Houston Texans Pre-Season 2014 - NT Bowl 2.5...Battle For Roster Spots

i mean, our cap situation sucks so if another team has a cap casualty why would you think we could afford them?
 
This what our squad looking like so far 

Offense  

QB  
1. Ryan Fitzpatrick 
2. T.J. Yates 
3. Tom Savage 
4. Case Keenum 

RB  
1. Arian Foster 
2. Andre Brown 
3. Alfred Blue 
4. Jonathan Grimes 
5. Dennis Johnson 
6. Toben Opurum 
7. Chad Spann 

FB  
1. Jay Prosch 
2. Brad SMelley 

WR  
1. Andre Johnson 
2. Deandre Hopkins 
3. Keshawn Martin 
4. DeVier Posey 
5. Mike Thomas 
6. Alan Bonner 
7. Andy Cruse 
8. Alec Lemon 
9. Uzoma Nwachukwu 
10. Rico Richardson 
11. Nathan Slaughter 
12. Travis Labhart 
13. Anthony McClung 
14. Lacoltan Bester 

TE  
1. Garrett Graham 
2. C.J. Fiedorowicz 
3. Ryan Griffen 
4. Phillip Supernaw 
5. Zach Potter 
6. Antony Denham 
7. Chris Coyle 
8. Ian Thompson 

LT  
1. Duane Brown 

LG  
1. Xavier Su'a-Filo 
2. Ben Jones 
3. Alex Kupper 

C  
1. Chris Myers 
2. Kevin Forsch 
3. Kjleby Oiland 

RG  
1. Brandon Brooks 
2. Cody White 

RT  
1. Derek Newton 
2. David Quessenberry 
3. Brennan Williams 
4. Bryan Witzman 
5. Chris Martin 
6. Matt Feller 


Defense  

DE  
1. J.J. Watt 
2. Jared Crick 
3. Tim Jamison 
4. Jeoffery Pagan 
5. Keith Browner 
6. Ricardo Mathews 
7. Cory Henry 
8. Stan Grosz 
9. Austin Brown 
10. Justin Ankrah 

NT  
1. Irish Chocolate 
2. Jerrell Powe 
3. Tyrone Ezell 

OLB  
1. JaDEVeon Clowney 
2. Whitney Mercilus 
3. Brooks Reed 
4. Trevardo Williams 
5. Paul Hazel 
6. Chris McAllister 
7. Terrence Lloyd 

ILB  
1. Brian Cushing 
2. Justin Tuggle 
3. Mike Mohamed 
4. Jeff Tarpinian 
5. Ricky Sapp 
6. Max Bullough 
7. Chris Young 

CB  
1. Jonathan Joesph 
2. Kareem Jackson 
3. Brandon Harris 
4. A.J. Bouye 
5. Elbert Mack 
6. Andre Hall 
7. Josh Victorian 
8. Loyce Means 
9. Steven Terrell 
10. Marcus Williams 

S  
1. D.J. Swearinger 
2. Chris Clemons 
3. Kendrick Lewis 
4. Shiloh Keo 
5. Eddie Pleasant 
6. Lonnie Ballentine 
7. Jawanza Sterling 
8. Nick Addison 


Specialist  

P  
1. Shane Lechler 

K  
1. Fat Boy 
2. Chris Boswell 

LS  
1. Jon Weeks

ILB and CB depth 
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I honestly don't blame Andre. With all this rebuilding, guys going elsewhere and new faces coming in, he probably feels like I did when I figured I'd have to stay an extra year in college. Of course I'd love him to stay, as I know he could be the Reggie Wayne to whoever our QB is. But I don't blame him 1 bit. If anybody deserves to go to a contender, it's him. Of course, it would also stink for us to have a fantastic season while Andre goes to a team everybody thought was a contender and finish 4-12, cause that's happened plenty of times.
 
I want the best for Dre. He deserves it. Unfortunately the Texans isn't the team. II'll support him wherever he's at. Whether it's here or somewhere else.
 
