**NBA FINALS THREAD - RAPTORS DEFY GRAVITY**

[ripcitythree]

That Blazer fan going to lose 1K tonight?

I may just lose 1k tonight, I hope so but I still highly doubt it. This is Portland we're talking about here were known for choking and failure

 

[addict4sneakers]

Have you ever looked at him?

Endurance =/= muscles.

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

That was Evan Turner's 2nd (correction 3rd) made basket of the playoffs

 

[freeze]

One of the worst games I've seen in a min.

Jamal Murray Niagara Jr. Smith.

 

[BIG LEEMELONE]

Endurance =/= muscles.

'Shape' can mean your physical appearance and/or your conditioning

 

[wavycrocket]

Milsap sometimes man....

 

[freeze]

One dude ive seen improve each year is Klay. Used to be a strictly catch and shoot player coming into the league, then he developed a midrange off of a curl like rip hamilton, then a post game turn around against smaller defenders, and now he’s willing to drive the lane, stop and hit that 15 footer. Like watchin my son grow

If klay ever developed a lay up package. MVP

Spoiler

but this ****ing guy cant dribble for ****

All of this is so true. It's so evident Klay puts in work throughout the summer. dude has definitely evolved.

 

[lawdog1]

Not sure why people think Jokic is out of shape either. He played 81 games in the regular season and is playing 38mpg in the playoffs. He routinely pushes the break. And they play in Denver.

And round (ish) is a shape...

 

[freeze]

Yeah, this really isn’t true. You think Blake Griffin became a good 3 point shooter compared to how he started by just ****ing around in the Summer? How did Giannis get better? LeBron consistently got better each year, etc.

You might be turning into a get-off-my-lawn old head, bro...

Clearly it's not everyone. There are definitely guys growing. As stated, Klay, Blake of course. But a lot of these guys are exactly as they were 3 yrs ago and you know it. A lot of guys games are the exact same. No variety. Not counter moves. No new skill when things tighten up.

Some guys want to do one or two things at the top level. Other guys want to be able to do a bit of everything at a decent level.

 

[addict4sneakers]

Clearly it's not everyone. There are definitely guys growing. As stated, Klay, Blake of course. But a lot of these guys are exactly as they were 3 yrs ago and you know it. A lot of guys games are the exact same. No variety. Not counter moves. No new skill when things tighten up.

Some guys want to do one or two things at the top level. Other guys want to be able to do a bit of everything at a decent level.

Every player has their player attribute caps though.

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

Every player has their player attribute caps though.

And every player isn't Kob

 

[chippedtoothsmile]

That was Evan Turner's 2nd (correction 3rd) made basket of the playoffs

And he’s our 3rd highest paid player smh

 

[addict4sneakers]

And every player isn't Kob

Word like Kobe worked extremely hard but let’s not forget he was a generational talent. You could put Andrew Wiggins on the same regimen and he wouldn’t be Kobe

 

[freeze]

Yeah, I wonder why Klay didn’t improve his ballhandling. He plays next to Steph who constantly worked on his.

I swear handles is a gift man. You can work and work, but if your brain ain't wired for the movements, your body won't respond and you'll always be sus. See Klay, see Bron. Blake got better but it's still hella goofy looking lol and he can't drobble without looking at the ball.

Kd be mixing, at that height, is just silly.

 

[freeze]

Every player has their player attribute caps though.

You're right. And THAT is the hardest ideal to accept as an athlete. That you have limits. Feels bro.

 

[freeze]

Word like Kobe worked extremely hard but let’s not forget he was a generational talent. You could put Andrew Wiggins on the same regimen and he wouldn’t be Kobe

You right. He'd be TMac.

 

[moe200069]

Not sure why people think Jokic is out of shape either. He played 81 games in the regular season and is playing 38mpg in the playoffs. He routinely pushes the break. And they play in Denver.

his muscle tone (or lack thereof) is by no means indicative of his athleticism and endurance; if anything it's a testament to his skill. i mean jokic is running the league so there's no need to suddenly enter the weight room in hopes of becoming ben gordon. but still, it's funny to see a 7 foot built like a school bus driver dominate games.

actually, come to think of it, if demarcus didn't have tattoo sleeves he'd probably have the same body type

 

[lawdog1]

And every player isn't Kob

Exactly. It’s only like the top fraction of NBA players historically that have been able add and max out new skills as pros. Just because not all of them develop new skills doesn’t mean they don’t work hard in the offseason.

Like, JJ Reddick is never going to be crossing dudes over, but he’s made himself into the best version of JJ Reddick. There was a lot of work that went into that.

 

[100027]

I really don't like Murray as a player. Don't have much belief in him.

 

[bostoiah]

I highly doubt dude is coughing up $1k

Calling his bluff

 

[lawdog1]

I swear handles is a gift man.

Elite passing too. Some guys just don’t have the passing gene and can’t develop it no matter how much they practice.’

 

[jumpman91023]

Oh gawd

 

[BIG LEEMELONE]

I swear handles is a gift man. You can work and work, but if your brain ain't wired for the movements, your body won't respond and you'll always be sus. See Klay, see Bron. Blake got better but it's still hella goofy looking lol and he can't drobble without looking at the ball.

Kd be mixing, at that height, is just silly.

This is hard for me to accept. Like I could understand there's a limit to how strong you can get or high you can jump. But I feel like handles and shooting is a matter of will power more than anything. I just think back to Kobe talking about how he was shocked to see how guys didn't work hard when he got to the league

 

[addict4sneakers]

This is hard for me to accept. Like I could understand there's a limit to how strong you can get or high you can jump. But I feel like handles and shooting is a matter of will power more than anything. I just think back to Kobe talking about how he was shocked to see how guys didn't work hard when he got to the league

Watch Jaylen Brown dribble. He dribbles like a dude that constantly works on his handle but he doesn’t have that fluidity

 

[ripcitythree]

Here comes the choke job