**LA LAKERS THREAD** Sitting on 17! 2023-2024 offseason begins

[sizzlejkd]

 W

 

[BIG LEEMELONE]

Needed this win man. I was lowkey getting pissed with all the other young teams somewhat turning a corner while we kept getting blown tf out

Back to back 0 turnover games from the point god . That was my biggest gripe with him, the dumbass turnovers. But now..

Randle had a bad game right guys? 13 8 4 on 45.5%. And that's a bad game for him, could've done much better

 

[sohi 23]

2 years of actual playing time.

But 3 years in the league.

His rookie year where he had a season ending injury on opening. It's like dude what the heck did you your whole time off? Because his jumper has not improved and he still plays stupid when he drives to the hoop and fumbles the ball.

He probably stayed in bed when he was hurt dude. He broke his leg

Randle's game is maddening but his improvement from year 1 to 2 was decent. He learned how to pass. His rookie year I felt like he passed 20 times all year. This year he's making more of the passes but he's just a second or 2 late on em.

He needs to keep working on his passing, screen setting & 3 point shooting. If he can improve in those areas, why wouldn't you want him on your team?

 

[MVP]

Randle for sure isn't getting paid less than Clarkson even if it's less than the max. Noel will be a great barometer on what he'll be getting. Randle, Deng, and Mosgov will be making over half the cap starting in 2019. That's absurd. If those two weren't here I'd be far more inclined for him to stay.

 

[sohi 23]

He'll prolly get 15-18 million. I feel you, it's tough for team building purposes. Wouldn't have been a problem without the Moz/Deng contacts but oh well.

Still tho, U gunna let him walk for nothing? I'd rather just pay him and stretch Moz or Deng after next year. U can go over the cap line to sign him anyway. We have his bird rights and we shouldn't be afraid to pay taxes.

 

[Lizakers]

Dlo turning a corner? [emoji]128064[/emoji]

Coach playing him more in the 4th. Being agressive on offense.

That Lou trade was great on many levels

 

[kingjaffejo]

Why would Randle come off the bench? Nance has been that for the majority of his career and will be a fraction of the cost.

Why wouldn't he?? Does he think he is on the same stratosphere as Odom or Ginobili??? I think not.
And if he doesn't then ship him out.
But just assuming that he is all of a sudden gonna be commanding 20 Mz and a starting role after you titled him as useless is jumping the gun imo
And again with Larry. I love the dude. But he is the best that he is ever gonna be now. All he can do is refine his skills. He is the definition of injury prone. If you cough too hard on him then he might sprain something
All I am saying is I'd rather pay Randle a lil extra to come off the bench. And trust it wouldn't be for 20 of them thangs lol

 

[CP1708]

Did I just read that 22 year old Randle in his 2nd year playing has peaked?

Jesus Christ.

 

[MVP]

Stretching Moz or Deng will still have a sizable portion of their salary on our books. And it's still going to get us at half the cap. I wouldn't want to let him walk for nothing. Get what you can for him.

I never said he was useless. Noel is pretty much a case study and he hasn't been as good as Randle. Everybody is getting paid in the new CBA don't be delusional especially if they are a lottery pick.

Again why would Randle come off the bench when there's nobody as talented as him at his position on the team. Literally makes no sense. D'Lo is better than Clarkson and a top pick. Ingram is better than Deng and a top pick. Randle is better than Deng or Nance and is a top pick.

 

[kingjaffejo]

Bruh you know ain't nothing changed in here
But let me tell you it is a lot more enjoyable in here. It's like somebody opened up a window

 

[essential1]

I just don't think it's intelligent to trade a guy who while a very raw skill set, has potential to be one of the best guys at his position. Not a superstar, but bring a versatility that not many bigs have. When the alternative is that you have two other guys who can grow but have solid role player grade as their ceiling.

Especially when whatever return you get is not going to be remotely as good for Randle. Trading him because of impending RFA, but primarily to create a salary dump isn't a great idea.

Also Randle's contract means nothing until the year after (2019) he gets his contract because as a RFA his cap hold would be around $5mil.

