Kanye West Snubbed by Quincy Jones

[ravagebx]

Originally Posted by Tupack Shaker


I personally think that musically other genres $+!# on rap. The reason I listen to rap is for the lyrics wordplay storytelling methaphors etc not so much for the actual music. It really doesn't take much effort to produce a beat in some rap song compared to writing a symphony.

Let's just analyze this nonsense you're spewing here. So according to you music only consists of instrumentation? There's no music in lyrics. Right. Rap is the sincerest form of music to date. And you're singling out rap as if other genres don't pale in comparison versus a symphony when it comes to instrumentation.

 

[ravagebx]

Originally Posted by Tupack Shaker


I personally think that musically other genres $+!# on rap. The reason I listen to rap is for the lyrics wordplay storytelling methaphors etc not so much for the actual music. It really doesn't take much effort to produce a beat in some rap song compared to writing a symphony.

Let's just analyze this nonsense you're spewing here. So according to you music only consists of instrumentation? There's no music in lyrics. Right. Rap is the sincerest form of music to date. And you're singling out rap as if other genres don't pale in comparison versus a symphony when it comes to instrumentation.

 

[nom de guerre]

I wouldn't even be mad at Quincy if he was talking about another artist. But this is Kanye a man who just dropped an album which contains music elements that have not been seen in most modern day hip hop. In fact most of his music is that way breaking down barriers and trying not to conform to the norm. Its obvious Quincy doesn't think hip hop is real music well if he believes that then he shouldn't even comment on Ye in the first place.

 

[nom de guerre]

I wouldn't even be mad at Quincy if he was talking about another artist. But this is Kanye a man who just dropped an album which contains music elements that have not been seen in most modern day hip hop. In fact most of his music is that way breaking down barriers and trying not to conform to the norm. Its obvious Quincy doesn't think hip hop is real music well if he believes that then he shouldn't even comment on Ye in the first place.

 

[scotthallwithapick]

Originally Posted by FlatbushFiyah23

Quincy Jones is a producing legend however I think he is downplaying Kanye's production skills a ton by saying he is just " a rapper". Kanye was known for his accomplishments in production before he ever was a recording artist.

Is Kanye on the level of Quincy Jones talent wise? No he isnt. But is he as demanded as Mr. Jones once was for his production talent? Yes. That was the question that was asked as far as similarity which Jones chose not to answer here. I understand Quicny may not want someone else to be compared to his entire body of work which is fair but he should have gotten his facts straight before criticizing Kanye for just being a rapper and devaluing his accomplishments and impact as a producer.

I honestly won't say that Quincy is just mad here but more of a case of being severely misinformed.

I agree with this

 

[scotthallwithapick]

Originally Posted by FlatbushFiyah23

Quincy Jones is a producing legend however I think he is downplaying Kanye's production skills a ton by saying he is just " a rapper". Kanye was known for his accomplishments in production before he ever was a recording artist.

Is Kanye on the level of Quincy Jones talent wise? No he isnt. But is he as demanded as Mr. Jones once was for his production talent? Yes. That was the question that was asked as far as similarity which Jones chose not to answer here. I understand Quicny may not want someone else to be compared to his entire body of work which is fair but he should have gotten his facts straight before criticizing Kanye for just being a rapper and devaluing his accomplishments and impact as a producer.

I honestly won't say that Quincy is just mad here but more of a case of being severely misinformed.

I agree with this

 

[epidemik the great]

Quincy don't understand that the role of a producer back then and now don't play the same role...

not to mention Ye's only barely 10 years in...i'm interested in knowing where he was 10 after his first published job...

not trying to discredit dude, but by attacking in that way, one is led to believe that one is simply bitter for some reason...

prolly still mad about the Taylor Swift thing...you know how much he loves his white women

 

[epidemik the great]

Quincy don't understand that the role of a producer back then and now don't play the same role...

not to mention Ye's only barely 10 years in...i'm interested in knowing where he was 10 after his first published job...

not trying to discredit dude, but by attacking in that way, one is led to believe that one is simply bitter for some reason...

prolly still mad about the Taylor Swift thing...you know how much he loves his white women

 

[ai for mvp]

I think he felt insulted by the question so he exaggerated in his response by downplaying Kanye's work as an aritist.

 

[ai for mvp]

I think he felt insulted by the question so he exaggerated in his response by downplaying Kanye's work as an aritist.

 

[mrsouthernhospitality]

Originally Posted by cartune

Originally Posted by Capricorn1229

Originally Posted by 0cks

Outside of Thriller and Rashida dude has only produced forgettable trash

.
I agree with Quincy. Two different minsets. Quincy makes the samples Kanye would use.

 

[mrsouthernhospitality]

Originally Posted by cartune

Originally Posted by Capricorn1229

Originally Posted by 0cks

Outside of Thriller and Rashida dude has only produced forgettable trash

.
I agree with Quincy. Two different minsets. Quincy makes the samples Kanye would use.

 

[CUNNiNGH4M]

it is kinda insulting... plus u know this isnt the first time he's heard some ++!@ like that... dude prolly just finally got that ++!@ off his chest... kanye aint @#**+* wit Q

 

[CUNNiNGH4M]

it is kinda insulting... plus u know this isnt the first time he's heard some ++!@ like that... dude prolly just finally got that ++!@ off his chest... kanye aint @#**+* wit Q

 

[Humbled]

Originally Posted by 0cks

Off the Wall was hot garbage trash doo doo. That Bossa nova +%@ he dabbled in was wack too... holler...

