News On Future Films Based on Comics/Paranormal/Sci-Fi

[robinvandamn]

for some reason I don't want to see the Rock playing a superhero.. he's almost too big of a "movie star" for it. Like it's always gonna be The Rock on screen and not John Stewart or whoever he ends up playing.

idk though i'm pretty sure this feeling isn't shared

I don't know, that's like saying Depp is too big to be Dr. Strange.

The Rock also already have that prototypical superhero build, no need to pump him with steroids for weeks to get him ready, he is already there. Dude ain't short either like RDJ or Tom Cruise so no need for camera tricks of shoe lifts to make them look taller.

well i've actually heard that argument about Depp but idk i don't really want to see him in any marvel films.

At this point I don't care what DC does casting wise tbh. I'd rather see him in that Terminator reboot before BvS/Justice League.

I've been a Rocky stan my entire life so it's not like I have something against him it'll just be weird see him being the most famous dude associated with a project but be 3 or 4th billing

 

[rfx45]

I doubt he is bigger or more famous than Affleck. And it can be argued that Cavill is pretty close to Rocks star power after Man of Steel. I don't see Cavill being like Routh that just up on and disappeared after Returns, this guy has staying power and have been in talks for all these parts (SUperman in Returns, Batman in Nolan, Bond before it was given to Craig, etc..) and Superman was just the bug break he was waiting for to bust out of to the audiences view.

Plus it wouldn't hurt to be there as a secondary or tertiary character since it could lead to a solo film.

That's just me though, he was also a 3rd or 4th billing in the F&F series and it wasn't weird at all, he fit right in actually. His biggest parts are actually in ensembles films like GI Joe, F&F and Pain & Gain? His solo films like Faster, Snitch, Empire State, Scorpion King, Doom, Journey 2, etc... weren't spectacular. I'm looking forward to seeing Hercules though.

 

[sunshineblotters]

And it can be argued that Cavill is pretty close to Rocks star power after Man of Steel.

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[Master Zik]

for some reason I don't want to see the Rock playing a superhero.. he's almost too big of a "movie star" for it. Like it's always gonna be The Rock on screen and not John Stewart or whoever he ends up playing.

idk though i'm pretty sure this feeling isn't shared

I fully understand this feeling and share it a bit but I still want him to do something in the superhero movie world.

I disagree that Hawkeye had a minor role in Avengers, dude was practically Lokis right hand mana nd single handedly took down the helicarrier. He'll have a decent or the same amount of screen time if not more in the next one.

I don't see Nick Fury having a minor role either especially if Ultron is a SHIELD creation, unless they kill him of in Winter Soldier but even then apparently in this world (just like the comics) no one will stay dead. Hell I actually forgot that Coulson might return to A2 as well.

As for villains, I don't mind that Baron is there for 10-15 minutes but in a 2 hour film, that is long screen time. But the focus is on Ultron so at the end it doesn't matter but that is a lot on their table.


At the end of the day, minor role or not, it's still another hero to fit in and it doesn't matter if they take up 4-5 minutes of screen time, which I doubt (outside of War Machine). Superman/Batman only has 3 confirmed and 2-3 more rumored to have a cameo and it is already being torn apart.

As far as I see it we're talking about minor roles for minor characters that'll never have a solo movie of their own. Hill, Fury, Hawkeye will have their talking/exposition and action time but it'll be second fiddle to the real stars unless it's a scene where they die. I fully expect Fury to be in A2 and A3 but I don't see the likes of him and the rest taking up so much time or being any sort of a problem when Whedon just accomplished balancing like 9 heroic characters starring in Avengers.

I'm not really including the villains screen time to this, the villain(s) always has to be present and it's a movie so it's not gonna be like all of the Avengers take down Baron and then it's a new episode where they take down Ultron, everything will flow in to each other to fit the story.

Phase 3 they may be on some Avengers Disassembled **** leading in to A3 anyway. I expect solo movies from those other guys and they don't have to be in Avengers.

Solo movie or not, they will still likely be all in for Avengers 3 especially if it all leads to Thanos. I mean it makes sense to take out a big villain as Thanos but it's hard to pull that off with so many characters and sharing all those screen time. Whedon did a great job in Avengers pulling these guys together but there is a point where too much is simply too much. Also seems like a waste to have solo films for Strange and BP and not be in Avengers 3, same with GotG since they are pretty much a set-up for Thanos. We know for sure Iron Man is there. The only two dispensable characters are Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver since they'll likely won't have a solo film at all and they can come be forgotten for a few years and be back for Avengers 4 to deal with Scarlet Witches power or something.[/QUOTE]
I'm not sure at all where you're getting it will be likely ALL of those characters you listed will be in A3 even if Thans is the main villain. IF it is, it's gonna be pt. 1 of a story arc. I highly doubt they'll have all those heroes in one 2 or 3 hr movie and tell a complete story where Thanos gets taken down unless Thanos is gonna pull off what he did in the Infinity Gauntlet and make half of the heroes no longer exist.