Man at this point I want what's best for Dre because that man deserves it. The dude is one of the greatest athletes Houston has ever seen and the Texans wasted his prime with their incompetence.

I don't know if the Texans thought a group of Ryan Fitzpatrick, Tom Savage, Case, and T.J. as potential QBs would please Andre heading into next season. I still don't get why you waste a pick on a dude who probably won't amount to anything but whatever.
If Andre is gone our wide receiving core is going to be abysmal :x but hey another 2-14 season might be upon us and we can draft MM8 8)
Honestly man this team isn't going anywhere until they get a franchise QB, something they've never had.
 
On a side-note, numbers for the new drafted players

Jadeveon Clowney - 90
Xavier Su’a-Filo - 70
CJ Fiedorowicz - 87
Louis Nix - 92
Tom Savage - 3
Jeoffrey Pagan - 97
Alfred Blue - 44
Jay Prosch - 45
Andre "Dre" Hal - 38
Lonnie Ballentine - 39
 
I feel like our WR core may actually get utilized for once since we've cleaned out this entire staff. Maybe plays will get made for guys instead of just Andre or panic. We're all still waiting for that final 53 man roster though, so there's plenty of time to sort stuff out.

No more #8 :smokin
Ballintine with Brandon Browner's # :pimp:
 
From Battle Red Blog:

Like the vast majority of football fans, I have absolutely no idea who most "day three" NFL draft picks are, let alone what to make of them as prospects. There are simply too many names and not enough time to watch them all. Lucky for me, I don’t have to watch them as long as there are college blogs out there who have already done it for three years. Cue Roll 'Bama Roll writer J Tadpole, who was kind enough to clue me in on the newest Texans defensive end, Jeoffrey Pagan.

1. I think I speak for most Texans fans when I say that I've never watched Pagan play before. What is his greatest strength?

Pagan is your classic two-gap immovable object who excels as a roadblock against the run. You basically never see him moved off the football. He has also been revered for his work ethic- was a 180-pound WR coming into his sophomore year of high school then put on 100 pounds to rate as a four-star DE at graduation.

2. What is Pagan's greatest weakness?

While he showed flashes as a pass rusher, he isn't terribly explosive off the ball.

3. What can we expect off the field from Pagan?

During his time at Alabama, you basically heard nothing about Jeoffrey off the field, which is obviously a good thing, He wasn't interviewed often, but came across humble and thoughtful in his responses when he was.

4. Pagan decided to leave after his junior season despite not being seen as a "top-tier" prospect. Can you provide any insight into that decision? Was this a money-making move, or was he feeling threatened by the never-ending stream of five star prospects rolling into Bama these days?

With the rookie wage scale, I think more and more guys will come out early. Reality is that another year wouldn't turn Jeoffrey into an elite pass rusher, which obviously limits his upside in today's NFL. The injury risk probably simply wasn't worth the potential reward. He blew his knee out in high school, which reportedly played into the decision.

5. How would you grade the selection of Jeoffrey Pagan at 177th overall?

It seems that most had him graded in the 5th to 6th round. He should be able to develop into a solid rotation player inside, which would certainly make him a solid value pick. You could do worse than a good-to-very good run stuffer at that spot. I think you will be pleased with him.

Thanks again to J Tadpole for stopping by. If Pagan’s run-stopping, pocket-pushing potential gets realized at the next level any time soon, Texans fans could be in for one hell of a front seven for the next few years. Tom Savage or no Tom Savage, that’s something I’ll show up to watch every week.
 
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I'm pumped about Nix. We haven't had a good DT since Seth Payne lol
 
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Considering the team may play a ton of nickel again this year he may not get the PT we may expect. If he can be a 2 down space eater then I think he can have a solid role on the team.
 
:lol: yea I know that Loyce Means dude only because he's from here and went to U of H


I'm ready for this season to start :pimp: :pimp: :pimp:


**** ion even care I'm feining for pre season right now :x :lol:
 
For all that we think we know about John Idzik, the truth is we really haven’t scratched the surface.

