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Yet there was no fingerprints or fibers from Steven in the car.
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Interested not invested. Like you. With my posts.
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Correct
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It would be evidence that he was talking to his gf for those times. And that he was at home. (Don't remember if it was cell phone )
I'm not sure if you were asking me or in general. Idk what you mean by car covered up. But Steves blood was in his trailer. Which you would expect from someone with a cut.
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I was thinking, shouldn't have the ex-boyfriend and roommate be suspects or part of the investigation due to deleting voicemail messages?
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Possibly. But then again there was nothing to connect them to her the day she went missing. They had someone who agreed to have been the last person she had contact with. And he called and went to her vm after she was seen at his place. I'm guessing they had a pretty good idea who deleted the msg. I'm not sure what the phone records showed about when those two called her, I'm sure they went to vm too in the following days. I'm not sure there could be any possible motive for brother. And doc doesn't mention that the ex was her ex from 2001.
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Ahh good point.
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Brendan is clearly a virgin who has no interest in sex much less participating in a rape.
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He had a girlfriend though.
He even lost weight because she dumped him and he thought it was because he was fat
Thinking back, a whole lot of stuff he said was pretty funny. You can tell he had the mind of a child. It was like listening to a second grader.
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Wasn't the ex boyfriend was allowed on the property when they executed that 8 day search warrant in the junkyard?
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Just finished it yesterday and any person w/o bias and a sound mind would see that this was a set-up and that everything was shady. They just knew that dude had something to do w/ the girl's disappearance and noone else right, like he's the family member w/ a history of stalking or abuse 
They find all these random shell casings, one fragmented bullet, but no gun (which he would've tried to burn as well since he burned the body right?) lack of concrete DNA evidence, no blood spatters, no chains, ropes, her blood in the trunk of her car. The whole thing is just sad and further proof that we as humans suck.
Brendan shouldn't be in prison, his confession was coerced from the gate. The whole case should have been thrown out on the conflict of interest alone w/ the County Sheriff's dept.
Lady who found the car said that somethin told her to search in that area after 10-15min of looking? Ok. Sgt knew the year of the car, lied about his arrival at the scene.....man let me stop.
They find all these random shell casings, one fragmented bullet, but no gun (which he would've tried to burn as well since he burned the body right?) lack of concrete DNA evidence, no blood spatters, no chains, ropes, her blood in the trunk of her car. The whole thing is just sad and further proof that we as humans suck.
Brendan shouldn't be in prison, his confession was coerced from the gate. The whole case should have been thrown out on the conflict of interest alone w/ the County Sheriff's dept.
Lady who found the car said that somethin told her to search in that area after 10-15min of looking? Ok. Sgt knew the year of the car, lied about his arrival at the scene.....man let me stop.
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Currently in the middle of rewatching this and it just struck me again that Manitokov County was completely let off the hook for the wrongful rape conviction.
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I'm not entirely sure what happened. Nothing adds up with this case. Stevens sweat was on the key but not her dna? The tampered evidence, cop asking if Steven is in custody before a body is even found, the damn sheriff blatantly admitting they could eliminate Steven with ease :x **** just isn't right. Either Steven was completely framed or he killed her and the cops planted evidence to put the nail in the coffin. That's for sure.
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Crazy how he got locked up for this. There was plenty of evidence that pointed to "reasonable doubt". The police reports by Mantiwoc. The extremely long searches. Finding a key in plain sight days into the search. The deleted voicemail. The poorly hidden car in the lot that has a car crusher. The blood vile tampered with. The hilarious placement of Avery's blood on the Rav4. Steve told everyone that he was going to be visited by the magazine company. Finding 11 casings 4 months later. In plain sight! Lenk is a sociopath who blinks a hell of a lot more when he's on the stand. The only witness who had no ties to either party, introducing a different timeline. These are just the problems off the top of my head.
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You win Mac.
He did it or someone in his family did. The family's history is way too shady for this to done by anybody else.
He did it or someone in his family did. The family's history is way too shady for this to done by anybody else.
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http://www.people.com/article/steve...kratz-says-netflix-series-forgot-key-evidence
More info, I'm not sure if it was posted in here yet.
More info, I'm not sure if it was posted in here yet.
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Oh it has. With sources. No one here wants to think anything other than the documentary narrative though.
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I'd put more credence to this if it was from anybody else but Kratz.
He's already proven he's an unethical scumbag
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Yeah that's why I didn't post this. Also many articles are starting to come out about more evidence the doc left out. I don't wanna reference any that don't source though. However, if you go back in the thread, I have given sources for most this info.
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Meh jailhouse snitch isn't much evidence IMO
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I get it, I just didn't know if it was already mentioned. The thing that stood out to me is the fact that he says Theresa complained to her employer about Steven being "creepy", yet they still sent her out to his home when he specifically asked for her. Also, why would she go back if that is how she truly felt? The moment she realized who it was, she would've or at least should've turned around if he was that bad.
I know Kratz is a scumbag and in all honesty it wouldn't matter what he said or what "evidence" they had. It couldn't be trusted at all. The corruption went all the way to the top, so if Lenk and Coulbourn started it the town helped finish it by putting him away. That judge killed everything Steven's attorneys brought up. When Steven said they planted his blood, I was like how? When they showed the tampered evidence, and the needle hole I couldn't believe it. No accountability at all in this town. No explanation as to why a vial of blood had a syringe hole in it.
If a woman was killed in the house/garage via gun shot to the head, and slit throat how is there not one drop of blood anywhere in the house/garage. Makes no sense. For such a brutal murder, the evidence used to convict Steven was too much of a stretch. They making him out to be some kind of mastermind at killing and crime scene clean up. They should have had blood trails all over that place.
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Still haven't read any so called missing evidence that's damning for Steven other than his sweat on the key. Bullet casings in the garage yet none of her dna is on the concrete? Cmon fam.
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