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:lol @ Elliot being Tyrell.


Y'all bout to go down that Lost esque rabbit hole.
Funny enough, this idea was floated in S1.

Esmail has repeatedly said he's not playing with reality like that anymore. The majority of what you see as the narrative is happening.

He's not gonna peel back eps of progress and reveal had been in a coma all along. Its also why he's not actually on some psych ward.

Now he could be lying but I doubt it. He didn't sound like a fan of it.


Agreed but not about the psych ward.

Too much evidence to the contrary, it also wouldn't be "playing" with reality for him to be there.
Depends on what you're calling a psych ward. If we discover that home he is in is for mentally disturbed and that's how it looks okay but if suddenly it turns in to an all white padded room/buding with doctors and orderlies, patients in line to take pills like this One Flew Over The ****oo's Nest I'm not buying it.

And I don't think that's what Sam is doing. Every season some new sort of reality bending reveal/twist. For now what you see is what you get. Minus Elliot tripping balls on drugs or Mr. Robot making him hallucinate to drive home some in story point about their struggle.
 
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Just a thought, I mean what was the whole point of that scene? I mean since then the whole show has a dream, or state of unconsciousness about it since then, not that much time has passed only a month or so and on a show full of easter eggs and surprises wouldn't it be way too obvious? I only get the tyrell idea, because joanna looks at elliot like darlene did when he kissed her. Like she recognizes him but he has no clue who she is and why is she protecting him? Honestly we're probably all wrong and something even more shocking is going on.
 
That scene with the minister of secuirty and the FBI agent was amazing. IMO. I just can't believe he let himself slip like that. He showed her way to much and got emotional. She will sone make the connection to the dark army, to him . 
 
Honestly I don't think anything he said, the clocks, the dresses are enough to connect him to the dark army.

She might do some digging.

The dark army attack though, that'll get her connecting some dots.
 
I don't think anyone knows about the white rose / lotus unless he / she wants you to. You're not going to know that person's a part of the dark army or is a cross dressing man unless you do business with them like when he met elliot.
 
I don't know what you have to be on about thought wise to concoct a scenario where the dope house shooting really happened and he's been unconscious but wow.......
 
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That scene with the minister of secuirty and the FBI agent was amazing. IMO. I just can't believe he let himself slip like that. He showed her way to much and got emotional. She will sone make the connection to the dark army, to him . 



Agreed, the scene was amazing and one of the best in a season full of them.


But the only reason why he even took an interest in her and showed her that side of himself is because he already had planned to have her and all the other agents killed the next day.


When they had the initial meeting with the FBI and Dom blurted out that they wanted info on the Dark Army, he made the decision right there.

Just peep how he turns deliberately and looks at her.
 
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He didn't anticipate Dom bae had the quuck reflexes and good shot accuracy.
 
Bless her.


The trigger finger good because she masturbating every night, they wasn't ready.
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So we're saying Elliot isn't in a home/institution after the events of the first season? And Angela and his sister came to visit him there?

Joey BA takes him to restaurant on occasion to help with his therapy. Obviously Ray works there and was trying to exploit him.

I mean it could be a different direction.
 
There's only 3 ways Elliot ends up in some sort of institution/psych ward; he commits himself after the hack and not being able to cope that he has a split personality, hallucinates, and it takes on the appearance of his father or Darlene committed him but that would take the reveal that she has like power of attorney over Elliot or Elliot committed a crime, was found insane, and was committed by the state.

I doubt he committed a crime and all that happened in the w/e amount of time S2 picks up later.

Clearly Darlene ain't do it cuz she wants him doing fsociety **** with her.

The problem with Elliot committing himself is he somehow is still seeing his same old court appointed therapist, Krista. He somehow got his hands on tons of adderall. He isn't seen taking any meds. Nobody else other than the person that represents his mother is seen in the place he's staying at.

Also y'all need to be clear on what the reveal is and what this institution/psych ward/home actually is. If it's a ward then everything we see isn't as is. From the actual environment to the locations. That means clothes and scenery will all change. That also means the whole Ray subplot is a lie unless yall willing to believe an orderly running a dark web illegal black market eBay/Amazon site.

If it's some institution in ny, there's still the problem of other ppl

If it's a "home" we'd need so.e clarification on what kind of home it is. Just a spot he was staying at so he could start over and abstain from a computer? Okay then I guess he is travelling but if it's some spot he can't leave then again we're not seeing the full picture and most of what we see is a lie as far as what it looks like.
 
The dialogue has been way too cute with not saying things or wording things in an intentionally ambiguous way for there not to be something else going on...unless it's a red herring.
 
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Yeah, the institution theory is interesting, but I'm not expecting it or taking it seriously.

I just think it'll be another big twist and mind F for the viewers and they wouldn't do that again.

Great episode. I love White Rose so getting an episode with a lot of him was great. Did not  expect that to come down with the attack, but I should have because he was being way too open and she was clearly about her business and serious. 

Elliott getting beat up and worked, yeah.. that should have been obvious. Ray is a serious man, Elliott should have listened and not looked. Great season so far, but this episode in particular was great because they stopped with the Mr Robot battling for a little.
 
I agree on the FBI/Ministry of Defense meeting. Santiago was trying to finesse respectfully. Whereas home girl inserted herself and brazenly asked.

Then she walked in on his inner chamber. She gave him a certain look when he mentioned his sister. He probably thought the DA would eliminate the FBI envoy.

I just wonder...in reality...how that wouldn't look suspicious.

The next episode teaser looks like stuff is going to happen...in the home/institution.
 
I agree on the FBI/Ministry of Defense meeting. Santiago was trying to finesse respectfully. Whereas home girl inserted herself and brazenly asked.

Then she walked in on his inner chamber. She gave him a certain look when he mentioned his sister. He probably thought the DA would eliminate the FBI envoy.

I just wonder...in reality...how that wouldn't look suspicious.

The next episode teaser looks like stuff is going to happen...in the home/institution.

Yea I'm interested in the fallout of a bunch of US federal agents being killed in China.
 
Yea I'm interested in the fallout of a bunch of US federal agents being killed in China.

His hand reaches across to our borders. He could've done what he did to the other folks like Gideon or old Hacker Phreaker guy in order to not raise suspicion immediately.

And after an attack like that, would they even allow her to fly out?
 
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the only reason I can't let go of the psych ward theory is because the "visitors" always sit in the same chair... and none of them have interacted with his "mom", and the scene always jumps to the person being in the house and seated already 

and why does he always meet people there? 

need answers

also... seems like he's only traveled to a small handful of places the entire season --- home, the restaurant, the basketball court, krista's, ray's.... 
 
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