Israel declares War - Destruction of Gaza / Growing conflict in Middle East

bc i can’t look away from the beheaded babies and starved elderly in gaza. the guilt is too much. keeps me reminded of what’s happening.

also, i need my war analysis and up to date missile salvo and drone info from the resistance.

No other platform has that?

If this guy’s platform isn’t perfect, but has more of what you want, that’s a good enough reason to support it - even if he supports genocide?

 
No other platform has that?

If this guy’s platform isn’t perfect, but has more of what you want, that’s a good enough reason to support it - even if he supports genocide?


they are all the same…some slightly worse than others. if i had a 3rd choice id use it (like a Jill Stein equivalent) but we don’t.

doesn’t matter overall though.

two cheeks of the same ****.

won’t lose sleep if i use x or facebook or etc.

i use x vs others bc i don’t have to hear about my friends children.
 
they are all the same…some slightly worse than others.

doesn’t matter overall.

two cheeks of the same ****.

won’t lose sleep if i use x or facebook or etc.

i use x vs others bc i don’t have to hear about my friends children.

Both sides are the same?

Now where have I heard that before?

That sounds a lot like how you described Democrats and Republicans, except instead of using a third party option like Telegram - where the exact same post you shared above may be found - you decided to keep supporting Elon Musk out of convenience.

Huh, I guess you are okay with hypocrisy after all.


Sleep comfortably.
 
bc i can’t look away from the beheaded babies and starved elderly in gaza. the guilt is too much. keeps me reminded of what’s happening.

also, i need my war analysis and up to date missile salvo and drone info from the resistance.


you ain’t getting this from Joe scarborough:

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Guilt? :rofl:
Please spare us the armchair activist tears.

Evidently Israel didn’t blow up enough babies for your privileged self to get off your *** and try to help them.

Either way, rest assured that Netanyahu & co deeply appreciate your efforts.
 
Both sides are the same?

Now where have I heard that before?

That sounds a lot like how you described Democrats and Republicans, except instead of using a third party option like Telegram - where the exact same post you shared above may be found - you decided to keep supporting Elon Musk out of convenience.

Huh, I guess you are okay with hypocrisy after all.


Sleep comfortably.
tried telegram. keeps freezing. gave up on it.

say what you want about elon but he’s kept tons of accounts open that fb and others shut down.

twitter is the reason why this war has exposed western hypocrisy.
 
tried telegram. keeps freezing. gave up on it.

say what you want about elon but he’s kept tons of accounts open that fb and others shut down.

twitter is the reason why this war has exposed western hypocrisy.
Twitter is not the only platform that’s been hosting citizen journalism. It’s not even the most popular one - especially for people under 40.

Twitter isn’t even among the top 10 social media platforms globally in terms of monthly active users.

You have more options than you seem to think, but for some strange reason Twitter has left you feeling righteous about ignoring your power as a consumer to effect change after months spent echoing posts claiming that electoral politics are pointless.

It might be worth asking why that is.

What is the strategy here?


By any means necessary… but not politics.
By any means necessary… but not consumer boycotts.
By any means necessary… but without leaving home.
By any means necessary… but nothing personally inconvenient.



And here we are, full circle:

Elon musk can impregnate my girl any day.

him and Donald, both genius playboy philanthropists. We need that void filled left by Tony Stark.

also regarding trumps return to baseball tweet, he’ll include blacks in the tweet once they stop having babies by multiple women
 
yawn

genocide is bad

biden and dems did exactly what republicans and trump do/did except they are quieter about it

go ahead and write paragraphs upon paragraphs about twitter etc.

genocide is bad

funding it is bad

i boycott majority of companies that support israel. not all. too difficult for now (apple, amazon, twitter etc). sorry if i’m not perfect. for now twitter allows me news that i wouldn’t have time to otherwise get.

i can care less about any of these billionaires.

maybe if the democrats and their cult followers had focused more on their own policies instead of treating anyone who raises an objection about them as some trump lover - they might have been more competitive in the landslide election.

me: wow kamala’s policy suck
them: omg you wanna let musk impregnant your wife.

wtf

cult behavior

carry on
 
i boycott majority of companies that support israel. not all. too difficult for now (apple, amazon, twitter etc). sorry if i’m not perfect. for now twitter allows me news that i wouldn’t have time to otherwise get.
So, nothing that would cause you personal inconvenience?

That’s what I thought.


Some people are down for the cause. Some people are down for the cosplay.
 
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yawn

genocide is bad

biden and dems did exactly what republicans and trump do/did except they are quieter about it

go ahead and write paragraphs upon paragraphs about twitter etc.

genocide is bad

funding it is bad

i boycott majority of companies that support israel. not all. too difficult for now (apple, amazon, twitter etc). sorry if i’m not perfect. for now twitter allows me news that i wouldn’t have time to otherwise get.

i can care less about any of these billionaires.

maybe if the democrats and their cult followers had focused more on their own policies instead of treating anyone who raises an objection about them as some trump lover - they might have been more competitive in the landslide election.

me: wow kamala’s policy suck
them: omg you wanna let musk impregnant your wife.

wtf

cult behavior

carry on
No one here disagrees that genocide is bad and funding it is bad. At least I would hope not.

The actual disagreement is that it is utterly asinine for someone such as yourself to proclaim they are 'pro-Palestine' while then proceeding to help elect Netanyahu's dream candidate by either not voting at all or wasting it on a third party grifter with a 0% chance of winning anything.

You're literally doing Netanyahu's bidding and then wondering why someone would take issue with that.
 
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yup. i’m a fake


yam israel chai.

Spare me the hyperbole.

Last year, you spent all of three weeks on Twitter catching up on a century of conflict and suddenly acted like you were “in the trenches covered in blood”:

It’s clear in the political thread who is following this atrocity up close and who is just casually checking cnn and msnbc for updates.

