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Originally Posted by TruthGetsBusy
so many broken spirits these days...
I'm saying. These dudes are on some *+@# these days.
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Originally Posted by TruthGetsBusy
so many broken spirits these days...
Originally Posted by TruthGetsBusy
so many broken spirits these days...
Originally Posted by DCAllAmerican
Next question OP. What about a Rookie Contract. Newlyweds, start out with a 3-year plan. So if a couple decides to opt-out before the contract expires, they could face a termination fee.
From the jump. You know just to prove they really know what they are getting into. Also there should be a Rookie Symposium forum where local couples go through group sessions/lectures from trained professionals that can help them get through the times.
Also, a once a 3-month session with a marriage counselor that is mandatory for each couple.
So if a couple decides to opt-out before the contract expires, they could face a termination fee.
Originally Posted by DCAllAmerican
Next question OP. What about a Rookie Contract. Newlyweds, start out with a 3-year plan. So if a couple decides to opt-out before the contract expires, they could face a termination fee.
From the jump. You know just to prove they really know what they are getting into. Also there should be a Rookie Symposium forum where local couples go through group sessions/lectures from trained professionals that can help them get through the times.
Also, a once a 3-month session with a marriage counselor that is mandatory for each couple.
So if a couple decides to opt-out before the contract expires, they could face a termination fee.
Agreed it goes both ways, but how many women would actually propose something like this versus men?Originally Posted by Jking0821
A lot of people seem to be looking at this like men treating women like objects. But this goes both ways.Originally Posted by kickstart
Why get married then?
You're in essence treating your spouse as an object that depreciates in value.
OP, explain how you came to this thinking, please.
It would literally be like a more permanent version of dating. This is just an idea. I think we all know this is basically a divorce, and if you don't believe in divorce then you are obviously religious and wouldn't ever want this. But it is interesting to think about if this was the gold standard. Like everyone is already doing it.
What would you do when the contract ends. You love your wife but what if you don't think she loves you back....or she drops the bomb she doesn't want kids....or she just isn't the same person she was and let herself go mentally and physically. You can date some one for 10 years and not know everything about them. Kind of a get out of jail free card for him or her. Would also be cool to add incentives lol but that's a different topic.
Agreed it goes both ways, but how many women would actually propose something like this versus men?Originally Posted by Jking0821
A lot of people seem to be looking at this like men treating women like objects. But this goes both ways.Originally Posted by kickstart
Why get married then?
You're in essence treating your spouse as an object that depreciates in value.
OP, explain how you came to this thinking, please.
It would literally be like a more permanent version of dating. This is just an idea. I think we all know this is basically a divorce, and if you don't believe in divorce then you are obviously religious and wouldn't ever want this. But it is interesting to think about if this was the gold standard. Like everyone is already doing it.
What would you do when the contract ends. You love your wife but what if you don't think she loves you back....or she drops the bomb she doesn't want kids....or she just isn't the same person she was and let herself go mentally and physically. You can date some one for 10 years and not know everything about them. Kind of a get out of jail free card for him or her. Would also be cool to add incentives lol but that's a different topic.
I don't think this would ever work. I just think it is an interesting concept if it was already in place. I agree I don't see a couple ever being like ok lets get married for 7 years and then reevaluate. Prenuptial agreements are hard enough to get together because they are seen as a sign of future division. I believe vows are a religious context. This is taking religion out of marriage basically and making it a contractual agreement between 2 parties.Originally Posted by kickstart
Agreed it goes both ways, but how many women would actually propose something like this versus men?Originally Posted by Jking0821
A lot of people seem to be looking at this like men treating women like objects. But this goes both ways.Originally Posted by kickstart
Why get married then?
You're in essence treating your spouse as an object that depreciates in value.
OP, explain how you came to this thinking, please.
It would literally be like a more permanent version of dating. This is just an idea. I think we all know this is basically a divorce, and if you don't believe in divorce then you are obviously religious and wouldn't ever want this. But it is interesting to think about if this was the gold standard. Like everyone is already doing it.
What would you do when the contract ends. You love your wife but what if you don't think she loves you back....or she drops the bomb she doesn't want kids....or she just isn't the same person she was and let herself go mentally and physically. You can date some one for 10 years and not know everything about them. Kind of a get out of jail free card for him or her. Would also be cool to add incentives lol but that's a different topic.
A more permanent version of dating, so why not just stay at that level? The idea defeats the purpose of marriage and devalues its importance.
This doesn't really hold up too well, seeing as all of this should be thought out BEFORE marriage.In vows, it's for better or worse. Agreed on the not knowing everything bit.
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It honestly sounds like you should just stay single/dating if you have this type of mentality.
I don't think this would ever work. I just think it is an interesting concept if it was already in place. I agree I don't see a couple ever being like ok lets get married for 7 years and then reevaluate. Prenuptial agreements are hard enough to get together because they are seen as a sign of future division. I believe vows are a religious context. This is taking religion out of marriage basically and making it a contractual agreement between 2 parties.Originally Posted by kickstart
Agreed it goes both ways, but how many women would actually propose something like this versus men?Originally Posted by Jking0821
A lot of people seem to be looking at this like men treating women like objects. But this goes both ways.Originally Posted by kickstart
Why get married then?
