Mass Shooting Thread: Waiting on the next one.

[witnesskb24]

Ban all guns, zero problem with a gun less world

Totally doable

 

[P C H]

Americans are simply far too obsessed with violence. It really is over.

There is literally no reason to have weapons that can cause this much damage within a developed society.

If your stance is that people are the issue, not guns then...you can address the psychological issues of people within society without having weapons that can cause this many fatalities in such a short amount of time. If you're afraid of someone robbing you or harming you, then again it's people being the issue not guns so what are we doing having these kinds of weapons in circulation?

What is the actual point of guns? How many people percentage wise, actually use the gun that they have "for protection purposes?" What do you gain from having a weapon that harmful?

 

[heelsandeers]

I honestly don't have the answer.

i'm just tired of hearing them say oh well the republicans aren't cooperating.

their job is to create solutions with the rupeublicans enough of using them as a copout this is an epidemic of terror and it needs to be addressed and they need to do whatever it takes to create a solution, both parties need to come together

Unfortunately most politicians at a certain level see their job as getting re-elected, raising money, and using their Office to enrich themselves and/or parlay it into a high paying private sector job

At any given time we're held hostage by 60 Senators, not even necessarily from the same party. Senators elected by mostly white, mostly conservative populations

And then there's the SCOTUS, packed with similar ideological lunes, who would strike down any bill attempting to scale back 2A with a quickness

Those who realize the realities of Senate math and the Courts are generally in favor of doing away with the Senate Filibuster (50 votes). Dems are not even able to muster the votes for that

More than anything, Senators do not want to be held accountable for anything, ever. And so they do nothing

 

[sneeker]

Really scary and bad when it’s a mass shooting

Even more terrifying when it’s children.
Really wish these suicidal depressed wierdos would just off themselves before hurting innocent people

that's the sad part. if they are suicidal depressed, they could have done a good job if they targeted scumbag politicians rather than kill innocent civilians that promote such violence.

 

[letsgetit22]

I am not necessarily for a ban on all guns, but I am def for a ban on assault weapons, bullets used in assault weapons and bump stocks. There is no reason for someone to own a gun that can fire hundreds of rounds per minute.
It's truly crazy to see that there are more guns out there than citizens. Even more crazier when you realize that there are millions of people who don't own a gun. So some of these wackos really have hundreds of guns to make themselves feel tough. As one dr said when the pandemic started, our "freedoms" are going to eventually kill us all.

 

[trynafeelmink]

There is no "banning" these weapons man, all it does is make them even more readily available on the black market. there is entirely too much money to be made illegally, your never ridding this country of guns or people with bad intensions.

All your doing is emboldening criminals who already DGAF about the laws to feel safer attacking civilians with no threat of recourse.

I agree that there should be background checks & stricter guidelines, who creates & delivers the Okay tho? who's allowed to make the decisions on who's fit to have a gun or not?

Does nobody see that we complain about discrimination & corruption in EVERY SINGLE FACET OF AMERICAN SOCIETY............. and ya'll want to create another system, that would allow that same dynamic........ to determine who can & can't protect themselves.

 

[QU!K]

Americans are simply far too obsessed with violence. It really is over.

There is literally no reason to have weapons that can cause this much damage within a developed society.

If your stance is that people are the issue, not guns then...you can address the psychological issues of people within society without having weapons that can cause this many fatalities in such a short amount of time. If you're afraid of someone robbing you or harming you, then again it's people being the issue not guns so what are we doing having these kinds of weapons in circulation?

What is the actual point of guns? How many people percentage wise, actually use the gun that they have "for protection purposes?" What do you gain from having a weapon that harmful?

It’s barbaric

 

[QU!K]

There is no "banning" these weapons man, all it does is make them even more readily available on the black market. there is entirely too much money to be made illegally, your never ridding this country of guns or people with bad intensions.

All your doing is emboldening criminals who already DGAF about the laws to feel safer attacking civilians with no threat of recourse.

