**NBA FINALS THREAD - RAPTORS DEFY GRAVITY**

[DCAllAfrican]

They are. Pretty much everyone is saying Capella was trash and CP3 didn’t play up to his contract. But Harden is the marquee guy and reigning MVP, so he gets the bulk of the blame, rightly or wrongly.

So if CP3 and Capela would have played Up To Par, would Harden STILL be considered a choker?

 

[ballinsam23]

He's actually shooting worse than Embiid from 3 this postseason.

Krazy But True. Still cant sag off on him.

 

[Webster21]

What is THE job?

And why isn't anyone else on the HOU squad being held responsible here?

Close the deal.

No one else on the team is the reigning MVP...

 

[Maximus Meridius]

I don't feel he has a BAD playoff resume though.

What I said doesn't directly/indirectly say that either.

I simply said, he does not play as GREAT as he does in the regular season.

He still plays well.

No where near BAD.

To call his playoff RESUME/Portfolio BAD is simply irresponsible.

Again

He has a history of horrible playoff games in big moments. All of them have been listed. If a group of ya'll choose to ignore them and over look it cool, that's ya'll choice but given his history it's valid to say he has a bad resume in the playoffs for somebody that's a superstar.

 

[xxpizzo]

bruh the homie @nickmaz96 posted a damn photo with the % of that Kawhi shot

its was 3% **** was luck

awesome shot but in the end luck played its part.. gasol even said it post game interview

 

[amitt5504]

Ya'll must not hoop to call that shot lucky. Shooters get bounces like that all the time.

NT bunch of.....

I hoop. The shot went in so we cant change that. Was it lucky to go in, yes considering the bounces it took. Does it happen often from the angle he took, nope, thats why we're calling it lucky.

 

[lawdog1]

So if CP3 and Capela would have played Up To Par, would Harden STILL be considered a choker?

By the people who are calling him a choker now, yes.

To be clear though, I am not in that group. I think it’s fair to say the Rockets, collectively, choked in not pushing the series against GSW to a game 7. But I don’t consider Harden a “choker”.

 

[addict4sneakers]

Can’t wait to catch serge under the basket again

 

[MajinZuub]

at literally ONLY 6ers fans calling the shot lucky

 

[ballinsam23]

What was the consensus on Barkley, Ewing, Karl, and all the other all time greats who couldnt get pass Jordan and the Bulls?

Chokers? Would be surprised.

 

[amitt5504]

at literally ONLY 6ers fans calling the shot lucky

RAPTORS PLAYERS WERE CALLING IT LUCKY lol

 

[B Sox]

What was the consensus on Barkley, Ewing, Karl, and all the other all time greats who couldnt get pass Jordan and the Bulls?

Chokers? Would be surprised.

Jordan has also been a “choker” himself in the past.

 

[ballinsam23]

its was 3% **** was luck

How tf do they account for the rotation on the ball, the seams, how far the shot was shot from, the arc, etc etc?

 

[lawdog1]

I’m not going to call any clean, legit basketball shot lucky just because it takes a lot of bounces before going in. To me, a lucky shot is something that goes in when the person can’t even see the basket and just throws it up. Over the backboard, a football throw from 80 feet, etc.

 

[xxpizzo]

How tf do they account for the rotation on the ball, the seams, how far the shot was shot from, the arc, etc etc?

good question no clue im just going by the graph that i seen was posted.. nick normally post useful/legit info lol

eagles got the double doink luck

Sixers didnt get the quadruple doink luck

 

[BIG LEEMELONE]

Jordan has also been a “choker” himself in the past.

Yup. Exactly why he never won a championship

Do yall see how ridiculous you sound?

 

[Maximus Meridius]

He’s the only player to have this version of GSW on the ropes like this. Not even Bron with 2 all stars in their primes and a good roster could snag more than 1 win. I think because Harden isn’t playing them in the nba finals...it gets overlooked.

Yet he couldn't beat the Spurs w/o Kwahi

 

[osh kosh bosh]

Ton of skill to create that look, and Kawhi got a lucky bounce.

 

[MVP]

The Clippers won as many games vs GS as the Rockets did this postseason. And they had KD for all 6 games.

 

[ballinsam23]

The Clippers won as many games vs GS as the Rockets did this postseason. And they had KD for all 6 games.

Lou Will > Harden

 

[Maximus Meridius]

The Clippers won as many games vs GS as the Rockets did this postseason. And they had KD for all 6 games.

Right. It's a misleading argument. Reggie Miller is the player to push the 90's Bulls to a game 7 and people in here claim he's overrated.

 

[B Sox]

Yup. Exactly why he never won a championship

Do yall see how ridiculous you sound?

How was he not a choker before his first title when HE went 6-18 against the Celtics and Pistons in the playoffs?

HE needed to be better, and HE wasn’t.

 

[buc em]

Ball hit the rim 4 times and dudes talambout it’s not lucky

*****S STAY TROLLIN IN HERE

Trolling like hell.

To say that shot was lucky from somebody as great as Kawhi is crazy.

To say that because a player is great means they can’t hit a lucky shot is crazy.

Two things,

1: The shot wasn’t lucky, the bounce was.
2: Harden should’ve got the job done, end of story.

Buddy the bounce was part of the shot...the **** are you talking about we ain’t saying the form was lucky

 

[wavycrocket]

Yet he couldn't beat the Spurs w/o Kwahi

Bad moment like I said. I think he improved quite a bit as a player over these past 2 seasons with dantoni tho. And Cp3, PJ, EG additions and Capela being better helped as well. I’m speaking specifically on these past 2 years tho. Good & bad moments. But his teams really pushed a charged up GSW that nobody had a chance of beating. T

 

[BIG LEEMELONE]

How was he not a choker before his first title when HE went 6-18 against the Celtics and Pistons in the playoffs?

HE needed to be better, and HE wasn’t.

So is harden a choker or not? You managed to label Gordon and Jordan as such but can't bring yourself to say anything bad about harden