And that year after Randle's contract, you have Russell & Nance who need to be paid.

Some of you may be discounting how much Nances price is going to get driven up because he's a more reachable target. Randle is a guy most teams think Lakers will keep, so while other teams may look at him, most will avoid him because the Lakers will match. Nance on the other hand, if you make it an uncomfortable number, Lakers will pass.


You don't even need to get Deng or Moz out completely. Just need to find bad deals that are lesser players, but also slightly smaller. I think that's possible, and can be done without sacrificing Russell, Ingram or Randle or Zu

 

[sohi 23]

Randle has a decent all around game and is an above average rebounder (altho he gets a lot of Moses Malone rebounds). Noel is an elite defender (potentially) so thats more valuable than anything Randle does. Randle not gunna get paid as much as Noel. And if he is gunna get paid like Noel that would mean he's improved so maybe he'd be worth it.

Who knows.

 

[MVP]

Randle has a decent all around game and is an above average rebounder (altho he gets a lot of Moses Malone rebounds). Noel is an elite defender (potentially) so thats more valuable than anything Randle does. Randle not gunna get paid as much as Noel. And if he is gunna get paid like Noel that would mean he's improved so maybe he'd be worth it.

Who knows.

That's not how it works. Unless you're a complete bust like Bennett. He's proven to be a starter, that alone is worth a near max deal. He's getting at least 18 million if nothing else than other teams driving the price up. It's worked like that forever.

 

[Maximus Meridius]

Why would Randle come off the bench? Nance has been that for the majority of his career and will be a fraction of the cost.

Why wouldn't he?? Does he think he is on the same stratosphere as Odom or Ginobili??? I think not.
And if he doesn't then ship him out.
But just assuming that he is all of a sudden gonna be commanding 20 Mz and a starting role after you titled him as useless is jumping the gun imo
And again with Larry. I love the dude. But he is the best that he is ever gonna be now. All he can do is refine his skills. He is the definition of injury prone. If you cough too hard on him then he might sprain something
All I am saying is I'd rather pay Randle a lil extra to come off the bench. And trust it wouldn't be for 20 of them thangs lol

What in the ****

 

[pmatic]

 

[pmatic]

D'Lo's per 36 stats before the break: 19.3 PPG, 5.1 RPG, 6.4 APG

D'Lo since the break: 21.9 PPG, 3.1 RPG, 5.1 APG in 33 MPG

 

[sohi 23]

D'Lo's per 36 stats before the break: 19.3 PPG, 5.1 RPG, 6.4 APG

D'Lo since the break: 21.9 PPG, 3.1 RPG, 5.1 APG in 33 MPG

but, but, but he's turned the corner now. He was trash in the first half!

Naw in all seriousness, that's 2 games in a row with 0 turnovers. He's also averaging 6 more minutes a game since Lou left.

Everyone seeing how special Dlo gunna be

 

[Los Angeles]

hope they sign nwaba for the year

 

[essential1]

hope they sign nwaba for the year

Might be someone to do what we did with Sacre in the offseason....

Give him a multi-year deal that's like $700k-1mil each year. Doesn't really impact the salary cap, and if his defense continues to translate, he's a decent guy to have at the end of a rotation.

 

[CP1708]

D'Lo's per 36 stats before the break: 19.3 PPG, 5.1 RPG, 6.4 APG

D'Lo since the break: 21.9 PPG, 3.1 RPG, 5.1 APG in 33 MPG

It's so weird......like, Per 36 almost shows a glimpse, ya know......?

We should hurry up and trade that guy before he reaches his prime.

 

[sohi 23]

Naw Dlo's not gunna be good til 25 we need stars now for next years all star game, we gotta trade him.

CLOWNS.

 

[Lizakers]

Naw Dlo's not gunna be good til 25 we need stars now for next years all star game, we gotta trade him.

CLOWNS.

Why you always trying to start **** with me? I merely said what a reporter said about Jeanie and Magic wanting an All Star in next years game at Staples.