Rock With You is trash? Don't Stop Till You Get Enough is trash? Off the Wall is trash? These songs will still be played after you are deceased and blowing in the wind son. Them joints is TIMELESS. Off the Wall is one of the greatest albums of all TIME. Get the hell outta here

Originally Posted by H TOWN HUSTLER

WellKanye uses a LOT of elements inside of his music. Sounds like someoneis bitter that they will be forgotten in a few generations.

No words. Everything you post in Music is null and void from now on. You obviously have no idea what you are talking about. If you think Kanye has more elements in his music than Quincy...

Originally Posted by Joe Cool23


Angry rant ahead:



Quincyis so overratted. He ain't do @#!# on MJ's album but basically saywhether or not he liked the song. If you guys can, look at theindividual song credits for every song from OTW to Bad, I think hisname only appears once if I recall (PYT).

Don't get WRITERS credits confused with PRODUCER CREDITS.

Yall dudes dont understand how hard it is to compose some of that ##$% he did. Quincy WROTE, NOT SAMPLED EVERY BRASS PART, EVERY WOODWIND SECTION, EVERY VIOLIN CELLO VIOLA BASS ETC IN BAD AND THRILLER. even  the synths and drums 

  that ##$% is @@*!+!# incredible. unless you produce, read or write music you have no clue. the dude is a genius. and dude's song sequencing is just

... dude made hits from scratch.

Quincy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kanye.

In every way, shape, and form. If you say otherwise you have NO clue what you're talking about.

 

[Humbled]

Originally Posted by 0cks

Off the Wall was hot garbage trash doo doo. That Bossa nova +%@ he dabbled in was wack too... holler...

Rock With You is trash? Don't Stop Till You Get Enough is trash? Off the Wall is trash? These songs will still be played after you are deceased and blowing in the wind son. Them joints is TIMELESS. Off the Wall is one of the greatest albums of all TIME. Get the hell outta here

Originally Posted by H TOWN HUSTLER

WellKanye uses a LOT of elements inside of his music. Sounds like someoneis bitter that they will be forgotten in a few generations.

No words. Everything you post in Music is null and void from now on. You obviously have no idea what you are talking about. If you think Kanye has more elements in his music than Quincy...

Originally Posted by Joe Cool23


Angry rant ahead:



Quincyis so overratted. He ain't do @#!# on MJ's album but basically saywhether or not he liked the song. If you guys can, look at theindividual song credits for every song from OTW to Bad, I think hisname only appears once if I recall (PYT).

Don't get WRITERS credits confused with PRODUCER CREDITS.

Yall dudes dont understand how hard it is to compose some of that ##$% he did. Quincy WROTE, NOT SAMPLED EVERY BRASS PART, EVERY WOODWIND SECTION, EVERY VIOLIN CELLO VIOLA BASS ETC IN BAD AND THRILLER. even  the synths and drums 

  that ##$% is @@*!+!# incredible. unless you produce, read or write music you have no clue. the dude is a genius. and dude's song sequencing is just

... dude made hits from scratch.

Quincy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kanye.

In every way, shape, and form. If you say otherwise you have NO clue what you're talking about.

 

[thejrob]

Originally Posted by Law3001

Originally Posted by H TOWN HUSTLER

Well Kanye uses a LOT of elements inside of his music. Sounds like someone is bitter that they will be forgotten in a few generations.

WOW

 

[thejrob]

Originally Posted by Law3001

Originally Posted by H TOWN HUSTLER

Well Kanye uses a LOT of elements inside of his music. Sounds like someone is bitter that they will be forgotten in a few generations.

WOW

 

[bijald0331]

Originally Posted by AI for MVP

I think he felt insulted by the question so he exaggerated in his response by downplaying Kanye's work as an aritist.

Yea, he just doesn't want there to be a comparison, even if it was innocent and non-inflammatory. Q was about demand while he took it to be about skill. 

 

[keithdajuiceman]

Originally Posted by Mrsouthernhospitality

Originally Posted by cartune

Originally Posted by Capricorn1229

Originally Posted by 0cks

Outside of Thriller and Rashida dude has only produced forgettable trash

.
I agree with Quincy. Two different minsets. Quincy makes the samples Kanye would use.

 

[keithdajuiceman]

Originally Posted by Mrsouthernhospitality

Originally Posted by cartune

Originally Posted by Capricorn1229

Originally Posted by 0cks

Outside of Thriller and Rashida dude has only produced forgettable trash

.
I agree with Quincy. Two different minsets. Quincy makes the samples Kanye would use.

 

[bijald0331]

Originally Posted by AI for MVP

I think he felt insulted by the question so he exaggerated in his response by downplaying Kanye's work as an aritist.

Yea, he just doesn't want there to be a comparison, even if it was innocent and non-inflammatory. Q was about demand while he took it to be about skill. 

 

[scotthallwithapick]

Originally Posted by rocyaice

you definitely can't put up Kanye's 10 year run against Quincy's 50 to 60 year run. Who knows what impact Kanye will have in the foreseeable future.

 

[scotthallwithapick]

Originally Posted by rocyaice

you definitely can't put up Kanye's 10 year run against Quincy's 50 to 60 year run. Who knows what impact Kanye will have in the foreseeable future.

 

[rocyaice]

Quincy can say that *$! and to anyone who actually knows music can't say a word. Now a Kanye d-rider will cry and scream he's a hater. But he's right. I do think Kanye is a genius in his own right. But Kanye is still getting better. When we're 60 years down the road let's judge 'Ye then. But you definitely can't put up Kanye's 10 year run against Quincy's 50 to 60 year run. Who knows what impact Kanye will have in the foreseeable future.