitesh Pandya with BoxOfficeGuru.com. In those cases, the studio can make a profit even if the film doesn't make back its production budget.

However...

So how do you know if the box-office gods have smiled enough on your favorite movie that studios are likely to greenlight similar films?

The short answer is, it depends on a number of factors, but a rule of thumb seems to be that the film needs to make twice its production budget globally.

Which HTTYD2 is on right now and they still getting a few mil every week and probably had a good couple more weeks left to a month before it is completely removed.

 

[danger style]

How to train your dragon 2 has been a ******* disaster for DreamWorks, there's no other way to cut it.

Making a bit of profit off the movie isn't gonna be good enough. They were banking on this movie to break out and make up for flops like Turbo and Rise of the Guardians, but it's done nothing except disappoint.

There's really no explaining how this movie is gonna make around 50 million less domestically than the first movie with a more favorable release date and no competition :x

Ever since this movie released, DreamWorks stock has been dropping and my friend who works for them says everybody is stressed out. They really need to turn things around

 

[rfx45]

Numbers are disappointing for sure but that doesn't necessarily mean it's a flop. It's my #3 in my summer box office predictions just behind T4 and ASM2 so I surely expected it to be big.



Turbo actually made some money, eventually. I remember going to say it was a flop a few weeks back but saw a report that Dreamworks were satisfied with the numbers it produced in the end.

Could it be? Turbo gains ground

But, really, the elephant in the room was a snail named Turbo, whose namesake movie turned in a horrifically bad box office debut earlier this month, bringing in just $21.3 million in the U.S. during its opening weekend.

For reference, that was even worse than Rise of the Guardians' dismal domestic opening take of $23.8 million last year. And considering that one ended up ultimately resulting in $87 million in writedowns for DreamWorks in the following quarter, it was no surprise several analysts chimed in after Turbo hit the big screen to forecast potentially huge writedowns this time around as well.

But speaking on the company's earnings conference call Wednesday evening, CEO Jeffrey Katzenberg stunned those listening when he said Turbo is actually expected to be profitable when all is said and done.

Of course, those profits will likely be muted given the film's slow domestic start and relatively large $135 million production budget, but that's a heck of a lot better than taking a big loss.

To be sure, Katzenberg also took the opportunity to point out that Turbo is generally well liked, with its A- cinema score (A+ among audiences under 1, and claimed:

The film's soft opening is a clear result of an overly saturated marketplace and a difficult release date. This has turned out to be an unprecedented summer, with more family and animated titles than ever, competing for share at the box office. [...] We believe that our specific release date, as well as the difficulty of breaking through the clutter with an original title caused us to fall short of our expectations.

So what saved Turbo? According to Katzenberg, look no further than international audiences, with whom Turbo didn't face the same release date challenges as it did with domestic viewers. As of right now, Turbo's worldwide gross comes in at just above $102 million, with international sales contributing around $42 million.

To this day, Turbo has a worldwide cume of $283m on a $135m budget. I mean those numbers aren't spectacular but it definitely better than what they expected after it made $21m in it's opening weekend.

 

[Fresh Like Will]

HTTYD2 came out during a crowded time period. There's always the cheap theaters and home release to help with a movie like that too because it can be expensive for families to see movies.

I think Kung Fu Panda 3, **** in Boots 2, and Penguins of Madagascar hold much more stock with DreamWorks Animation and will do better though. The Almost Home (or whatever it's called) movie doesn't look good to me. Not sure how well that will do. Mr. Peabody & Sherman never looked good to me either. Penguins trailer was pretty funny and I liked the first **** in Boots movie a lot.

 

[rfx45]

Speaking of box office numbers...

Dawn of the Planet of the Apes debuted with a terrific $73 million. That includes $4.1m in Thursday previews and a $27.7m opening Friday. The 20th Century Fox (a division of 21st Century Fox , Inc.) sequel, which cost $170m to produce, opened well above the $54.8m debut weekend scored by Rise of the Planet of the Apes in August 2011.

It opened with $31.1 million in 26 markets overseas this weekend for a $104m worldwide debut. Overseas is an open question, but Fox’s unmatched overseas muscle means that I cannot imagine the film not crossing $500m worldwide.

 

[bwood056]

Rise of the Planet of the apes was a pretty good flick.

I saw it in those dbox seats (not worth the money).

Best part of the movie was the similarities between both of the apes and the humans two main characters from each species.

 

[sunshineblotters]

Forgot Planet of the Apes came out. Gotta see that one.

How to train your dragon 2 has been a ******* disaster for DreamWorks, there's no other way to cut it.

Making a bit of profit off the movie isn't gonna be good enough. They were banking on this movie to break out and make up for flops like Turbo and Rise of the Guardians, but it's done nothing except disappoint.

There's really no explaining how this movie is gonna make around 50 million less domestically than the first movie with a more favorable release date and no competition :x

Ever since this movie released, DreamWorks stock has been dropping and my friend who works for them says everybody is stressed out. They really need to turn things around

If Home doesnt do well :x

Dreamworks needs to stop with these 3 movies a year It is not doing them any favors.

But yah. They were expecting 800M or so and their stock reflected that. This movie will make less than 500M and their stock is decreasing. The fact that the stock and boosting up might be indicative of merch sales not doing as well as expected either. Even if it is profitable.

I ***** with this franchise tho so I hope they don't cut the budget on the third film. I don't think anything else from Dreamworks touches it. Even the voices they chose are just perfect.

Wonder how Cate Blanchet feels tho. This was supposed to be a hit for her. Her kids "forced" her to do the role she said.

 

[lamekilla]

You KNEW it would be terrible then you went to see it anyway. Why wouldn't it make a billion

In terms of accomplishment yah Latverian throne is better. But I would rather be the genius, billionaire, playboy, philanthropist.

I actually saw it twice :x both times against my will.

Doom > Stark, only because doom takes himself so seriously. It's hilarious

As far as Dreamworks animated films, they all suck. Disney/Pixar owns these kids souls. I didn't even see how Disney produced all that hype for Frozen...I can only imagine what Pixar has in store for Finding Dory or Incredibles 2

 

[sunshineblotters]

How to train your dragon was basically a pixar film as far as I'm concerned. Anyone who says otherwise takes the name brand too seriously. If you never saw the logo and had to guess which the pixar film is between HTTYD, Brave, any of the Cars movies I guarantee 6/10 people would choose HTTYD. I'd put HTTYD above Toy Story 2, Up, and Monster's Inc even. Didnt like Toy Story 2 at all. Did not see how everyone loved it

 

[blakep267]

In 2010, I thought HTTYD was a lot better than toy story 3. But the hype and nostalgia made people not stop talking about TS3.

Also Pixar is getting to the point where people just blindly hype up their movies ever since they did wall e and Up. Brave was a bad movie with a lacking story. I also think Frozen wasn't nearly as great. But of course people aren't going to see it that way. Sure it had great songs but it was lacking something that the great animated movies all had. Nothing was particular gripping or interesting about frozen