 

[sunshineblotters]

I've said this before but Scarlet and Quick will not have their own movie but I am willing to bet that they are a big part of the Inhumans movie, which I believe they will do if Avengers 2 is good and people like Scarlet and Quick. Basically in ACU mutants will be replaced by Inhumans. Quick and Scarlet will be Inhumans that were, for some plot convenience, born outside the secret Inhuman cities.

 

[rfx45]

I'm not sure at all where you're getting it will be likely ALL of those characters you listed will be in A3 even if Thans is the main villain. IF it is, it's gonna be pt. 1 of a story arc. I highly doubt they'll have all those heroes in one 2 or 3 hr movie and tell a complete story where Thanos gets taken down unless Thanos is gonna pull off what he did in the Infinity Gauntlet and make half of the heroes no longer exist.

I don't get why you don't think they won't? I mean at this point, it is all building up to Thanos so it does make sense and their phases plans end at Phase 3 and most assume it is to face Thanos.

We all know there will be a Phase 4 and beyond but right now, Phase 3 is the end and it isn't far fetch to think it'll end Thanos' pursuit of the Infinity Gems joined by all the heroes they've featured in films so far.

Just likes your post, mine is also a guess but I think my guess has a bigger chance considering what they are doing and hinting/advertising the gems and Thanos in all almost all of their films. Hell they even made the Tesseract a gem so you can even consider having that as a prelude to Thanos now too so it dates back all the way to First Avenger for a sign of Thanos (outside of the impossible to see Gauntlets in Thor) ? It's all pointing up to a build up against Thanos by everyone.

Like I explained, there will likely be some excluded like War Machine, Quicksilver & Scarlet Witch, etc... but they'll likely be replaced with Strange, Ant-Man and BP and most of the other heroes will be in A3. Also, as you explain below, tiny screen time can still make them possible so in the end, someone like War Machine can be in there for a few minutes giving a few shots in at Thanos or if he has an army or whatever.

As far as I see it we're talking about minor roles for minor characters that'll never have a solo movie of their own. Hill, Fury, Hawkeye will have their talking/exposition and action time but it'll be second fiddle to the real stars unless it's a scene where they die. I fully expect Fury to be in A2 and A3 but I don't see the likes of him and the rest taking up so much time or being any sort of a problem when Whedon just accomplished balancing like 9 hero starring movie in Avengers.

Again, it's not the fact that they'll be in the film for a minute for 30 seconds or 45 minutes, it's the point that they'll be in the film and have to be fit in somehow. While over at DC, they are being lambasted over 3 confirmed characters (one still likely a cameo) plus the rumors of 2-3 other characters (which are also likely cameos as well).

 

[Master Zik]

We'll see when we get there, right now I'm not seeing A3 consisting of all of those heroes and like I said if it does Thanos will quickly make half of them irrelevant. At best they could go for sending off the old and bringing in the new if Falcon, War Machine, Ms. Marvel, Strange, BP, Ant-Man, etc. are all gonna be in A3 (again which I doubt) but I still think a story like that would require a multi part movie not just one.

Again, it's not the fact that they'll be in the film for a minute for 30 seconds or 45 minutes, it's the point that they'll be in the film and have to be fit in somehow. While over at DC, they are being lambasted over 3 confirmed characters (one still likely a cameo) plus the rumors of 2-3 other characters (which are also likely cameos as well).

What do you mean "fit in somehow". S.H.I.E.L.D is well established in the movies. That's a handful of the characters you listed already. I do not think BP, Strange. or Ant-Man are gonna be in Avengers 3 so I'm not seeing how hard it'll be to fit in the remaining characters. The way it looks it'll be the Avengers, SHIELD guys, and GOTG up against Thanos w/IG, one or two lesser villains probably cosmic/aliens, some cameos by other villains, and his army.

Ms. Marvel isn't showing up in A2 as Ms. Marvel. I fully expect set up and introduction, I don't see anything kree related in A2 coming in so she'll probably just be another SHIELD agent. So unless they change her origin and tie her to Ultron I expect her to become empowered in A3 as of what little we know now.

The reason DC gets ******* on is cuz they really do seem like they can't do something simple and good. Marvel has the structure and proven track record cuz of the way they led up to Avengers. It'd take a few terrible movies to change how they're viewed. DC went from one okay MOS movie which ended with either ppl who loved or hated it and for those who loved it they looked forward to a really good and better world building sequel, hopes of Lex and what not. Instead it appears DC went for trying to catch up to Marvel too quickly with Batman vs. Superman, something they knew would drive fanboys crazy and generate a lot of hype and (even when that was announced I wasn't as happy as I thought I'd be) that could've been good enough but no that wasn't enough, just to try and hedge their bets cuz A2: AOU is probably gonna gross $2-4 billion they've turned an MOS sequel in to a Bats vs. Supes flick and now to a JL lite movie cuz they're impatient.