And CP is the one who said we should wait until Dlo is 25, not me. I just apply the same rationale to BI

You're also calling me out on the low with your turn the corner comment.

I still think his lack of speed and athleticism is a huge detriment. And I think he'll be traded if we keep the pick because he'll be eaten alive at SG in the NBA. But yes, he's playing better since the Lou trade and increasing his value

Do I call you a clown when you say Nwaba will be better than JC after 3 games? I just pointed out your hypocrisy. Oh did I take you out of context just now? Exactly.

 

[pmatic]

Tarik Black, Los Angeles Lakers

Black trails only Dwight Howard in offensive rebounding rate, and he pogo-sticks three jumps in the time it takes most galoots to get up and down once.

He'll shove weaklings aside, and he slithers around slow 7-footers.

Black is among the league's angriest dunkers, and he's an explosive finisher on the pick-and-roll if he has a runway. You almost worry he's going to bust his wrist punishing the rim. You also wonder what he might do if L.A. had more shooting and uncluttered the lane for Black's rampages.

As an undersized 6-9 center, Black needs that runway. He's too small to power over and through opposing bigs in tight spaces, and he has zero range to pull them outside.

Black grinds on defense. He can blow up pick-and-rolls 30 feet from the basket, and scamper back to his guy in the paint. He has the wheels to switch onto some perimeter players, and Walton has sometimes assigned him to opposing power forwards -- with Julius Randle or Larry Nance tracking enemy centers. He was a mainstay on L.A.'s bench units that blitzed the league early in the season before injuries dismantled Walton's rotation.

"He's the ultimate team guy," Walton said. "He hangs his hat on playing the right way."

But Black is a smallish center, not a Draymond Green-style switch-everything defender. He can't handle wings, or offer much rim protection as the last line of defense.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/18843801/zach-lowe-2017-luke-walton-all-stars-nba

4. Jordan Clarkson, falling behind

Clarkson is an interesting talent, but to really help the Lakers win -- to be something other than an empty calories pull-up shooter who bleeds points on the other end -- he has to clean up his defense. At just 6-foot-5, he's always going to be undersized against wings. He should be able to hang against point guards, but his technique is a mess.

The best defenders move on their toes, with a coiled control -- constantly in motion, but rarely overextended in any direction. Clarkson just kind of jumps around. He reaches for steals, lunges too late into passing lanes, and slams headlong into flare screens he never sees coming.





He overcommits so badly in falling behind a play that he needs a half-second to shift his momentum and trudge back toward the action. You don't get the luxury of that half-second in the NBA.

D'Angelo Russell hasn't been much better, and the Lakers have to conclude that the Russell-Clarkson duo is unplayable in real games. The Lakers have allowed an unthinkable, flammable, unholy 118.1 points per 100 possessions in the 369 minutes those two have shared the floor -- the eight-worst mark among 1,200-plus duos that have logged at least 250 minutes together, per NBA.com. (Four of the seven pairings below them also come from the Lakers. Drive that tank, baby!)

Clarkson is almost 25. The Lakers need another two-way wing.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/...-like-featuring-thunder-russell-westbrook-nba

 

[sohi 23]

I'm not calling anyone out in particular out g, but if the shoe fits...

There have been a number of people on both sides of the argument. I'm honestly just talking about the anti Dlo movement in the Lakers fanbase as a whole. It's nothing personal. I enjoy talking Lakers with y'all

Do I call you a clown when you say Nwaba will be better than JC after 3 games? I just pointed out your hypocrisy. Oh did I take you out of context just now?

Please show me where I said this
I clearly stated if Nwaba can develop a 3 point shot and space the floor (something that has a low chance of occurring, but it is a possibility), he'll be a better player than JC. How is that outlandish or clownish? U can't see Nwaba's impact defensively???

I still think his lack of speed and athleticism is a huge detriment. And I think he'll be traded if we keep the pick because he'll be eaten alive at SG in the NBA. But yes, he's playing better since the Lou trade and increasing his value

Still not a believer huh

 

[Los Angeles]

sohi what happen to u bruh?