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Fabian Washington rollin over in his grave right now
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We will never find another Matt Giordano
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Our team has been so bad that we’ve had Aaron Brooks and Daunte Culpepper as QBs 
I’m surprised we didn’t sign washed up McNabb
I’m surprised we didn’t sign washed up McNabb
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Phillip Buchanan not walking thru that door
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Demarcus Van **** isn't walking through that door
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They really didn't allow me to post Van ****?
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I did think that Niko Thorpe and Keith McGill was gonna be the future tho. Boy was I wrong
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New Adjusted Games Lost figures show poor performance by 2017 Raiders not injury related - Silver And Black Pride
Levi DamienMarch 25, 2018 11:59 am
New Adjusted Games Lost figures show poor performance by 2017 Raiders not injury related
Cary Edmondson-USA TODAY Sports
There is no question the Raidersconsiderably mishandled their injured players last season. Based on a new study from Football Outsiders, however, that mishandling shouldn’t be the pointed to as a major factor in their lack of success.
The study brings together what they call Adjusted Games Lost, which in a nutshell quantifies how many games were missed when weighted for starters, quarterbacks, and key non-starters. It also factors in games played in which the players were not fully healthy.
The end resulting figure for the Raiders AGL for 2017 was 44.2, which lands them in the 8 spot for fewest games lost to injury. And of the top nine in fewest AGL, the Raiders were the ONLY team without a winning record, thus removing any possibility of health being a factor in their 6-10 record or losing four straight to end the season.
In fact, there were only three losing teams in the top 14 — the Raiders (6-10), Browns (0-16), and Jets (5-11) — which includes all four teams in the Conference championship games.
Most of the Raiders’ mishandling of injuries seemed to be with regard to their already shaky secondary.
Both rookie top pick Gareon Conleyand starting cornerback David Amerson were kept on the roster for what amounted to the half a season — time that could have been spent on injured reserve.
Then Obi Melifonwu was placed on injured reserve to start the season, despite appearing to have been ready well ahead of time. Then when he did return, they thrust him into a starting cornerback spot against Tom Brady and the Patriotsat the extreme Mexico City elevation. After that he barely saw the field until getting injured again and heading for IR.
While all this was happening, the cornerbacks were severely depleted and yet they opted not to call offseason standout Breon Borders to the active roster allowing him to be signed away by the Bills.
And of course, there was Amari Cooper who they rushed back from an ankle injury when he was clearly not ready, causing him to aggravate the injury on a meaningless play blocking on a run and then putting him back in for two meaningless games to end the season.
Even though their injury handling can’t be looked at as the reason for the Raiders’ failings, it does highlight the real problem — coaching.
First with the decisions to let offensive coordinator Bill Musgrave go in favor of promoting QB coach Todd Downing, then keeping Ken Norton Jr as defensive coordinator, to once again making middle linebacker a complete non-priority, then the complete clusterf@#k handling of the anthem protests in week three in Washington which started off a 4-game losing streak, to finally firing Norton after setting a new NFL record for games to start a seasons without an interception, to another blowout in Kansas City to start another four game slide to end the season.
How they could fall that far after such a magical 2016 season is quite a wonder.
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Levi DamienMarch 25, 2018 11:59 am
New Adjusted Games Lost figures show poor performance by 2017 Raiders not injury related
- By Levi Damien
- on March 25, 2018 11:59 am
Cary Edmondson-USA TODAY Sports
There is no question the Raidersconsiderably mishandled their injured players last season. Based on a new study from Football Outsiders, however, that mishandling shouldn’t be the pointed to as a major factor in their lack of success.
The study brings together what they call Adjusted Games Lost, which in a nutshell quantifies how many games were missed when weighted for starters, quarterbacks, and key non-starters. It also factors in games played in which the players were not fully healthy.
The end resulting figure for the Raiders AGL for 2017 was 44.2, which lands them in the 8 spot for fewest games lost to injury. And of the top nine in fewest AGL, the Raiders were the ONLY team without a winning record, thus removing any possibility of health being a factor in their 6-10 record or losing four straight to end the season.
In fact, there were only three losing teams in the top 14 — the Raiders (6-10), Browns (0-16), and Jets (5-11) — which includes all four teams in the Conference championship games.
Most of the Raiders’ mishandling of injuries seemed to be with regard to their already shaky secondary.
Both rookie top pick Gareon Conleyand starting cornerback David Amerson were kept on the roster for what amounted to the half a season — time that could have been spent on injured reserve.
Then Obi Melifonwu was placed on injured reserve to start the season, despite appearing to have been ready well ahead of time. Then when he did return, they thrust him into a starting cornerback spot against Tom Brady and the Patriotsat the extreme Mexico City elevation. After that he barely saw the field until getting injured again and heading for IR.
While all this was happening, the cornerbacks were severely depleted and yet they opted not to call offseason standout Breon Borders to the active roster allowing him to be signed away by the Bills.
And of course, there was Amari Cooper who they rushed back from an ankle injury when he was clearly not ready, causing him to aggravate the injury on a meaningless play blocking on a run and then putting him back in for two meaningless games to end the season.
Even though their injury handling can’t be looked at as the reason for the Raiders’ failings, it does highlight the real problem — coaching.
First with the decisions to let offensive coordinator Bill Musgrave go in favor of promoting QB coach Todd Downing, then keeping Ken Norton Jr as defensive coordinator, to once again making middle linebacker a complete non-priority, then the complete clusterf@#k handling of the anthem protests in week three in Washington which started off a 4-game losing streak, to finally firing Norton after setting a new NFL record for games to start a seasons without an interception, to another blowout in Kansas City to start another four game slide to end the season.
How they could fall that far after such a magical 2016 season is quite a wonder.
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Can't bring up Stanford Routt without mentioning Chris Johnson
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Gruden basically has final say on the roster.
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This is going to head south quick 
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So Gruden will be making our draft selection of his year. Thank god Gruden was not here during the 2014 draft. He would have drafted Manziel with the fifth pick.
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This is going to head south quick
I'm honestly hesitant about all this too. Gonna give them a chance though, like I always do with this damn team.
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A’s are trying to clear the debt owed on the current coliseum site and straight up own it.
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Hope A's buy the site and kick the Raiders out.
Only semi-kidding.
Only semi-kidding.
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We released Clive.
Bye Clive.
Bye Clive.
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Had high hopes for Clive but he never got it popping.
Maybe it was the ATV incident but idk.
Wish him well.
Maybe it was the ATV incident but idk.
Wish him well.
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