You're in essence treating your spouse as an object that depreciates in value.
OP, explain how you came to this thinking, please.
It would literally be like a more permanent version of dating. This is just an idea. I think we all know this is basically a divorce, and if you don't believe in divorce then you are obviously religious and wouldn't ever want this. But it is interesting to think about if this was the gold standard. Like everyone is already doing it.
What would you do when the contract ends. You love your wife but what if you don't think she loves you back....or she drops the bomb she doesn't want kids....or she just isn't the same person she was and let herself go mentally and physically. You can date some one for 10 years and not know everything about them. Kind of a get out of jail free card for him or her. Would also be cool to add incentives lol but that's a different topic.
A more permanent version of dating, so why not just stay at that level? The idea defeats the purpose of marriage and devalues its importance.
This doesn't really hold up too well, seeing as all of this should be thought out BEFORE marriage.In vows, it's for better or worse. Agreed on the not knowing everything bit.
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It honestly sounds like you should just stay single/dating if you have this type of mentality.
If you can date someone for that long and not know everything about them then you're going about the process the wrong way. Marriage is a lifelong contract made between two parties. It was meant as a means of joining two families for a lifetime in order to build their lives together. With the current system, we see each other as a stepping stone to something better. Where has it gotten us? Divorces that leave 75% of women in poverty afterwards. Single parent homes with the mother left to support. An education system that leaves the children in a deplorable state when they graduate because neither parent is willing/able to devote the needed time to working with their kids.Originally Posted by Jking0821
A lot of people seem to be looking at this like men treating women like objects. But this goes both ways.Originally Posted by kickstart
Why get married then?
You're in essence treating your spouse as an object that depreciates in value.
OP, explain how you came to this thinking, please.
It would literally be like a more permanent version of dating. This is just an idea. I think we all know this is basically a divorce, and if you don't believe in divorce then you are obviously religious and wouldn't ever want this. But it is interesting to think about if this was the gold standard. Like everyone is already doing it.
What would you do when the contract ends. You love your wife but what if you don't think she loves you back....or she drops the bomb she doesn't want kids....or she just isn't the same person she was and let herself go mentally and physically. You can date some one for 10 years and not know everything about them. Kind of a get out of jail free card for him or her. Would also be cool to add incentives lol but that's a different topic.
If you can date someone for that long and not know everything about them then you're going about the process the wrong way. Marriage is a lifelong contract made between two parties. It was meant as a means of joining two families for a lifetime in order to build their lives together. With the current system, we see each other as a stepping stone to something better. Where has it gotten us? Divorces that leave 75% of women in poverty afterwards. Single parent homes with the mother left to support. An education system that leaves the children in a deplorable state when they graduate because neither parent is willing/able to devote the needed time to working with their kids.Originally Posted by Jking0821
A lot of people seem to be looking at this like men treating women like objects. But this goes both ways.Originally Posted by kickstart
Why get married then?
You're in essence treating your spouse as an object that depreciates in value.
OP, explain how you came to this thinking, please.
It would literally be like a more permanent version of dating. This is just an idea. I think we all know this is basically a divorce, and if you don't believe in divorce then you are obviously religious and wouldn't ever want this. But it is interesting to think about if this was the gold standard. Like everyone is already doing it.
What would you do when the contract ends. You love your wife but what if you don't think she loves you back....or she drops the bomb she doesn't want kids....or she just isn't the same person she was and let herself go mentally and physically. You can date some one for 10 years and not know everything about them. Kind of a get out of jail free card for him or her. Would also be cool to add incentives lol but that's a different topic.
Originally Posted by remix
lol this is a bit too much thinkin..
Originally Posted by remix
lol this is a bit too much thinkin..
Why? Because people want to see less and less people get divorced? That is why people are on some different stuff? Because people think the current system needs to be looked at again to coincide with the change of times? Hmm, interesting.Originally Posted by hella handsome
Originally Posted by TruthGetsBusy
so many broken spirits these days...
I'm saying. These dudes are on some *+@# these days.
Why? Because people want to see less and less people get divorced? That is why people are on some different stuff? Because people think the current system needs to be looked at again to coincide with the change of times? Hmm, interesting.Originally Posted by hella handsome
Originally Posted by TruthGetsBusy
so many broken spirits these days...
I'm saying. These dudes are on some *+@# these days.
Not at all, I stated in the last thread about marriage that marriage isn't for everyone.Originally Posted by DCAllAmerican
Why? Because people want to see less and less people get divorced? That is why people are on some different stuff? Because people think the current system needs to be looked at again to coincide with the change of times? Hmm, interesting.Originally Posted by hella handsome
Originally Posted by TruthGetsBusy
so many broken spirits these days...
I'm saying. These dudes are on some *+@# these days.