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I just moved to TX from CA, less than a month ago.. and as an avid soapboxer of anything Cali including their strict laws against citizens bearing firearms... but after understanding that most of the folks fighting for the legal right to have a weapon,i am 100 percent sure, that it's the "person not the gun"
People can get guns easily, it takes almost no intelligence to get guns (look at the idiots who cant pass 5th grade but can totally get hands on a firearm)
Personally I think it's awesome (as awesome as a tragic situation can be...) when someone who's taken a course in responsibility with a firearm save lives because they were smart and brave in the right(wrong)situation
Take the surveillance of the game room robbery, where the innocent customer was able to shoot, and deter an entire room of folks from getting injured/robbed
and another recent case among MANY others, where no one is able to defend themselves properly, ends up in mass robbery, and in some cases, an angry innocent tries to "wrestle" with an armed robber, and ends up getting themselves injured or killed...
Gun laws DO need to change...as in start giving smart responsible people guns in places like SF, CA, where the only folks with guns are criminals, who've stolen them from other collectors etc...![]()
By that logic, cars should be banned too since anybody can get a license and DD's kill 40,000 people in the U.S. each year. Far more than guns do. The problem is not the tool. A car can kill or drive someone to a hospital. A knife can be used by a surgeon or a killer. A brick can build a house or smash someone's head in. Does that mean we should pass laws against all these things? Anti-drug laws don't stop those from attaining them that really want them.It just needs to be more difficult to get these weapons....you can order stuff online that no civiilian has any business owning unless you wanna do damage. Its way past controling guns, and the NRA has WAY too much influence for that to ever go down, but they gotta look at how any idiot with no sense of responsiblity can get a gun within a short time. Responsible people who use it for protection aren;t the problem, its the easy access for morons who have bad intentions and don't feel the higher social obligation to be even more aware of their surroundings who are the real issue; and sadly those fools can roll up and get as many weapons as they like so long as they;re not a convicted felon ( and we know they can still get guns too)I hate our society and that is has to be like this![]()
Drugs are illegal. That doesn't stop people from using them.
What makes you think that people who want guns, will stop wanting them just because the government says you shouldn't have them?
A lot of good points in here. I think it should be restricted more. Yes if people really want guns they may get them but just make it harder to obtain them.
Also why can any civilian buy an automatic weapon? What purpose do they serve to an average person? You gonna go hunting with your AK?
But in the end its a cultural problem. We need to change as a society to become more peaceful and less violent in order for anything to have a permanent change
By that logic, cars should be banned too since anybody can get a license and DD's kill 40,000 people in the U.S. each year. Far more than guns do. The problem is not the tool. A car can kill or drive someone to a hospital. A knife can be used by a surgeon or a killer. A brick can build a house or smash someone's head in. Does that mean we should pass laws against all these things? Anti-drug laws don't stop those from attaining them that really want them.
Be nice if some of the people in the theater were packing so that they were able to defend themselves against this maniac, give him a nice surprise when someone is spraying back.
People are going to get guns if they want too. I find it eerie this article was written yesterday before the shooting.
http://gizmodo.com/5927379/the-secret-online-weapons-store-thatll-sell-anyone-anything
Be nice if some of the people in the theater were packing so that they were able to defend themselves against this maniac, give him a nice surprise when someone is spraying back.
WTH?
oh, i wasnt even close to saying that these idiot dumb useless excuse for human life criminals would take classesI agree, but its really devestating and scary to me (person w/o a gun and no desire to have one) that it ultimately may come to everyone being strapped to possibly deter this utterly senseless violence. You can't force these morons with no regard for human life to take classes and understand the responsibility that goes with carrying a firearm that can end a life point blank if used. but sadly we all know there's always gonna be fools with no accountability ruining our communities.
oh, i wasnt even close to saying that these idiot dumb useless excuse for human life criminals would take classes...
I'm saying teach firearm responsibility, to the masses of intelligent and responsible citizens, so that they understand when it's safe to respond to an intense situation, where innocent folks can get hurt....
any of these irresponsible goons, that run around robbing and shooting people should be shot in the head, point blank...I can't stand knowing that every damn day people make a living of striking fear and killing/ruining peoples lives.
I was held up at gunpoint in Oakland, at a damn taco bell drive through order windowthe most anger and hatred ive ever felt toward an individual...stuck a gun at my neck mask on and took any and everything he could.... the fact that folks are bold enough to do things like that is just disgusting...
How do countries like Norway and Japan have such low homicide rates? What are they doing right/differently?
How do countries like Norway and Japan have such low homicide rates? What are they doing right/differently?
now it's a tragedy, now it's so sad to see, an upperclass city havin this happenin.
What I'm curious to see is his mental health and if the guns were obtained legally. I don't know that someone else in the theater firing would have made things better, we'll never know. I admit though this is troubling. Even more so how much coverage it gets compared to the multiple deaths in Chicago this summer.