I agree that there should be background checks & stricter guidelines, who creates & delivers the Okay tho? who's allowed to make the decisions on who's fit to have a gun or not?

Does nobody see that we complain about discrimination & corruption in EVERY SINGLE FACET OF AMERICAN SOCIETY............. and ya'll want to create another system, that would allow that same dynamic........ to determine who can & can't protect themselves.

The funny thing is the black market would have been a greater barrier to entry than what this 18 year old kid did.

He LEGALLY purchased this **** before he was old enough to buy a beer.

Some nerdy *** weirdo not gonna hit up some underground black market dudes for an assault rifle. They would probably just rob his ***.

Think back to when weed was illegal illegal and who had access back then.

 

[P C H]

It’s barbaric

Yeah I mean I obviously don't think we can ban all guns right? It's over in that regard.

I'm simply saying that there's no reason for guns to exist, They do nothing but cause massive harm. In a hypothetical world, we'd immediately take action on banning them at some point. Yes bad people would still get them, yes people still would die at the hands of guns. But that doesn't mean you don't try, and the people that would die at the hands of gun violence would be a lot less and getting a gun would be a hell of a lot harder if they were banned.

 

[P C H]

The funny thing is the black market would have been a greater barrier to entry than what this 18 year old kid did.

He LEGALLY purchased this **** before he was old enough to buy a beer.

Some nerdy *** weirdo not gonna hit up some underground black market dudes for an assault rifle. They would probably just rob his ***.

Think back to when weed was illegal illegal and who had access back then.

Guns being in mass circulation illegally is a very poor reason to not ban guns.

You still have to try. Other than a little testosterone boost, what do people gain from having guns? Protection? From what?

I just never understood why people wanted so badly to have a weapon that can cause that much damage

 

[heelsandeers]

Certain people are issue. Plenty of of responsible gun owners and they probably outnumber the irresponsible ones, but we don't deserve "nice things" with the amount of gun violence that exists in this country. It's an epidemic.

There's a reason other countries are capable of having armed citizens and high gun ownership with virtually no issues. Their citizens aren't trash.

This country is just a perfect storm of f***kery that facilitates gun violence. Blame guns, blame mental health, blame poverty, blame whatever. But all these elements shouldn't be combined so willingly...cause look what happens when you mix them.

This is true. We are a violent, uncivilized, cruel society, and getting more so every day

Many other societies are more compassionate, more civilized, and more humane than ours

 

[IATT]

As I’ve previously said, certain weapons should only be available in movies and video games

and that goes for war too

nothing is going to be done.. but these are the same people who are regulating books in schools, how history can be taught and what sexuality can be discussed

critical race theory, a graduate level course is being used to regulate what of the words of MLK can actually be taught in schools.. but a solution to the deaths of children at preschool can’t be found

 

[QU!K]

Yeah I mean I obviously don't think we can ban all guns right? It's over in that regard.

I'm simply saying that there's no reason for guns to exist, They do nothing but cause massive harm. In a hypothetical world, we'd immediately take action on banning them at some point. Yes bad people would still get them, yes people still would die at the hands of guns. But that doesn't mean you don't try, and the people that would die at the hands of gun violence would be a lot less and getting a gun would be a hell of a lot harder if they were banned.

Let me clarify

The US, considering it is a developed country, not having gun control laws and allowing citizens access to tools designed for mass homicides is ******* barbaric.

No other developed country still has stupid **** like this.

 

[trynafeelmink]

The funny thing is the black market would have been a greater barrier to entry than what this 18 year old kid did.

He LEGALLY purchased this **** before he was old enough to buy a beer.

Some nerdy *** weirdo not gonna hit up some underground black market dudes for an assault rifle. They would probably just rob his ***.

Think back to when weed was illegal illegal and who had access back then.

Bro your thinking about this with a rational brain, We are talking about people who plan these things out for months/years.... there have been reports of other shooters scouting the areas they attacked, doing research, traveling countless hrs etc etc.