During his year-plus as the Jets’ general manager we’ve been told time and again that he’s hell-bent on building this franchise through the draft and will only spend significant money for players that fit into his plan.

And for the most part, that which we’ve been beaten over the head with has, indeed, been the case.

However, it’s that little bit of mystery wrapped in inconsistency about Idzik that leads a person like myself to think he’s totally capable of making the type of move that will allow for a temporary departure from his master plan to build from the ground up in an effort to make the Jets immediately better.

While the fan base watched in horror as the first few days of free agency came and went with just one significant signing, despite the Jets seemingly needing several more significant signings, by the time all the best players had found their new homes for 2014 and beyond Idzik had still managed to not only sign wide receiver Eric Decker, the consensus top wide receiver on the open market, but also Michael Vick and Chris Johnson, arguably the best available players at their respective positions.

I don’t know about you, but when I look at Idzik’s albeit brief track record I don’t see this conservative shrew determined, come hell or high water, to make sure the Jets are perpetually tens of millions of dollars under the salary cap on a 10-year crusade to respectability. I see an executive who is attempting to be fiscally responsible, while at the same time open to more aggressive ideas.

If he isn’t then why did he sign Chris Johnson, who despite his production is closing in on 30, the graveyard age for NFL running backs?

Because he makes the Jets better now.

So, that said, I’m here to suggest Idzik take another calculated risk and at least contemplate making a move that doesn’t really mess with his long-term goal, and fits both the Jets’ needs and financial parameters. This trade would accelerate the revamping process, allow for recently drafted players to learn from a star and develop at a more humane pace, and instantly transform the Jets from a team supposedly on the rise to one that could be feared.

The target in question is Andre Johnson, who despite his age is still every bit the elite wide receiver he once was.

The Jets would be fools not to at least think about this.

Now before you lose your mind, I do realize that Johnson is 32, an age that would normally scare off any team that isn’t a player away from being a Super Bowl contender. I also know that he’s due in the neighborhood of $31 million over the next three years, a frightening amount of money for teams watching every dollar. He’s also disgruntled, which is usually a giant red flag.

But none of that should apply to Johnson because he’s shown no signs of slowing down. He still produces at an all-world level and, in his own words, is annoyed for what can be construed as the right reason.

He desperately wants to get back into the playoffs.

Does that last part sound familiar?

The Jets have missed the playoffs the last three seasons and despite what you may be brainwashed to believe about rebuilding, there’s really no conclusions to draw from the most recent free agency period to suggest that the Jets have abandoned a win-now mentality. Sure, they botched cornerback. I think if a gun was put to Idzik’s head he’d say he would probably have handled addressing the position differently if given another chance. That wouldn’t necessarily mean throwing insane money at B-level corners in the hope of one suddenly becoming a true lock-down nightmare, but he might have been more aggressive.

As it stands, the Jets now have a bunch of corners that will be armed with broken pool cues during camp under the watchful eyes of one Rex Ryan. I sense that Ryan will find a way to get the most out of whomever he decides to start opposite Dee Milliner and in nickel and dime packages.

But the Jets really have to start taking the pressure off of their defense and get into the swing of how the 21st century NFL truly operates. Decker was the first piece to a puzzle that also included underrated Jeremy Kerley and surprising David Nelson. Throw in behemoth rookie tight end Jace Amaro, unspectacular-but-decent Jeff Cumberland and the pass-catching abilities of Chris Johnson out of the backfield and the Jets as catchers of the football should be much better than last season.

Add Andre Johnson to that mix and the Jets have the potential to be much, much more.

The natural fear here is two-fold. It revolves around age, as in the fact that Andre will be 33 by the start of the season, and cost, meaning a misguided belief that his current team, the Houston Texans, will somehow be in this position of strength to demand the moon and stars from any team that’s interested in talking trade.

