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If it wasn’t over before, it certainly is now…
Jordan Retro 1 '85 Black/Red Feb 14th 2025
- Thread in 'Jordan Brand' Thread starter Started by jordanhead718212,
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I got my pair from DB already and going to enjoy them along with my 2016 pair. Sad that DB makes a better quality, build and shape of an 85 AJ1 that is CHEAPER than JB. $250 is crazy...
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No matter if stock is 10k, or little bit under or over 10k. Resale is garaunteed to be way over 1k on average. I say that, because we have Travis 1’s highs and lows, that had more than 10k pairs made, and resale was average in between $400 to $1,500 off top, depending on the colorway. We’re talking 10k numbers, and y’all really think that they’re only going to be $1,000 on the secondary market lol. 10k pairs, are basically non existent to try to get for a fair price. Hopefully it’s more than 10k pairs to go around, and the 10k talk is just lies from the brand, to create false hype and demand, for more pairs to come.
But if the 10k number is real, I’m guessing $2,000 to $4,000 will be the average price on these. I say this, because y’all pay on average, $1,000 to $2,000 on Travis 1’s without any hesitation or thought. Of course , yall are going to claim that what I’m saying isn’t true, but 100% true. Everybody I know or seen with Travis 1’s, paid resale and not retail. When a shoe is limited, Nike/Jordan Brand know that y’all are going to pay those mortgage prices on the secondary market for them.
Y’all pay those prices for less desirable retros, and they know yall will do the same for these. Exclusivity rains supreme in shoes and clothing. So all of the Nike/Retros/Jordans are dead comments were humorous while it lasted. It’s smart though, scale back on pairs made, and watch the demand automatically go back up without trying.
Because at this point, no matter if you like it or not, everyone on social media will be talking about how stock is lower on certain releases, and we all will be lined up outside/online, no matter if it’s 10k to 400,000 pairs made.
But if the 10k number is real, I’m guessing $2,000 to $4,000 will be the average price on these. I say this, because y’all pay on average, $1,000 to $2,000 on Travis 1’s without any hesitation or thought. Of course , yall are going to claim that what I’m saying isn’t true, but 100% true. Everybody I know or seen with Travis 1’s, paid resale and not retail. When a shoe is limited, Nike/Jordan Brand know that y’all are going to pay those mortgage prices on the secondary market for them.
Y’all pay those prices for less desirable retros, and they know yall will do the same for these. Exclusivity rains supreme in shoes and clothing. So all of the Nike/Retros/Jordans are dead comments were humorous while it lasted. It’s smart though, scale back on pairs made, and watch the demand automatically go back up without trying.
Because at this point, no matter if you like it or not, everyone on social media will be talking about how stock is lower on certain releases, and we all will be lined up outside/online, no matter if it’s 10k to 400,000 pairs made.
- Feb 23, 2014
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They stopped making shoes from what I’ve recently read.
- Dec 6, 2006
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The suitcase is the only reason that release was so limited. They had to contract out a company just to recreate the suitcase and lost a lot of the profit by paying a middle man.
rbk93
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Kind of annoying, since the OG Lightnings only came in a felt bag and not the suitcase. Shoes would have sold out without that briefcase, IMO
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Pulled the site down, but still operating through IG, last I saw.
- Nov 16, 2014
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That’s a scammer, so be careful.
s dubl
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Then make the limited pairs come with the case, and drop them also without… for the people that don’t care about the case. Seems pretty simple. Limited pairs with case drives up the hype/desirability, and the no case pairs still sell well.
- Feb 23, 2006
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So, what was the method of manufacturing the suitcase for the original run and why couldn't they reuse it for the retro run?
- May 7, 2002
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OG 17 Lows didn’t even come with a suitcase as I recall…Correct me if I’m wrong but that was something only the high top pairs included…
- Feb 23, 2006
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I'm good whether it was lows or mids/highs, just want to know why another company had to be contracted out and why they couldn't go the original route. And they had to utilize a middleman.
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It’s all
to justify the absurd retail price and ~limited~ release to generate hype…The OG lows didn’t included the briefcase but they shoehorned it in here and HAD to upcharge and limit the production? Nike gonna Nike…
- Dec 6, 2006
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Original runs have a budget and designer. Retros don’t. Nike paid a lot of money for the 17s and XX3 models. Probably won’t see those ever as a GR. The issues with the 17s is the suitcase and the fact that the leather has to be “stuffed” in the midsole. The 23s need to be hand spray painted with a car tool.
After the shoe run is over everything used for the model is thrashed and when they retro it decades later they have to redesign everything…..dumb
It was brought up releasing a 17 without the suitcase but they couldn’t agree on a price point without the suitcase.
Unless y’all want some CDP velvet 17s?
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If we make it out of this, you'd have conjured the greatest children's story of all times
- Feb 23, 2006
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Why wouldn't retros have a budget? You would think you have a budget to go by when they decide how many retros they want to produce in a particular run. In the business world everything has a budget to some extent. No need to pay a designer on a retro. So, that can be taken out of the equation along with R&D, as they are not making these protros like Kobe's. They are basically putting an NSW (Nike Sportswear) air bag in them not the original zoom, so corners are being cut. (As far as the 17's)
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- Feb 10, 2014
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these are my customs i got last summer from a different customozer than what's shown from weartesters. Unfortunately, the customizers have vanished from social media, they probably got hit with that hard cease and desist. I was happy to get atleast one project from them @ $140. you can see the cuts are heavily influenced by the 85 retro, and is probably more executed than Jordan brand.
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s dubl
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r&d 
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Retros already have a designated factory and stockpile of material. It’s not considered a budget cause they are using $17 worth of material and making all profit when you buy it for retail.
When you push a signature model you are paying for advertisements, designs, production, etc. That take away from the profit. You have to budget or your going to be in the negative and lose your job.
The new Jordan signature models are getting cheaper and cheaper cause the budget is smaller cause they aren’t selling.
Zion and Luka signatures are getting cheaper budgets cause the profit margins is low.
- Feb 23, 2006
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Appreciate you going depth, many of the folks on here on who claim to have inside info leave you on read when you ask them to expound on info they put out to the masses. What are the thoughts on something that will be a thorn in everyone's side long after this release -- SNKRS. Do they believe that it is fair, is it as botted as everyone says it is, what criteria does it really look for in determining winners, etc.?
The new Jordan signature models are getting cheaper and cheaper cause the budget is smaller cause they aren’t selling.
Cheaper as far as price or materials? The 38's and 39's started at $200 and two models of the 39's are $215.
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