Those of us in the trenches are covered in blood and have likely had our entire perspective on how to a) read news and who/what to believe and b) our politicians are all bought and paid for/all the same crap

This is an insult to those who’ve actually lost loved ones and all those directly in harm’s way.

Let’s be real for a moment: Were you in the trenches covered in blood, or were you on the couch covered in crumbs?


Not everyone “Columbus discovered” the Israel/Palestine conflict last year. You’ve been trying to stay informed, you’ve avoided practicing willful obliviousness, and that’s noble - but you’ve lost any sense of humility when discussing this issue and it’s beyond time for you to step back and realize that you’re no better than those you’ve mocked for trying to block the election of someone who’s been espousing dangerous, anti-Muslim policies and attitudes for decades now (falsely claiming that he witnessed Muslim people “celebrating” 9/11 in New Jersey, characterizing Barack Obama as a “secret Muslim,” who “won’t’ say Radical Islamic terror,” orchestrating a Muslim immigration ban, etc. etc.)

Are politics the only way to effect change? Of course not - but politics are not separate from other forms of activism.

I favored an administration that we could protest over one that’s pledged to criminalize protest.
You favor a platform owned by Netanyahu’s bestie because it doesn’t have pictures of your friend’s kids on it.

If you want to make common cause with those who also seek to end genocide, it’s beyond time to stop spitting on everyone who doesn’t engage in toothless, dead-end nihilism that begins and ends with posting on Twitter - as if that’s an “uncompromising” approach.


Sadly, it’s impossible to live in the modern world and not share some degree of complicity in oppression and injustice. Why boycott Apple when Google is responsible for Project Maven? Are we supposed to forsake technology?

This doesn’t absolve us of the responsibility to make the best choices we reasonably can - and we have far more options available to us when it comes to social media than we do with our choice of cell phones.

I just find it ironic that you have such vitriol for people who tried to block the election of Donald Trump while engaging in “lesser of two evils” arguments when justifying your decision to continue supporting Elon Musk.
 

Israelis prepared the ground, Biden tried to thread the needle in an election year as the leader of a party for which the majority of American Arabs and American Jews - used to? - support.

An arms embargo was never happening. We all knew that a year ago. With Democrats still in power, Gaza is returned to Palestinians after Hamas disappears. Now, even Stevie Wonder will tell you that Palestinians are about to lose everything.

And the worst part in all of this is, most of those who decided to "vote their conscience," thousands of miles away from this mess, will go to bed and sleep soundly, without ever recognizing that with a little bit of nuance in their perspective, they could have achieved a more favorable outcome for Palestinians.
 
Are some of ya'll SERIOUSLY getting on DLF DLF because of using X/Twitter since now Elon is in Trump's cabinet and comparing that to him criticizing the Dems and choosing not to vote for them?

What kind of moral absolutism and comparison is this?

At least use of X/Twitter is to support accounts that are actually anti-genocide and bringing in and exposing the truth, even if it is owned by a psycho capitalist looney white nationalist now in Trump's cabinet. What if he may eventually choose to move to another platform eventually?

As a Palestinian, I use X/twitter too because of WORK, and also because it is mainly one of the platforms that has many pro-Palestinian accounts and news about Gaza that have built a following. There's also ENGAGEMENT, and discussions on X by reknown experts and influencers different than other platforms.

But, I have started to look into Telegram, but regardless for now I still have to use X/Twitter for work as they are on there.

Compared to awhole political party that has done nothing, but is brutally murdering, abetting and supporting a genocide in Palestine.

Are ya'll serious right now? As Dems and Liberals, ya'll really need to reflect on yourselves. Don't lecture ANY of us on ethics, because you don't have any moral righteousness to stand on by supporting The Empire by VOTING for them.
 
Bibi fired all members of his cabinet that were in favor of a ceasefire upon the announcement of Trump's victory.

He's 100% on the annexation train, and there's little that can stop him or the extremists in his cabinet.

Like I said, this was set FOR DECADES. This plan was in motion since Trump Plan/Abraham Accords.

I am even beginning to believe the Dems set it up for Trump to win, and the Dems started the genocide, knowing Trump was going to continue it.

Ya'll seem to forget there's corporations and figures in the shadows running #$%^ BEHIND the scenes that are connected to BOTH parties, red and blue, and makes no difference for them who won.
 
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they are all the same…some slightly worse than others. if i had a 3rd choice id use it (like a Jill Stein equivalent) but we don’t.

doesn’t matter overall though.

two cheeks of the same ****.

won’t lose sleep if i use x or facebook or etc.

i use x vs others bc i don’t have to hear about my friends children.

The only alternative I can think of is Tiktok but it's less real-time updates and more opinions. Reddit is trash with pseudo intellectuals who are very opinionated.
 
Twitter is not the only platform that’s been hosting citizen journalism. It’s not even the most popular one - especially for people under 40.

Twitter isn’t even among the top 10 social media platforms globally in terms of monthly active users.

You have more options than you seem to think, but for some strange reason Twitter has left you feeling righteous about ignoring your power as a consumer to effect change after months spent echoing posts claiming that electoral politics are pointless.

It might be worth asking why that is.

What is the strategy here?


By any means necessary… but not politics.
By any means necessary… but not consumer boycotts.
By any means necessary… but without leaving home.
By any means necessary… but nothing personally inconvenient.



And here we are, full circle:

I am putting an effort to search up effective alternatives now. Already disabled my meta accounts so X and Tiktok are the only ones I can depend on but they're two very different platforms and X is the one I see journalists using while Tiktok are more summaries by...well...Tiktokers.

If I do find a better alternative I will update it here and will gladly delete my X account.
 
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