These aren't occasions where people wake up one morning & decide to just kill a school. These are cold calculated plans, setting aside a background check isn't going to deter someone from ultimately carrying out their plans

And again we are in a country where clear bias & prejudice exist, Background checks are often left at the discretion of various people.... who's to say that this loser doesn't pass the "inspection" based off bias

 

[nikekid6]

omg.. his fb posts they just mentioned

 

[IATT]

Because of the regulations put in place teachers have spoken of having problems properly addressing the buffalo shooting…

but cant do shh about the guns

 

[P C H]

Bro your thinking about this with a rational brain, We are talking about people who plan these things out for months/years.... there have been reports of other shooters scouting the areas they attacked, doing research, traveling countless hrs etc etc.

These aren't occasions where people wake up one morning & decide to just kill a school. These are cold calculated plans, setting aside a background check isn't going to deter someone from ultimately carrying out their plans

And again we are in a country where clear bias & prejudice exist, Background checks are often left at the discretion of various people.... who's to say that this loser doesn't pass the "inspection" based off bias

Anything helps.

Just because thorough background checks wouldn't 100% work, they should still be implemented. Japan has thorough background checks, their mass shooting rate isn't 0 but it's a hell of a lot closer to 0 than the U.S.'s is.

Not taking action because it wouldn't 100% work is not the wave.

 

[QU!K]

 

[mplsdunk]

they have guns in Switzerland with no mass shootings. Americans could never take their approach to pretty much anything though because they actually agree on things as a country.

 

[IATT]

 

[el presidente]

Idk what that page is or what they post, just sharing something that somebody reposted. (Also not targeting you.)

I’m not saying lock up minorities. I’m asking what is there to do if California already has really strict gun laws, but the streets are as hot as ever. Are the criminals obtaining their guns “legally?” And if caught, the repercussions are minor, why wouldn’t it just continue to happen?

I honestly can't answer your question. I don't know what to do.

I do know that $0 bail was intended to make the legal process in California somewhat more equitable. Are all laws perfect? Of course not. But that meme makes a hypothetical generalization that all felons who get caught with ghost guns automatically get out on $0 bail, without considering their particular situation. A generalization that is meant not to offer a solution, but rile up a political base.

 

[trynafeelmink]

Anything helps.

Just because thorough background checks wouldn't 100% work, they should still be implemented. Japan has thorough background checks, their mass shooting rate isn't 0 but it's a hell of a lot closer to 0 than the U.S.'s is.

Not taking action because it wouldn't 100% work is not the wave.

It's not about not proceeding because it wouldn't work 100%, it's about insuring that these background checks & those that develop them don't allow prejudice & bias to overwhelm the system.... like every other system created in America

As someone who's black your going to have a real difficult time convincing me to trust that those tasked with creating this system will be able to keep a balance.

Also as someone who grew up in the Bronx i've come across A LOT of people who had guns, i would assume 98% of them weren't bought legally. I have no reason to believe that would stop with stricter gun laws.

 

[DCAllAfrican]

same way they do with drugs or preventing weapons at various venues of society

you catch someone with a gun, you take it

metal detector goes off, you aint getting it back and get a ticket with a fine for possession

if you decide it‘s worth the risk of some absurd sentence to have a gun or go certain places with a gun, that’s on you

if cigarettes can be banned from most indoor places because we all get the risk, I don’t see the problem with treating guns in a similar manner

beyond the NRA conference trump is going be speaking at

Got you. Hell, I'm for it.

I just wonder where do we go from here. If the sight of kids being senselessly murdered doesn't move those in the republican party to take action, then what will? How do you strike fear into those who have no moral compass?

Nothing. We will be here 10 years from now having the same convos after each mass shooting.

 

[P C H]

Admittedly I'm radical and unrealistic on the issue, but simply banning a weapon as obviously harmful as guns and implementing automatic 5 years for people who are in possession of a weapon such as a gun would change a lot.

Just ban em.

 

[DLF]

Those were “mozlems” and brown.