Johnson is coming off his fifth career 100-plus reception season. He finished with 109 grabs, which included 20 of at least 20 yards, and 1,407 yards total, the fourth-most of his stellar 11-year career. And he did it catching passes from three different quarterbacks.

If you want to include his stats from 2012, Johnson has 221 catches for 3,005 yards, while playing in all 32 regular season games.

And while it would be wrong to completely rule out a decline eventually settling in, he’s given absolutely no indication that his fall from grace will happen any time soon.

Next, look at the Jets’ passing offense from last season. The biggest knock on the offense, even more so than the fact that Geno Smith was a rookie, was the wide receivers having all kinds of problems getting separation and, when they actually did, not being the greatest route runners.

Johnson has 927 career receptions during what has shaped up to be a Hall of Fame career. There’s never been a route he hasn’t run or a corner this side of perhaps Darrelle Revis he hasn’t been able to outwit. At his current pace, averaging 1,151 yards per season over the next two seasons, Johnson would be within ear shot of Randy Moss, Isaac Bruce and Tony Gonzalez, three of only five players in NFL history to crack 15,000 receiving yards.

Add him to Decker out wide and Kerley in the slot and the concerns about the Jets’ problems getting receivers open should be lessened considerably, perhaps to the point where you’d be shocked if there actually isn’t someone running free on nearly every play.

As for the misconception that Johnson would cost and arm and a leg to acquire, think about what the going rate has been in the past for someone of Johnson’s ilk. On March 14, 2012, just prior to his 28th birthday, Brandon Marshall was shipped from the Miami Dolphins to the Chicago Bears for a pair of third-round picks. If you pro-rate the now-30-year-old Marshall’s career to 32, which Johnson is now, the statistical comparison would be strikingly similar in receptions, yards, yards per catch, 20-plus-yard receptions and touchdowns.

When factoring in the Jets’ need, their salary cap space, the Texans’ apparent rebuilding philosophy, Johnson’s angst about his current situation and the value of draft picks in this league, I believe Idzik could get him for something similar to what the Bears gave up for Marshall. Perhaps the perception of Johnson’s age and the fear of decline could play to the Jets’ advantage as well, though probably not as much as many would think, given the fact that so many people around the NFL know what Johnson still is and can be.

But, still, the asking price shouldn’t be outlandish, given all the factors I’ve presented.

The Jets’ powers that be need at the very least to have a meeting and perhaps make a call to Houston. They’d probably be smart to duct tape offensive coordinator Marty Mornhinweg to a chair, because I can’t imagine a scenario where he wouldn’t jump out of his skin to add a talent like Johnson to his receiving corps.

At this point, as far as Johnson is concerned, age is just a number. If understandably concerned about his big price tag, perhaps the Jets can float the idea of a contract restructure as well. The point is, due diligence here is needed.

The Jets already have arguably the best receiver in the AFC East on their roster. Imagine adding a motivated Andre Johnson?

To me, it’s a no-brainer.

The question is — is Idzik the guy we think he is or someone else entirely?

It’s time to find out.
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"Perhaps the perception of Johnson’s age and the fear of decline could play to the Jets’ advantage as well, though probably not as much as many would think, given the fact that so many people around the NFL know what Johnson still is and can be."


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Jets WRs

Michael Campbell
Eric Decker
Quincy Enunwa
Shaquelle Evans
Jacoby Ford
Clyde Gates
Saalim Hakim
Stephen Hill
Dwight Jones
Jeremy Kerley
David Nelson
Greg Salas
Jalen Saunders

Jets QBs

Tajh Boyd
Matt Simms
Geno Smith
Michael Vick

I think the Jets need Andre more than we don't :lol:
 
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Peep Game said:
I think the Jets need Andre more than we don't :lol:
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Oh yeah :lol: . Decker is arguably the best WR in the division. Pairing him with Andre would do Geno and this gaunt offense wonders. Although, I'm hopeful for a nice backfield of Ivory and CNYJ2K.
 