Simply put DC has a lot more to prove. The fans already have faith in Whedon, Fiege and Marvel. Not so much for Snyder, Goyer and DC. So you're gonna get criticized for every little rumor and every official announcement from ************* Jesse Eisenberg as Lex Luthor to WW going undercover in Wayne enterprises to get some artifact or some bull **** that belongs to her family and other **** like Aquaman not being called Aquaman but blah blah. That's how it's gonna be until DC makes a great movie in their new shared superhero universe.

 

[rfx45]

When I said "fit in somehow", it isn't limited to just SHIELD but to everyone. Whedon still have to find room for Nick Fury and Maria Hill in there though and not make look like a throwaway parts, they have to be relevant if they are in the film so even if SHIELD is full yinte grated, the people who represent them will take some screen time.

I think Strange and Ant-Man will be there, BP being unconfirmed is hard to say but I think he'll be there too. Strange just because he is replacing Starks role of being the middle guy for all or the glue, I think that's how they described Starks role. Ant-Man and BP, I think both will be a waste if they get solo films in Phase 3 and then not show up in A3.

Phase 3 already have plenty of films set too, Cap 3 and Thor 3 are supposedly in writing stages already, Strange was confirmed by Feige and Stan Lee keeps throwing BP out there along with a GotG sequel already in the works. That is still not including Ant-Man months after A2 releases. So far that is 6 solo films before A3 and we know Marvel will try their best to tie them in to Thanos for A3 and advertise the hell out of him. They also have to build up the rest of the infinity gems and officialy introduce the gauntlet. I am not sure if they'll make it so Scarlet Witch somehow possesses one or if Ultron will be imbued with one found by SHIELD somewhere but we do know GotG will have another.

There are plenty of building there still so we'll see how it is after Cap2 and GotG ends.




I agree with your assessment of DC but you can't take all those rumors as true though, so many rumors have been thrown out there like Cranston being hired as Lex, so many reports that it was done but then it turns out he wasn't even considered for the role at all. I still think Eisenberg will be fine, the same way Affleck will be fine as Batman.

 

[danger style]

Goddamnit...missed out on Comic con preregistration again. Giving up on ever attending this damn event |I

 

[Master Zik]

I kinda just did address those ppl you brought up. It won't be hard AT ALL to let Fury have a meaningful role in A3 and Hill depending on what Fury does. Like I said S.H.I.E.L.D. and it's main players are well established.

I don't think BP is getting a film in Phase 3 or Dr. Strange. That phase is about to start and Marvel is still only releasing 2 movies a year. There's already rumors of a Cap 3, Thor 3, and GOTG 2. Don't be surprised when the likes of Dr. Strange and BP don't get solos until phase 4 and same for an Ant-Man sequel. To me Strange being confirmed doesn't mean he's confirmed to have a movie and/or be in A3, same for the rest. Until Marvel start's releasing 3+ movies a year I'm not gonna assume otherwise. From how they've woven the story A3 will either be the last movie of phase 3 or amongst the 1st for phase 4.

Another thing I expect are deaths and exiles so to speak, it's why I mentioned Disassembled in such a loose way earlier. I don't see Avengers 4 & 5 consisting of 10+ heroes. One reason I don't think they'll be such a huge hero glut for A3 is it'd be much easier to just make a new Avengers team. So they can kill Tony, exile Hulk, banish Thor from Midgard, do something ****** up to Cap, and have Widow and Hawkeye decline due to how the last team ended up or w/e. That way if they want they can have their Lord of The Rings/Skyrim/WoW Thor movie all set in the last 8 realms, a planet Hulk movie, etc. That way guys like BP, Strange, Ms. Marvel, hell even Falcon and War Machine can form that Avengers team with Vision, Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch and keep going until the other teams return.




As for DC, I don't believe all the rumors but it sucks when a lot of them are bad. It's even worse when you hear a good rumor like Cranston is LL and then you get crap like Eisenberg as LL instead. I thought Battfleck was a risk then they keep going down hill imo and cast Gadot pretty much leaving it so WW will either be forgotten or she'll be a pleasant surprise (another big risk), and then you give me Jesse Eisenberg.

 

[shogun]

Goddamnit...missed out on Comic con preregistration again. Giving up on ever attending this damn event |I

That sucks. Seems like it's near impossible to get tickets for that thing. My friend in california was eligible for the pre-sale or whatever it is and was able to get his ticket this morning. I went to NYCC but it's garbage compared to SDCC.