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Report: Houston Texans wide receiver Andre Johnson unlikely to attend minicamp

The ongoing offseason saga with the Houston Texans and veteran wide receiver Andre Johnson is taking another pivotal turn, and not in favor of the team. The NFL Network’s Ian Rapoport is reporting that the disgruntled offensive star will not attend the team’s mandatory minicamp, which runs from June 17-19 under first-year head coach Bill O’Brien.

In the wake of the Texans finishing 2013 at an abysmal 2-14 and using the No. 1 overall pick in the draft to beef up the defense instead of taking a quarterback, Johnson said it might be time for him to move on after 11 seasons with the team.

In a nutshell, Johnson just doesn’t want to be a part of another rebuilding effort in Houston.

Some might criticize Johnson for feeling that way, however he’s been the face of the franchise for nearly its entire existence. Drafted third overall out of Miami in 2003, he started contributing right away, including almost hitting the 1,000-yard mark in receiving as a rookie. He did accomplish that feat in his second year and has reached the milestone six more times since then.

Still, the fact remains that it’s highly unlikely Johnson will be going anywhere soon. He’s under contract through 2016, and even if the Texans were inclined to trade him, they would take a significant financial hit – an $11.96 million hit, to be exact.
 
Houston Texans Outset: Defensive Starting Predictions for Positions

The offense last year may have been one of the key reasons the Texans did not won more then two games. The defense had their fair share of struggles at times as well. Injuries depleted their key core and the run defense was not as strong as it has been in years past; a change in coaching may re-energize a defense that ranked as one of the best a year before. Wade Philips out, Romeo Crennel in as the new defensive coordinator under Bill O’Brien’s new regime in Houston. The offensive depth chart predictions were written up yesterday, and now its time to cover what new additions fans may see in the Texans hopeful new and improved defense.

Cornerback is a position that will more then likely be locked down by Johnathan Joseph and Kareem Jackson on each side. Behind the duo it is almost completetoss up of who will get time in the nickel and dime packages. A sleeper to keep an eye on is rookie Marcus Williams out of North Dakota State. The kid made nothing but play after play in college, and could be a part of the battle in the unproven depth at corner.

Safety was a position the Texans decided to address quickly in free agency. With D.J. Swearinger showing a lot of promise as a second round pick, Houston needed to find his counterpart for the future. The Ed Reed project did not turn out as hoped, so Houston hopes the signing of Chris Clemons will fill the need. Clemons may lack the ball skills many look for as a safety, but the six year veteran can tackle; and knows how to lay the lumber to receivers when the opportunity presents itself. “Mr. Irrelevant” Lonnie Ballentine does have the tools and length to make this ball club, whether or not he does remains to be seen.

Linebacker positioning may be one of the more intriguing aspects to the Texans defense to follow. With the newly drafted Jadaveon Clowney in the mix; Brooks Reed will be joining Brian Cushing in the middle of the starting core. Packages will obviously change due to the down and distance, Clowney will line up at end for pass rushing situations, and will be used in a variety of blitz packages. Whitney Mercilus will also be a part of the Texans 3-4 base defense. An interesting prospect to keep an eye on is Max Bullough out of Michigan State. With depth players Joe Mays and Darryl Sharpton moving on in free agency, the rookie Bullough has a great opportunity to work his way onto the roster.

Defensive Line until further notice, will be led by none other then the man himself, J.J. Watt. The other two positions along the three man front are a question mark going into camp. Louis Nix can almost certainly be penciled in as a day one starter at nose tackle for Houston. The rookie will have to get through a grueling training camp, and lose some bad weight in order for the coaches to take him seriously. Clowney will be joining the defensive line on pass situations, during first and second down; the Texans will need to figure out who will fill that hole. Jared Crick could seize the opportunity, or possibly sixth round pick Jeoffrey Pagan, could steal the spot his first year as a pro.

With the offensive side of the ball already completed and the defense being wrapped up, make sure to check in on the Guardian Liberty Voice for more Houston coverage. Training camp is not far away and position battles are to be had, make sure to stay tuned.
 
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