 

[Fozz]

That sucks. Seems like it's near impossible to get tickets for that thing. My friend in california was eligible for the pre-sale or whatever it is and was able to get his ticket this morning. I went to NYCC but it's garbage compared to SDCC.

Yeah, I don't think I'll ever get a chance to go to SDCC, but I will be attending my first comic con in Sacramento...lol Pretty cool for Wizard World to bring a Comic Con out here. I can't wait.

 

[rfx45]

I thought Dr. Strange as good as confirmed for Phase 3.

'Ant-Man,' 'Doctor Strange' Lead Marvel's Phase Three


"'Ant-Man' is definitely part of Phase Three," Marvel's Kevin Feige told MTV News during our recent interview. "Like 'Iron Man 3,' it's certainly set in the Marvel Universe, but it's also through the lens of Edgar Wright — which is the only reason we're making the movie."

"So much of the stories we're telling [right now] is about the core 'Avengers' characters we've now met, and they'll be evolving in big, surprising ways, in Cap's next movie and Thor's next movie and of course in 'Iron Man 3,' as we get them all into the next 'Avengers' film," said Feige. "Beyond that… 'Ant-Man' is the only one officially announced, but you probably don't have to look too far to guess at the next list of characters we're toying with and beginning to develop."

"'Doctor Strange,' which I've been talking about for years, is definitely one of them," he confirmed. "He's a great, original character, and he checks the box off this criteria that I have: he's totally different from anything else we have, just like 'Guardians of the Galaxy.' He's totally different from anything we've done before, as is 'Ant-Man,' which keeps us excited."​

Plus without an Iron Man film in Phase 3, Dr. Strange makes sense since they plan to make him the new franchise star replacing Iron Man.

According to CBM's source, DOCTOR STRANGE is being groomed to be the next "Iron Man," taking the lead as the character who binds not only the Earth-bound superheroes together, but also the intergalactic and interdimensional ones as well. Here's the source: "What I can say is that Strange is being groomed to be the next Iron Man. The studio needs a new 'hub' character going into Phase 3 and beyond, as there is audience fatigue, aging stars and a need to move from Tony Stark/Iron Man as a 'hub' for films."

http://www.joblo.com/movie-news/is-marvels-doctor-strange-being-groomed-to-be-the-next-iron-man

 

[rell826]

Variety reports that Southland actor Ben McKenzie has won the lead role in FOX's Gotham series, which will focus on a pre-GCPD Commissioner Gordon and Gotham City in the years before Bruce Wayne became Batman.

McKenzie, 35, actually voiced the Dark Knight himself in the animated feature film version of Batman: Year One. He's best known for his roles as Officer Ben Sherman on Southland and as Ryan Atwood on The O.C.

Danny Cannon (Judge Dredd) will direct the Gotham pilot. FOX has given the show a straight-to-series order. Young Bruce Wayne will be a recurring character on Gotham, which the rumor mill claims will see the likes of a pre-supervillain Penguin and Riddler make appearances on the Nolan-esque gritty origin show.

 

[shogun]

^
Didn't know he was 35. Dude looks a lot younger.

 

[sunshineblotters]

EDIT: My bad

 

[rfx45]

ummm...

 

[Master Zik]

What the **** are you littering the thread with?

Anyway, Ryan from the OC is a good choice for a young James Gordon. Not sure how I feel about a young Bruce Wayne showing up multiple times.

 

[sunshineblotters]

Sorry wrong thread.

 

[rfx45]

Anyway, Ryan from the OC is a good choice for a young James Gordon. Not sure how I feel about a young Bruce Wayne showing up multiple times.

I'm curious how young Bruce will be? I;m guessing teens or early 20s? Not sure I'd really want to see him helping out the GCPD in their cases before Bruce actually dons the cowl.

 

[Master Zik]

Anyway, Ryan from the OC is a good choice for a young James Gordon. Not sure how I feel about a young Bruce Wayne showing up multiple times.

I'm curious how young Bruce will be? I;m guessing teens or early 20s? Not sure I'd really want to see him helping out the GCPD in their cases before Bruce actually dons the cowl.

I assumed it was kid Bruce, so around 10. In his teens he shouldn't even be in Gotham, especially showing up and (secretly) helping the police and if he's 20 that's Batman Year One territory imo. I thought this was mainly focused on Jim and a few villain origins without Batman in the background doing his thing and gaining a rep.

 

[rfx45]

I just find a little kid having a recurring role weird unless Bruce just keeps constantly being threatened or kidnapped for being uber rich, which would get old quick or just change his origins if he keeps getting exposed to villains whether it is before or after his parents gets killed.

 

[Master Zik]

Yeah, if it was up to me he'd make one or two cameos at most for this season.

 

[nomnom]

Was reading about Infinity stones and saw this...If Adam Warlock is set to be in Avengers 3 also, then DAMMMMM cant wait!

 

[ryda421]

adam warlock ? x infinity